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Presidential Election 2024

Bham 99 said:
Every state that Utah went right. Yep that's a wave.
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Now the question is will the left accept the mandate and support Trump’s policies that got him elected? Or will they go the route of 2016 and try to stand in the way of the will of the people? Early remarks make me think they will oppose him at every opportunity, further showing the average American the left doesn’t care about them.
 
superjames1992 said:
Yeah, there were big rightward shifts in some deep blue states, which contributed to Trump winning the popular vote this time around. Quite interesting.
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Which is why when a mandate or landslide is mentioned, this is what people mean. We are a divided nation politically, but there is no discounting it when basically every demographic except white college educated women went more for Trump, and that Trump received a lot more support in deep blue states. When looking at 3 specific states and the vote totals, no it is not a mandate. When looking at the trends across the country and how Trump gained support among almost all demographics and states, it can definitely be considered a mandate. Personally I think it is more indicative of the current economy/inflation but still. People voted more to the Right this election and that can't be argued against nor can you spin it.
 
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Avalanche said:
Now the question is will the left accept the mandate and support Trump’s policies that got him elected? Or will they go the route of 2016 and try to stand in the way of the will of the people? Early remarks make me think they will oppose him at every opportunity, further showing the average American the left doesn’t care about them.
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Is that kind of like how the Republicans worked with Biden on that border policy that they shot down I mean why do you expect the left to suddenly just fall in line with the Republicans when the Republicans never just fell in line with the left after Biden's mandate
 
In a silver lining for the DNC, this might be a good election for them going forward in regards to the Country. If they can re-align and stop catering to the demands of the woke, loud minority in their party, they might just get back to a common sense approach and focus on the 2/3's of the nation that aren't wealthy elites or ideologues with special interests. Get back to what used to make the democratic party a formidable entity. Focus on the working class, merit based systems, and for Heaven's sake, reasonable immigration with a secure border. I say if the DNC can move in this direction, it's better for them, and for all of us.
 
SASQUATCH said:
In a silver lining for the DNC, this might be a good election for them going forward in regards to the Country. If they can re-align and stop catering to the demands of the woke, loud minority in their party, they might just get back to a common sense approach and focus on the 2/3's of the nation that aren't wealthy elites or ideologues with special interests. Get back to what used to make the democratic party a formidable entity. Focus on the working class, merit based systems, and for Heaven's sake, reasonable immigration with a secure border. I say if the DNC can move in this direction, it's better for them, and for all of us.
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Woke equals fear for the right how many times have you interacted with a transgender how many times have you been corrected on using the wrong pronoun how many times have you actually seen or heard of something like that happening with someone you know it happens on such a rare occasion but yet you would think that people have this happening everyday all around them and it just doesn't happen it's just a fear that you've been sold on
 
Shaggy said:
Is that kind of like how the Republicans worked with Biden on that border policy that they shot down I mean why do you expect the left to suddenly just fall in line with the Republicans when the Republicans never just fell in line with the left after Biden's mandate
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You all keep bringing up that border bill, yet none of you (including Kamala Harris herself) seem to have a good answer to this simple question. But I'll try asking one more time:

Since the Democrats controlled all 3 branches of the government at the time, why do they keep blaming Republicans for it not passing?
 
Shaggy said:
Woke equals fear for the right how many times have you interacted with a transgender how many times have you been corrected on using the wrong pronoun how many times have you actually seen or heard of something like that happening with someone you know it happens on such a rare occasion but yet you would think that people have this happening everyday all around them and it just doesn't happen it's just a fear that you've been sold on
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The only fear I see and hear is coming from people like you.
 
Shaggy said:
Woke equals fear for the right how many times have you interacted with a transgender how many times have you been corrected on using the wrong pronoun how many times have you actually seen or heard of something like that happening with someone you know it happens on such a rare occasion but yet you would think that people have this happening everyday all around them and it just doesn't happen it's just a fear that you've been sold on
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I have a woke daughter, so, every day.
 
Shaggy said:
Is that kind of like how the Republicans worked with Biden on that border policy that they shot down I mean why do you expect the left to suddenly just fall in line with the Republicans when the Republicans never just fell in line with the left after Biden's mandate
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That was a bad piece of pork filled legislation
 
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Avalanche said:
That was a bad piece of pork filled legislations
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Shaggy knows this. But the walls have closed in, and all of the main left wing narratives have been so utterly blown apart by common sense people who have finally decided to stand up and say "enough" that it's pretty much all he has left...scraping the bottom of the barrel, as it were.
 
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