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Shaggy said:
Theres 42k subscribers to that channel. Assume 30k are like minded conservatives. That's half the total he squeaked a win out by. These are the voters that trump needs to worry about.
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Honestly, I see the same people voting for Trump that voted last time. I really don’t see a way for a Biden victory. He doesn’t have that “IT” factor. He inspires a meh factor. Democrats won’t come out in droves to elect him I’m sad to say.
 
Shaggy said:
Theres 42k subscribers to that channel. Assume 30k are like minded conservatives. That's half the total he squeaked a win out by. These are the voters that trump needs to worry about.
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Not the least bit worried. Seriously......Too much at stake to let emotions get in the way of common sense. I have no doubt your legions will hold true to your pledge but there are a lot of people that have to pay bills, put kids through college and put money in to a retirement fund that dont have time to wait for Mr. Perfect to show up and give everyone the warm fuzzies. They might not like Trump the person but they love Trump the fighter. Thats why you see lakes churned up with thousands of boats flying Trump flags. You see that with McCain? Romney?
 
tramadoc said:
Honestly, I see the same people voting for Trump that voted last time. I really don’t see a way for a Biden victory. He doesn’t have that “IT” factor. He inspires a meh factor. Democrats won’t come out in droves to elect him I’m sad to say.
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They screwed up when they went from left to insanity. What we see now is frightening. Will it change your vote, dont know but moderates arent interested in defunding police departments. Bidens problem is he doesnt have the mental strength to make the smart decisions and he is likely to make his first dumb decision with his VP pick
 
Rain Cold said:
Over/Under on Maxwell kicking the bucket. Line is September 5.

Bonus if you guess the cause. Possibilities:

Suicide by hanging

Suicide by shooting herself in the back while escaping

Covid-19

"Natural causes"

Car crash while being transported

Spontaneous combustion

Her head mysteriously falls off
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When is her court appearance? Then I will give My prediction
 
Sandbar said:
Not the least bit worried. Seriously......Too much at stake to let emotions get in the way of common sense. I have no doubt your legions will hold true to your pledge but there are a lot of people that have to pay bills, put kids through college and put money in to a retirement fund that dont have time to wait for Mr. Perfect to show up and give everyone the warm fuzzies. They might not like Trump the person but they love Trump the fighter. Thats why you see lakes churned up with thousands of boats flying Trump flags. You see that with McCain? Romney?
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It's a cult following plain and simple. Sure there are members of trumps base that are fired up. The problem is the America that will be left in his wake will not be one they like in the long run.

If you think my opposition to trump is based solely on his personality then you havent been paying attention to my post.
 
I think there is a strong possibility if Biden wins. Then he could very well be the first president to not debate or really have to speak much. Obviously Trump is making it easy for him but the demands the Biden team asked for from Trump today is setting that stage. If you don’t watch Tucker Carlson then you really should watch his episode tonight. Forget he’s on Fox. Put away the bias for that and hear what he has to say. What is happening is not just an attack on our beliefs but also on our freedoms of speech. This systemic racism is just a front to take away law and order and free speech. This is not about Biden or Trump. They are pawns and the people around them that we need to look at. It’s not the majority of civilians. It’s the younger generation that will follow anyone promising pipe dreams. It’s also the majority of social media and media and filthy rich politicians and billionaires. True Democrats and Republicans the center ones that believe it truth, free speech, capitalism and justice and law need to come together. More and more media gurus are asking for censorship. Such as FB has over 1200 corporations asking to block any conservatives speech. No one on either side should be in favor of this. Another social media today said they want free speech censored. Twitter already censors. Biden team today said they have had requests to stop Tucker Carlson. Asking him to not speak about Omar and Duckworth. We as Americans need to come together and educate the younger generation that freedom is what everyone deserves. I don’t care who you vote for Biden or Trump. What should concern us all is seeing our foundation of America stripped. Yes statues should be in museums but everyone of us have seen ridiculous requests. We have and are seeing terrible atrocities committed. We need to figure out a way to stop this destruction from within America.
 
Matthew70 said:
I think there is a strong possibility if Biden wins. Then he could very well be the first president to not debate or really have to speak much. Obviously Trump is making it easy for him but the demands the Biden team asked for from Trump today is setting that stage. If you don’t watch Tucker Carlson then you really should watch his episode tonight. Forget he’s on Fox. Put away the bias for that and hear what he has to say. What is happening is not just an attack on our beliefs but also on our freedoms of speech. This systemic racism is just a front to take away law and order and free speech. This is not about Biden or Trump. They are pawns and the people around them that we need to look at. It’s not the majority of civilians. It’s the younger generation that will follow anyone promising pipe dreams. It’s also the majority of social media and media and filthy rich politicians and billionaires. True Democrats and Republicans the center ones that believe it truth, free speech, capitalism and justice and law need to come together. More and more media gurus are asking for censorship. Such as FB has over 1200 corporations asking to block any conservatives speech. No one on either side should be in favor of this. Another social media today said they want free speech censored. Twitter already censors. Biden team today said they have had requests to stop Tucker Carlson. Asking him to not speak about Omar and Duckworth. We as Americans need to come together and educate the younger generation that freedom is what everyone deserves. I don’t care who you vote for Biden or Trump. What should concern us all is seeing our foundation of America stripped. Yes statues should be in museums but everyone of us have seen ridiculous requests. We have and are seeing terrible atrocities committed. We need to figure out a way to stop this destruction from within America.
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Sounds great. Are you gonna not vote for biden and trump and go with a 3rd party because that's what we need. That's why I did that in 2016. The division in this country is largely our fault. It starts with us saying enough. I've said enough when are you gonna join me?
 
Shaggy said:
It's a cult following plain and simple. Sure there are members of trumps base that are fired up. The problem is the America that will be left in his wake will not be one they like in the long run.

If you think my opposition to trump is based solely on his personality then you havent been paying attention to my post.
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Oh its no cult friend. These are normal hard working people that havent been inspired by any presidential candidate in a long time. Im not sure what kind of long term damage you think will be left in his wake but I assure you any list of things you come up with is just exaggerated.

And yes I realize your Trump hatred goes far beyond his personality. Ive seen close to 10 months of non stop opposition from you and your brother. Ive actually never seen anybody put that much effort into disdain for something or someone in my life. Its bound to be exhausting
 
Sandbar said:
Oh its no cult friend. These are normal hard working people that havent been inspired by any presidential candidate in a long time. Im not sure what kind of long term damage you think will be left in his wake but I assure you any list of things you come up with is just exaggerated.

And yes I realize your Trump hatred goes far beyond his personality. Ive seen close to 10 months of non stop opposition from you and your brother. Ive actually never seen anybody put that much effort into disdain for something or someone in my life. Its bound to be exhausting
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Why I said some on here are going to have a stroke before November. @Jessy I can’t image what he will do if Trump loses which I believe he will. I will lol and say well 4 years see if I can make best of it.
 
Sandbar said:
Oh its no cult friend. These are normal hard working people that havent been inspired by any presidential candidate in a long time. Im not sure what kind of long term damage you think will be left in his wake but I assure you any list of things you come up with is just exaggerated.

And yes I realize your Trump hatred goes far beyond his personality. Ive seen close to 10 months of non stop opposition from you and your brother. Ive actually never seen anybody put that much effort into disdain for something or someone in my life. Its bound to be exhausting
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If you think tearing down the checks and balances is an over exaggeration then theres not much left to discuss. Firing IGs, firing a prosecutor investigating your friends, going to the supreme court to argue that a president deserves full immunity from even being investigated for anything.......yeah none of those matter.......well atleast until a democrat wins and then suddenly when they are playing by the rules yall are cheering for it will become the end of America.
 
Shaggy said:
Sounds great. Are you gonna not vote for biden and trump and go with a 3rd party because that's what we need. That's why I did that in 2016. The division in this country is largely our fault. It starts with us saying enough. I've said enough when are you gonna join me?
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Honestly I don’t know Jessy. My state it won’t matter because Trump is gonna win it. If it was a solid chance 3rd party I would definitely. I look at voting for this election like throwing money to a sure loss and that is Biden. Not because of him but his vp. If he picks a solid voice then I possibly would vote for him. I know he will pick a true Marxist believer. Harris will turn America into a socialist nation. So reason I pick Trump is because of vp. Pence is much better choice.
 
Shaggy said:
If you think tearing down the checks and balances is an over exaggeration then theres not much left to discuss. Firing IGs, firing a prosecutor investigating your friends, going to the supreme court to argue that a president deserves full immunity from even being investigated for anything.......yeah none of those matter.......well atleast until a democrat wins and then suddenly when they are playing by the rules yall are cheering for it will become the end of America.
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Shaggy not one president has played by rules since Reagan. We all can guarantee that Biden will do the same and then his vp will. Democrat or Republican they both cheat and lie.
 
Matthew70 said:
Honestly I don’t know Jessy. My state it won’t matter because Trump is gonna win it. If it was a solid chance 3rd party I would definitely. I look at voting for this election like throwing money to a sure loss and that is Biden. Not because of him but his vp. If he picks a solid voice then I possibly would vote for him. I know he will pick a true Marxist believer. Harris will turn America into a socialist nation. So reason I pick Trump is because of vp. Pence is much better choice.
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I’ll just have to add that you don’t have to like Trump. To realize 4 more years of the same thing is better then a far left socialist ran nation. Biden will sign any bill Dems pass I guarantee it.


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Sandbar said:
Biden has no chance at winning this election. None, zero, nada
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Probability says hi. He has a chance and personally I think him vs Trump is about equal. Trump has the possibility of having 2016 pulled again, but Biden could just as easily take those surprise states and another from what Trump won in 2016. What's saying Penn will be red? Ohio? Michigan? Even if Trump gets Florida again, which is really 50/50, he's fighting an uphill battle if people despise him more in those states than like him.
 
Matthew70 said:
Honestly I don’t know Jessy. My state it won’t matter because Trump is gonna win it. If it was a solid chance 3rd party I would definitely. I look at voting for this election like throwing money to a sure loss and that is Biden. Not because of him but his vp. If he picks a solid voice then I possibly would vote for him. I know he will pick a true Marxist believer. Harris will turn America into a socialist nation. So reason I pick Trump is because of vp. Pence is much better choice.
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Really bidens best choice would be Demings. She is from a swing state and has a history in police and could be used to help reform policing without going off the deep end of defunding.
 
Matthew70 said:
Why I said some on here are going to have a stroke before November. @Jessy I can’t image what he will do if Trump loses which I believe he will. I will lol and say well 4 years see if I can make best of it.
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Well if Trump loses because I voted. I have every right to oppose everything and speak out against what I don’t like. I’ll probably spend 4yrs at least being very vocal because i refuse to be silenced


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Shaggy said:
If you think tearing down the checks and balances is an over exaggeration then theres not much left to discuss. Firing IGs, firing a prosecutor investigating your friends, going to the supreme court to argue that a president deserves full immunity from even being investigated for anything.......yeah none of those matter.......well atleast until a democrat wins and then suddenly when they are playing by the rules yall are cheering for it will become the end of America.
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When I see you commit 10 months to the corruption involved in spying on a duly elected president, then you and I can talk about "investigations". This was without a doubt the largest attempt to take down a president in our nations history and its was of ZERO INTEREST to you so you really have nothing of substance to say to me regarding checks and balances
 
Shaggy said:
Really bidens best choice would be Demings. She is from a swing state and has a history in police and could be used to help reform policing without going off the deep end of defunding.
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Possibly but I am against defunding. Cops make very little as it is. Training is where money should go.
 
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