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LithiaWx said:
there are more white people. Blacks are killed at a much higher rate than whites per capita.
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This....https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/

In the U.S., African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.

That’s according to a new study conducted by Frank Edwards, of Rutgers University’s School of Criminal Justice, Hedwig Lee, of Washington University in St. Louis’s Department of Sociology, and Michael Esposito, of the University of Michigan’s Institute for Social Research. The researchers used verified data on police killings from 2013 to 2018 compiled by the website Fatal Encounters, created by Nevada-based journalist D. Brian Burghart. Under their models, they found that roughly 1-in-1,000 black boys and men will be killed by police in their lifetime. For white boys and men, the rate is 39 out of 100,000.
 
Downeastnc said:
This....https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/

In the U.S., African Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white people. For black women, the rate is 1.4 times more likely.

That’s according to a new study conducted by Frank Edwards, of Rutgers University’s School of Criminal Justice, Hedwig Lee, of Washington University in St. Louis’s Department of Sociology, and Michael Esposito, of the University of Michigan’s Institute for Social Research. The researchers used verified data on police killings from 2013 to 2018 compiled by the website Fatal Encounters, created by Nevada-based journalist D. Brian Burghart. Under their models, they found that roughly 1-in-1,000 black boys and men will be killed by police in their lifetime. For white boys and men, the rate is 39 out of 100,000.
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Yeah, this is a good point to make when folks mention the fact that white folks are killed more in absolute numbers. They’re ignoring that white folks far outnumber black folks.

But another thing that should be analyzed to make it more complete is the number of black vs white killed PER ENCOUNTER with police. Black folks have many more encounters per capita with police vs white folks, largely as a result of their average economic situation being poorer. I don’t have the actual stats to compare for killings per encounter. Does anyone here have that data?

What I’d really like to see is the % of poor black folks killed vs % of poor white folks killed of those who encounter the cops.
 
GaWx said:
Yeah, this is a good point to make when folks mention the fact that white folks are killed more in absolute numbers. They’re ignoring that white folks far outnumber black folks.

But another thing that should be analyzed to make it more complete is the number of black vs white killed PER ENCOUNTER with police. Black folks have many more encounters per capita with police vs white folks, largely as a result of their average economic situation being poorer. I don’t have the actual stats to compare for killings per encounter. Does anyone here have that data?

What I’d really like to see is the % of poor black folks killed vs % of poor white folks killed of those who encounter the cops.
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Excellent points here that you don’t see brought out many, well any, place.
 
GaWx said:
Yeah, this is a good point to make when folks mention the fact that white folks are killed more in absolute numbers. They’re ignoring that white folks far outnumber black folks.

But another thing that should be analyzed to make it more complete is the number of black vs white killed PER ENCOUNTER with police. Black folks have many more encounters per capita with police vs white folks, largely as a result of their average economic situation being poorer. I don’t have the actual stats to compare for killings per encounter. Does anyone here have that data?

What I’d really like to see is the % of poor black folks killed vs % of poor white folks killed of those who encounter the cops.
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Id also bet the police encounter percentage is heavily skewed toward a few certain cities where violence is prevalent. The small town where I live is higher percentage black(70/30) and you never hear of violence.
 
weatherfide said:
Well, nice trap you set there, fraz... look a little closer. The cops have guns available to them when they need them in all of those locations.
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No trap, don't be so paranoid. Would expect anyone replying to know that. My question is how/why can they make that work? Are they better than us in these areas?
 
GaWx said:
Yeah, this is a good point to make when folks mention the fact that white folks are killed more in absolute numbers. They’re ignoring that white folks far outnumber black folks.

But another thing that should be analyzed to make it more complete is the number of black vs white killed PER ENCOUNTER with police. Black folks have many more encounters per capita with police vs white folks, largely as a result of their average economic situation being poorer. I don’t have the actual stats to compare for killings per encounter. Does anyone here have that data?

What I’d really like to see is the % of poor black folks killed vs % of poor white folks killed of those who encounter the cops.
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Here ya go....https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp15.pdf

Wont work as a link got to copy and paste

One interesting data point is that police initiated contacts are equal for whites and blacks at 11% even though whites greatly out number blacks......this suggest racial profiling is a thing....
 
weatherfide said:
What’s your take on why they don’t need to carry guns? Maybe they use more takers?
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I'm not sure how that works but will look into it. I was really asking the question. BTW not a proponent and avid collector here but open to better ways of doing things if they work.
 
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