And they have to pick a city with enough road infrastructure and hotel rooms.
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Maybe he will do it in a basement!???
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As Covid-19 cases rise in 17 states, Americans still divided on whether masks should be mandated | CNN
Health officials estimate 40% of coronavirus transmissions happen before symptoms appear. And without proper precautions, summer gatherings can turn into breeding grounds for coronavirus.
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CNN is a totally unreliable source. I won't even consider reading their garbage.Ah CNN and panic porn. Let’s see cases going up yes. How about hospitalizations and deaths sky rocketing. Yes some are dying from virus but what about the rising suicides and increasing drug use. Oh that’s right those deaths and facts don’t fit the liberal agenda.As Covid-19 cases rise in 17 states, Americans still divided on whether masks should be mandated | CNN
Health officials estimate 40% of coronavirus transmissions happen before symptoms appear. And without proper precautions, summer gatherings can turn into breeding grounds for coronavirus.www.cnn.com
Yupp, bye Felicia
Case count is really unreliable unless it just absolutely spikes because we don’t if it has antibody positives in it, and we don’t know when the test was taken and how many cases are being found By increased testing.
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What Trump is doing to the Klausutis family is absolutely despicable and is evidence of an unregenerate spirit—though this is obviously not the first such evidence.
It baffles me that so many evangelicals can keep fawning over him and making excuses for him. There is no excuse for this type of behavior from someone who claims to follow Christ.
It baffles me that so many evangelicals can keep fawning over him and making excuses for him. There is no excuse for this type of behavior from someone who claims to follow Christ.
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I don’t fawn over him or any politician. Why do people fawn over Biden? Both claim to be Christians. I’m still voting for Trump over Biden. It’s either choose capitalism or socialism. Easy choice for me. I don’t judge because someone says they’re a Christian.
Downeastnc
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Trump is just trash, the amount of hypocrisy that it takes to support him while bad mouthing others is ASTOUNDING....your astute observation of his behavior and how it conflicts with the Christian ideology is a perfect example, there are posters on this thread that literally think Trump was sent by god to lead this nation.....the fact that a god decided Trump was the right person out of all the potential truly qualified and decent people to choose from to lead the US is just further proof to me there is no god lol....Trump is no more a Christian than I am, and even worse I am probably much more familiar and well versed with the bible and Christianity in general than Trump because of my upbringing. The man is CLUELESS about the bible etc.....he has hoodwinked the religious right....
I whole heartedly agree. As a former deacon and ss teacher, I can not fathom any Christian holding him up as a leader and an example. There are no excuses. It's a pretty sad testament of current reality in some segments of Christianity today.
Downeastnc
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Twitter was asked to remove them by the late women's former husband but Twitter so far has not....Trump should apologize and back the hell off.....but he is more worried about attacking Joe Scarborough than doing the right thing because at the end of the day Trump DNGAF about people other than himself. I suspect he will attack this man at some point for daring to go against him publicly cause Trump cant handle anyone pushing back.
“I’m asking you to intervene in this instance because the President of the United States has taken something that does not belong him — the memory of my dead wife — and perverted it for perceived political gain,” Klausutis said in the letter, dated May 21. “My wife deserves better.”
Joe Scarborough put it perfectly and summed up Trump, Trump is a cruel person who again care not one bit about hurting others its all about him attacking anyone that does not pander to his perceived greatness.....
“It’s unspeakably cruel, whether it’s the president or whether it’s people following the president. These are not public figures, nor have they ever been public figures. Every time they spread these lies, they’re hurting the family.”
snowlover91
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All of the Christians I know, including myself, support him not because of his claim to religion or because they like him but because of his policies. Things like appointing conservative judicial nominees, the Supreme Court (where many of our freedoms and rights end up in different cases), lower taxes, the promise of a sound economy, protecting our borders, strong military, freedom of religion, etc. When the two choices on the ballot are Trump vs Biden, or Trump vs Hillary as they were in 2016 then it really comes down to a matter of policy. Hillary would have been for abortion, putting in liberal judicial nominees, for open borders, etc things that the people I know and I would strongly disagree with. Therefore the alternate option is Trump and he has done fine imo with protecting our borders, choosing good nominees for the Supreme Court and other judicial positions, and also the economy was doing fine prior to the virus.
Downeastnc
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I wonder where Jesus would have come down on open borders.....and keeping kids in cages......
As for the rest of it, I get it, I understand why conservatives support Trump.....but some of heck maybe even many evangelicals act like Trump is on a mission from god to stop the evil liberal socialist from taking over the country....
ANY conservative running in 2016 would have done lower taxes ( and maybe actually focused on the middle class and not the richer folks), they would have appointed conservative judges etc.....the point being there were way more godly options for the 2016 GOP nominee....Trump is a evil man full of hatred and having a man like him as our president for 4 more years is going to be way more costly in the long run than dealing with old senile Biden for 4 yrs.....
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There's a distinct difference between being a silent voter and going out there and being rah rah, pro Trump every chance you get. I recognize that our two party system forces us (realistically) to choose between the lesser of two evils. In 2016 I was a reluctant, yet silent, voter for the president. But I just cannot go there again. Every time I think about it my conscience tells me no. Sadly, I believe he goes on acting this way because he knows that he has the evangelical vote regardless of his behavior. That, to me, is the saddest part of all of this. For me, political expediency is not worth my conscience.
snowlover91
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Without turning this into a religious discussion, as a Christian I realize the politicians are never going to be perfect or even likely come close to what I believe the Bible teaches is right/wrong. At the same time though I look at the policies one proposes and see what lines up closest with where I stand and what the Bible teaches. I’m not voting for a preacher or perfectly moral person but someone who will promote policies that align with a biblical worldview. Within that framework I can fully disagree with a persons character or actions but still vote for them due to the policies they will promote. When it came down to 2016 it was a liberal agenda which I strongly disagree with vs a more conservative one (conservative judges and SC, against abortion, freedom of religion, taking on China, strong military, etc). The same holds true for this election year as well, not to mention who knows what will happen to Biden with his health and memory concerns. His VP pick will be quite important for him.
Downeastnc
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The same could be argued for Trump health wise and Trump does show signs of some dementia etc....
I understand that you pick Trump because of your political beliefs but the point Poimen and Fraz are making is that your Christian beliefs SHOULD make it so you cannot support someone like Trump....you don't have to vote for Trump or Biden.....Trump does not act like a Christian at all, his behavior should be appalling to everyone.
Basically its like Poimen said Trump see's the Christian right as in his pocket.....the evangelicals are the GOP party version of the black voter block for the Dems....
snowlover91
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Honestly you could say that about most politicians though. Some are just better at hiding their depravity and issues than others are imo. If I were to vote on someone who had values and character traits that aligned with Scripture I would never have anyone to vote for lol.
Shaggy
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My vote largely came down based on my belief that trump is a serial sexual assaulter and dishonest man to his core. I can't vote for a man who brags about what he has and teach my son to treat women with respect. I can't vote for him and tell my son not to be a cheater. I can't vote for him and tell my son not to lie. There is zero to emulate from this man. Voting for him and then claiming its for his policies would be like me telling my son all off those despicable behaviors are ok if the person has what I perceive as "good" policies.
We have to teach our kids by showing them the way not simply telling them the way while we do something differently.
snowlover91
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I think you missed my point. I picked Trump because many of his policies align with things the Bible teaches or that I personally hold to. The Bible and history in general is clear about the sovereignty of a nation being protected by strong border policy and immigrants adhering to the law of the land. I also am strongly against abortion based on my convictions and belief regarding what the Bible teaches on that subject. I’m a big believer in freedom of religion, letting people have the freedom to believe what they want rather than mandated one way or another. Many of our other freedoms are also affected through the judicial system, especially the decisions in the various circuits and Supreme Court. I want people there who will interpret the constitution as it is written and also not promote a liberal agenda. When I voted for Trump I weighed the various issues he has vs things like this. In my view it is reasonable to support the policies a person will hold to even if you disagree with other aspects of their character or demeanor. It’s fine if you and others have a different view on the subject but that’s where I stand and why I will be voting again for Trump this fall. I cannot in good conscience vote for someone like Biden OR a 3rd party person who might have better character traits and qualities but has 0 chance of winning which would then result in someone like Biden as president. I also like Pence and in the event something happened to Trump think he would be a great replacement.
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