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Matthew70 said:
The man has dementia. If you’re good with him not being able to communicate then keep him.
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Okay, so this is where politics plays sorta a mind game on people. I'm also aware of this and choose a different course of action. That is, where i don't affiliate with either party. So, i therefore objectively analyze all sources politically leaning both ways; & sources in the middle obviously. I make my opinions based off everything while remaining the least biased i can possibly be. So, no i don't side with Joe Biden or Trump that you assume so. This must be some sort of game to you; like republicans must win. You're not alone. That's the problem with politics right there, haha
 
Brent said:
2020 in America. I just have no words anymore

Again less than 1% of Americans have had Coronavirus
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Government has intervened in store hours for ever. These stay at home orders arent much different than curfews during natural disasters. Nobodies right to religion has been touched for one second.

Are you saying the govt has zero right to dictate to a business when it can open or close? What about bars having closing hours? What about decades of blue laws driven by religious agendas?
 
Shaggy said:
Government has intervened in store hours for ever. These stay at home orders arent much different than curfews during natural disasters. Nobodies right to religion has been touched for one second.

Are you saying the govt has zero right to dictate to a business when it can open or close? What about bars having closing hours? What about decades of blue laws driven by religious agendas?
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As with all things in life, balance is usually key. Listening to Laura Ingram is not going to keep anyone in the right balance. But at the same time, endless lockdowns and restrictions are not in balance either.

We have flattened the curve and that is a good thing. But we must learn now how to live side-by-side with this virus, just as many generations have done before. Many of the restrictions are unbalanced and unreasonable in themselves.

Beaches closed? Surfers ticketed for surfing in the ocean alone? Hundreds of people allowed to gather in Hobby Lobby but not in church? What started out as a balanced approach at flattening the curve has devolved into a chaotic attempt to further mitigate a virus that’s not going away anytime soon.

We were told that the initial lockdown was to prevent our healthcare system from being overrun. We achieved that and now our healthcare system is nowhere close to being overwhelmed.
 
Poimen said:
As with all things in life, balance is usually key. Listening to Laura Ingram is not going to keep anyone in the right balance. But at the same time, endless lockdowns and restrictions are not in balance either.

We have flattened the curve and that is a good thing. But we must learn now how to live side-by-side with this virus, just as many generations have done before. Many of the restrictions are unbalanced and unreasonable in themselves.

Beaches closed? Surfers ticketed for surfing in the ocean alone? Hundreds of people allowed to gather in Hobby Lobby but not in church? What started out as a balanced approach at flattening the curve has devolved into a chaotic attempt to further mitigate a virus that’s not going away anytime soon.

We were told that the initial lockdown was to prevent our healthcare system from being overrun. We achieved that and now our healthcare system is nowhere close to being overwhelmed.
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I agree that the measures need to ease and relax. The notion that governments dont regulate our commerce through different tactics and for different reasons is what i was addressing. They've been doing that for as long as theres been a government.
 
Matthew70 said:

Perfect example. Liberals can’t see because they are blinded by hate.
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That has to be the most laughable comparison ever. Florida relies heavily on tourism, NY doesn't. Florida's tourism industry is what prevents them from having a state income tax. This also ties into their budget. On the virus, NY has a higher population density in the state set to NYC. FL has it spread across the state. Also case count is heavily determined by the number of testing done. NY has tested over double of what Florida has. All you're doing now is vomiting out random articles and tweets to try and validate yourself. You're trying to validate an argument off of opinions and statistics presented in a heavily biased light.
 
EV_WS said:
This comment is extraordinarily DISGUSTING !! I wouldn't expect anything less from a "Tolerant" Leftist. Plain UGLY !!
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His dumping of the stock instead of sounding the alarm about the real threat is disgusting. He never challenged the Trump administration and said hey we need to do more! That probably cost lives.
 
eyewall said:
The current GOP is willing to sacrifice workers on the altar of capitalism to preserve the billionaire ruling class. I think that is morally reprehensible as well.
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It's to preserve the mom and pop businesses, the people that risk their lively hoods to make themselves better, the businesses that you shop at.
 
eyewall said:
The current GOP is willing to sacrifice workers on the altar of capitalism to preserve the billionaire ruling class. I think that is morally reprehensible as well.
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You obviously don't own a small business which is where the vast majority of people work. Quit trying to out socialist Bernie and understand socialistic policies will make us like other countries, unless this is what you want and think is best for the USA. Just for the record, most rich billionaires are Democrats
 
Shaggy said:
Government has intervened in store hours for ever. These stay at home orders arent much different than curfews during natural disasters. Nobodies right to religion has been touched for one second.

Are you saying the govt has zero right to dictate to a business when it can open or close? What about bars having closing hours? What about decades of blue laws driven by religious agendas?
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There is a strong argument that the government does not have the right to control a person’s private property without due process. I would say none of the laws restricting operating hours are constitutional. I don’t agree with you on the infringement of religious freedom. Banning the gathering of Christians is a clear violation of their constitutional right to practice their religion. The state should not be allowed to forbid it. They are welcome to make recommendations and then let the parishioners decide what’s best for themselves.
 
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eyewall said:
The current GOP is willing to sacrifice workers on the altar of capitalism to preserve the billionaire ruling class. I think that is morally reprehensible as well.
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Of course you do, you’re a Marxist. Marxism is a form of cruel collectivism. I bet you would love to be one of those billionaires, wouldn’t you? Socialism thrives among the envious and jealousy fuels the collective cause. Make everyone share everything equally! Yeah, that never, ever works.
 
weatherfide said:
There is a strong argument that the government does not have the right to control a person’s private property without due process. I would say none of the laws restricting operating hours are constitutional. I don’t agree with you on the infringement of religious freedom. Banning the gathering of Christians is a clear violation of their constitutional right to practice their religion. The state should not be allowed to forbid it. They are welcome to make recommendations and then let the parishioners decide what’s best for themselves.
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So you are upset about state orders to keep Christians from gathering during the pandemic, but do you have a problem with Christianity-based laws regarding alcohol and entertainment being forced on non-christians?
 
weatherfide said:
Of course you do, you’re a Marxist. Marxism is a form of cruel collectivism. I bet you would love to be one of those billionaires, wouldn’t you? Socialism thrives among the envious and jealousy fuels the collective cause. Make everyone share everything equally! Yeah, that never, ever works.
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Sharing is caring man! And you weren't speaking to me, but I don't want to be a billionaire. I would have to screw over too many other people to get there.
 
weatherfide said:
Of course you do, you’re a Marxist. Marxism is a form of cruel collectivism. I bet you would love to be one of those billionaires, wouldn’t you? Socialism thrives among the envious and jealousy fuels the collective cause. Make everyone share everything equally! Yeah, that never, ever works.
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It does no good to try and have conversations with some in here. As many others have already found out and don’t even post in here anymore. All they can do is call the conservatives names. Yesterday I’m called a ------. All they can do is give thumbs down and say the articles I vomit are trying to validate my point of view. Yet they have no articles to show the opposite. They are ok with watching America go into a black hole. Thinking utopia and nothing can go wrong. All in the name of saving one life they will sacrifice millions of jobs and lives and future of America. Not even thinking of the suffering and pain and hungry this is causing and will cause for years to come. Not thinking that allowing people to die alone itself is causing mental anguish and depression on people not being able to see their loved ones if sick from any illness. They surrender all their rights all in the name of saving one life. The division in America is beyond anything I thought I would see in my lifetime. Yes Trump has caused some of it but so has the liberals. The day will come when America will reset along with rest of world. Will it be in my lifetime or kids. I sure hope not but the storm clouds are on the horizon. Yes of course I am a doom and gloom some say. Which is the total opposite. I live each day to its fullest not fearing death but am a realist. Let’s hope the liberals are right and utopia is not a fairytale.
 
crecre9 said:
So you are upset about state orders to keep Christians from gathering during the pandemic, but do you have a problem with Christianity-based laws regarding alcohol and entertainment being forced on non-christians?
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Please quote said “Christian laws.”
 
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