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Graham is like all the other spineless corrupt republicans. He only cares about keeping his job. Like I said before he was on Tucker slamming the Democrats which most are liberals in politics these days. Saying how bad they were. It’s the flavor of day for each and every one of them. It is what it is. Socialist will soon be what America is. No turning back once all the socialist programs are implemented. Also not sure why everyone is so focused on Biden. He’s not really going to be president. He’s just the stepping stone for his Marxist vp he picks. How long does everyone think Biden is actually going to be president for? I give him 6 months to year before his health is reason for stepping down. Maybe I will be surprised and he will actually be a good president or his vp will.
Shaggy
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Problem is we cant afford to win with inept and clueless con men like trump. We need to get back to true Conservatism with real leaders that understand the stage they are playing on.
Shaggy
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Gowdy/haley
NCSNOW
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MR Mueller and his op ed self just got a phone call to show up in front of the senate this week. Bout time these clowns get put underboath and answer for this coupe attempt.
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Jessy89
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Shaggy
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So I dont miss out is Marxist the new GOP catch phrase to scare everyone?
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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Yes. Finally.
NCSNOW
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You aint got true conservatives? Thats the problem. Theyll sound conservative promise this n that. But never deliver. Instead cowar to the cancel culture MSM. Vote for someone who does what he says hes gonna do. Jessie Helms aint around anymore. But Trump is.
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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Trump is more conservative especially socially than any president since Raegan.
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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Not sure I can find where Biden fits in that bolded sentence lol
NCSNOW
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Nope,its the calling it out for what it is. Cancel Culture is the most appropiate tag. You want to cancel out evereything and start over the way the left thinks it should be. Divide America from its herritage, fundamnetal core One Nation Under God. Burn it down and bring it back the leftest socialist way.
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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I’ve read a Book about this before. In fact, was reading it this morning....
A write-in for the first time in my life is sounding more and more possible.
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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Hillary or Don Jr? ?
NCSNOW
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Gonna post this, because I know several want bother reading Newt Gingrich article above. But it is spot on. You guys who claim to be conservative or Republican what have you. Your issue isnt with Trump. Its with What Newt calls Trumpism. Hes spot on correct.
Per Newt;
The deep state Republicans are against Trumpism as much as they are against President Trump.
In a real sense, the revolt of the anti-Trump Republicans is further proof of just how different and disruptive the Trump candidacy and the Trump presidency have been.
Most of the anti-Trump Republicans come from elite schools and built their careers around being part of the elite. They valued the professorial intellectual approach. They believed in leaders relying on staff work because they had usually been the staff. Antony Jay’s "Yes, Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister" could have been written about them. In many ways, they found President Barack Obama’s professorial style comforting. They might have disagreed on policy, but they could agree on style.
The Trump candidacy was an enormous, rude shock to the deep state Republicans.
These were people who knew how to play the game. They moved effortlessly from policy jobs in the bureaucracy to think tanks, where they wrote about their policies for law firms and lobbyists. They would go on television or be interviewed in newspapers where they talked about their own policies.
The deep state Republicans worked with and socialized with deep state Democrats. They were much more comfortable with deep state Democrats than with most Republicans. They could have bipartisan cocktail parties in Georgetown and nice dinners at elegant restaurants. They often went to the same vacation towns and enjoyed the same beaches and hobbies.
For the deep state Republicans, Democrats were often far more acceptable and desirable than the incorrigible Republicans in the House and Senate – or the incorrigible think tanks such as Heritage and Hudson Institute. They were a government in waiting for the next Republican president. Their roots sometimes went as far back as the Dewey Machine, the Dwight Eisenhower White House, and the Gerald Ford Administration. They worked for President Richard Nixon but never liked him (in his heart he was incorrigible no matter how brilliant his foreign policy was from their perspective). They loved the Ford Administration and deeply disliked then-Gov. Ronald Reagan almost beating him in the 1976 primaries. They were deeply at home in the Bush Administrations (Yale, Skull and Bones – how could it get more establishment?)
In 2016, they were gearing up for Jeb Bush – even though he was University of Texas and not Yale. Still, Jeb had been a remarkably innovative governor of Florida and had a warm, positive style. He felt right to the deep state Republicans whose advice he would rely on and whose appointments to major policy posts in a third Bush Administration were virtually a foregone conclusion.
Then along came Donald J Trump.
Per Newt;
The deep state Republicans are against Trumpism as much as they are against President Trump.
In a real sense, the revolt of the anti-Trump Republicans is further proof of just how different and disruptive the Trump candidacy and the Trump presidency have been.
Most of the anti-Trump Republicans come from elite schools and built their careers around being part of the elite. They valued the professorial intellectual approach. They believed in leaders relying on staff work because they had usually been the staff. Antony Jay’s "Yes, Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister" could have been written about them. In many ways, they found President Barack Obama’s professorial style comforting. They might have disagreed on policy, but they could agree on style.
The Trump candidacy was an enormous, rude shock to the deep state Republicans.
These were people who knew how to play the game. They moved effortlessly from policy jobs in the bureaucracy to think tanks, where they wrote about their policies for law firms and lobbyists. They would go on television or be interviewed in newspapers where they talked about their own policies.
The deep state Republicans worked with and socialized with deep state Democrats. They were much more comfortable with deep state Democrats than with most Republicans. They could have bipartisan cocktail parties in Georgetown and nice dinners at elegant restaurants. They often went to the same vacation towns and enjoyed the same beaches and hobbies.
For the deep state Republicans, Democrats were often far more acceptable and desirable than the incorrigible Republicans in the House and Senate – or the incorrigible think tanks such as Heritage and Hudson Institute. They were a government in waiting for the next Republican president. Their roots sometimes went as far back as the Dewey Machine, the Dwight Eisenhower White House, and the Gerald Ford Administration. They worked for President Richard Nixon but never liked him (in his heart he was incorrigible no matter how brilliant his foreign policy was from their perspective). They loved the Ford Administration and deeply disliked then-Gov. Ronald Reagan almost beating him in the 1976 primaries. They were deeply at home in the Bush Administrations (Yale, Skull and Bones – how could it get more establishment?)
In 2016, they were gearing up for Jeb Bush – even though he was University of Texas and not Yale. Still, Jeb had been a remarkably innovative governor of Florida and had a warm, positive style. He felt right to the deep state Republicans whose advice he would rely on and whose appointments to major policy posts in a third Bush Administration were virtually a foregone conclusion.
Then along came Donald J Trump.
Kasich, Rubio, or Haley as of now would be the most likely write-ins for me.
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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Come on now. We’ve already tried that mold in 2008 and 2012, we don’t need RINOs, it won’t work.
ForsythSnow
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If nobody bothered reading it's because its a personal piece and posting the entire article here makes it sound like you're trying to shove something down our throats. If nobody responds or posts about it or anything then there isn't a sense in bringing it up again.
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Deleted member 527
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Weekend of bloodshed sees 9 stabbed, 2 dead and more fighting for life
Victims include teenage boys and a police officer
www.mylondon.news
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Deleted member 527
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Well what do you call the ones peaceful protesting? What is their beliefs along with the BLM and Antifa? Im pretty sure is Marxist/socialism beliefs. Most politicians are liberals with that thinking also. Thing is conservatives don’t realize republicans are not conservatives anymore and Democrats are liberals in govt. Those 2 parties are not real anymore.
NCSNOW
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Not shocking.
Phoenix Mayor Peddles Misinformation About Hospital Morgue Space To Pick Partisan Fight
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Phoenix Mayor Peddles Misinformation About Hospital Morgue Space To Pick Partisan Fight
JULY 10, 2020 By Tristan Justice
Tarheel17
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I think one thing to remember for those expecting Trump's die-hards to be enthusiastic and all come out and vote and shock the world again, I think the Black vote will be a lot stronger this time around. Even for those who aren't in love with Biden, many absolutely despise Trump and his handling of the George Floyd protests. Many of these voter sat out in 2016 (didn't have any love for Hillary) but were a key part of Obama's coalition. If they show up, Trump's going to lose MI, PA, WI and that's the ball game.
Jessy89
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If Trump is gonna win this is how I think he does it.
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NoSnowATL
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Another reason you don’t believe numbers or news post. The fact that this virus has became political is sick.
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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Per the polls, if you want to believe them or not, Trump is polling better with Blacks and Latinos than he did even in 2016.
Shaggy
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If Biden makes police reform a central part of his campaign and brings in Val Demings who was a former police chief as VP then I think he pulls in black voters on the level Obama did.
Trumps desire to have his ego stroked has really led him to cater to the smallest % of his supporters. His true base. The ones who hesaid would support him even of he shot someone on 5th avenue. A lot of moderates who voted for him in 2016 did so because they hoped he would evolve,change and become more presidential. They have 3 years to know that wasnt the case. The question remains are they ok with what they see or are they done with a divider who caters to racists and the worst of our human nature?
Tarheel17
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Minnesota hasn't gone Republican since Richard Nixon. Even after all of the recent protests, I would expect WI to be Republican much before MN. Flip those two and I think that's a potential outcome.
Tarheel17
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Turnout is king though. He may poll better with those groups than in 2016, but if significantly more show up in the first place its a net negative.
VegasEagle
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Bingo, voter turn out is very, very important.
Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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If he’s getting a higher share % of that vote than in 2016 then I think he’d want more to show up.
LickWx
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I agree that black voter turnout will be higher , I also agree that trump will capture a much greater share of that vote than before which can help him out in states like NC . NC is one of the states trump is focusing on increasing black support in as it is crucial to him.
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Jessy89
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Tarheel17
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Here's what I mean with this with two examples:
Election 1 Black Vote:
80% D, 20% R, 500,000 voters turn out.
400,000 vote D
100,000 vote R
Net vote for D candidate: +300,000
Election 2 Black Vote:
70% D, 30% R, 1,000,000 voters turn out
700,000 vote D
300,000 vote R
Net vote for D candidate: +400,000
The question is how much support does Trump siphon off, vs. what increase in turnout we see.
She’s the reason why you don’t let the head cheerleader drive your tricked out muscle car.
I will say I like Nikki Haley. I would vote for her. Clemson grad. Former governor. My age and still hot. Okay. So her hotness has nothing to do with her politics, but yeah, I like her.
Jessy89
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I think she runs 2024 regardless of November outcome. Of course that’s if we even still have a country.
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Yeah. Cause it’s really gonna disappear in four years. Quit being so melodramatic. Sit back and get a dose of realism bro. My advice for you is to find a friend with some Sativa, get some of said Sativa, pack a bowl, smoke it, then relax. You’re too fatalistic and dramatic. You need to get stoned and relax.
Jessy89
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I mean what exactly do you think would happen with a democratic ran White House senate and congress? That’s reason enough to expect the worse
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