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South Carolina only had 64 new cases today. Seems like the curve flattened


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We had 300k medical mask to sale arrive today and the govt confiscated for themselves. Everyone should walk around without mask. Since govt works for itself. That’s both parties.
Oh well. Tennessee opening May 1st! Out to eat and soccer! Whoop ?? ?? Whoop!
Yes keep respecting social distancing.
 
Matthew70 said:
No idea yet. It was in Houston. I will see if can find out.
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If it matches other stories out there I'm going to guess federal. Theyve been doing this recently. Theres a letter in the new England medical journal from an administrator who had acquired PPE and was approached by the feds trying to confiscate it.
 
Something I have thought of today. Here the Lowe’s have been packed and doing business as normal except people are social distancing. My county has had no large increase in cases and this county is 4th largest population in TN. So maybe social distancing works plenty even if businesses are open. Also Amazon Center have been open. Yes they have had some cases but Lowe’s and Amazon have not had to shut down or major outbreaks. Maybe warmer temps and the sun also to help. As for Cuamo crying and moaning. Well you did cause panic and your subways are still packed. You blame Trump for not doing his job. Well your state is the worse in deaths. That’s on you sorry arse governor not on Trump.
 
Matthew70 said:
Something I have thought of today. Here the Lowe’s have been packed and doing business as normal except people are social distancing. My county has had no large increase in cases and this county is 4th largest population in TN. So maybe social distancing works plenty even if businesses are open. Also Amazon Center have been open. Yes they have had some cases but Lowe’s and Amazon have not had to shut down or major outbreaks. Maybe warmer temps and the sun also to help. As for Cuamo crying and moaning. Well you did cause panic and your subways are still packed. You blame Trump for not doing his job. Well your state is the worse in deaths. That’s on you sorry arse governor not on Trump.
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Question do you think a vacation to pigeon forge will be possible the beginning of July? Hoping the Clint black concert still happens at the patriots festival


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Lol trump

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump's misdirection on virus testing, deaths

President Donald Trump is falsely assigning blame to governors and the Obama administration for shortages in coronavirus testing. For much of the week, he was pretender to a throne that didn't exist as he claimed king-like powers over the pandemic response and Congress. Meanwhile, Trump denied...
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Matthew70 said:
International and it was Federal. Had come from Hong Kong.
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That's interesting. Haven't had a problem but fda and customs have stepped up regulations on non air bridge companies bringing in ppe because the counterfeit market is so big
 
Matthew70 said:
Something I have thought of today. Here the Lowe’s have been packed and doing business as normal except people are social distancing. My county has had no large increase in cases and this county is 4th largest population in TN. So maybe social distancing works plenty even if businesses are open. Also Amazon Center have been open. Yes they have had some cases but Lowe’s and Amazon have not had to shut down or major outbreaks. Maybe warmer temps and the sun also to help. As for Cuamo crying and moaning. Well you did cause panic and your subways are still packed. You blame Trump for not doing his job. Well your state is the worse in deaths. That’s on you sorry arse governor not on Trump.
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So, you're going to blame Cuomo for doing his job? NYC is reliant and has some of the best public transportation in the world. If he's crying don't you think it might be for a legit reason? Trump should have done more, considering he's from NYC. Trump could have prevented a lot of those deaths if he would have taken the virus seriously. Cuomo has gotten praise both from the WHO, CDC, and Trump himself. What more do you want from the man? He can't get nurses and doctors the proper PPE from the federal level. NYC is the most densely populated city in the U.S., Of course, it's going to spread like wildfire. Trump failed the nation when it came to fighting this pandemic. If Cuomo were running for president, I wouldn't even hesitate to vote for him.
 
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Jessy89 said:
Question do you think a vacation to pigeon forge will be possible the beginning of July? Hoping the Clint black concert still happens at the patriots festival


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I hope so. Dollywood will open up no doubt. Disney has to soon enough. They inject money into their state’s economies. I will go with my family. Bottom line is this virus will run thru every single person before there is a vaccine. Everyone can not sip or stay in lockdown till there is a vaccine. That’s just hard truth.
 
ryan1234 said:
So, you're going to blame Cuomo for doing his job? NYC is reliant and has some of the best public transportation in the world. If he's crying don't you think it might be for a legit reason? Trump should have done more, considering he's from NYC. Trump could have prevented a lot of those deaths if he would have taken the virus seriously. Cuomo has gotten praise both from the WHO, CDC, and Trump himself. What more do you want from the man? He can't get nurses and doctors the proper PPE from the federal level. NYC is the most densely populated city in the U.S., Of course, it's going to spread like wildfire. Trump failed the nation when it came to fighting this pandemic. If Cuomo were running for president, I wouldn't even hesitate to vote for him.
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Actually Cuomo continues to allow his subways to be packed. He should step up and do total lockdown of his state. His state response falls on him.
 
SD said:
That's interesting. Haven't had a problem but fda and customs have stepped up regulations on non air bridge companies bringing in ppe because the counterfeit market is so big
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I am surprised. Had a lot of pending orders for them. As did many reps.
 
Matthew70 said:
Actually Cuomo continues to allow his subways to be packed. He should step up and do total lockdown of his state. His state response falls on him.
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People still have to get to work... All you naysayers want our country to open back up... You all can't have it both ways.
 
North Carolina needs to seriously consider relaxing many restrictions. The number of hospitalizations is falling and we have come nowhere close to maxing. No new cases reported over the weekend or even today in my county. It’s time we get back to work.
 
Poimen said:
North Carolina needs to seriously consider relaxing many restrictions. The number of hospitalizations is falling and we have come nowhere close to maxing. No new cases reported over the weekend or even today in my county. It’s time we get back to work.
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, but we can't do it all at once. We should be grateful that NC was able to keep cases to a minimum. That can still change if we give everyone the ok.
 
Is Gov Kemp trying his best to be a laughingstock?? He wants bowling alleys, massage parlors, tattoo parlors, barbers, and nail salons to open on Friday? What is he smoking? Is this really The Onion? I mean that’s a who’s who of the most dangerous places to spread germs.

Moreover, there’s no indication that GA is improving based on the daily stats:

Today in GA had 86 deaths, the worst day yet!

This doesn’t look like a definite top to me as this past Thu-Mon, combined, was by a large margin the highest for both new cases and new deaths for any Thu-Mon yet. The # of new cases was ~4,000 vs ~3,400 the prior Thu-Mon. The # of new deaths was 199 vs only 111 the prior Thu-Mon.

What the heck is going on here??

And get this: he said local officials can’t overrule. OMG!
 
ryan1234 said:
People still have to get to work... All you naysayers want our country to open back up... You all can't have it both ways.
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That’s what I’m saying. If he does not want any deaths at all then everyone in his state should not be out at all. Either way let’s just focus on forward. States are opening up and let’s just try and be positive about maybe this virus is burning out or maybe herd immunity is already taking effect. If an individual is still worried about the virus no one is making them get out. They can keep their loved ones at home and let the others Spread herd immunity the ones that want to be out and about.
 
SD said:
That's interesting. Haven't had a problem but fda and customs have stepped up regulations on non air bridge companies bringing in ppe because the counterfeit market is so big
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The feds have been confiscating PPE that hospitals and states have been trying to bring in as they were told they were on their own to get stuff. How is it ok for the Feds to keep doing that?
 
pcbjr said:
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This man, who earlier admitted to not realizing the virus can spread before symptoms appear and acting later than he should have, now does this with the numbers still getting worse? He’s not even following the Trump Task Force guidelines of first showing improvement over a 14 day period before starting to lift restrictions.
 
GaWx said:
Is Gov Kemp trying his best to be a laughingstock?? He wants bowling alleys, massage parlors, tattoo parlors, barbers, and nail salons to open on Friday? What is he smoking? Is this really The Onion? I mean that’s a who’s who of the most dangerous places to spread germs.

Moreover, there’s no indication that GA is improving based on the daily stats:

Today in GA had 86 deaths, the worst day yet!

This doesn’t look like a definite top to me as this past Thu-Mon, combined, was by a large margin the highest for both new cases and new deaths for any Thu-Mon yet. The # of new cases was ~4,000 vs ~3,400 the prior Thu-Mon. The # of new deaths was 199 vs only 111 the prior Thu-Mon.

What the heck is going on here??

And get this: he said local officials can’t overrule. OMG!
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Ive seen that Monday’s are usually bad because of the bad weekend reporting. Let’s see what tues And wed look like.
 
Poimen said:
yeah, I didn't mean open up all at once. But we can certainly afford to loosen some of the restrictions--and then see what happens.
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The equipment I operate has controls down fractions of a second. I can control every conveyor and section using Feet per second controls. Every adjustment has it's intended consequence and unintended consequences. I speed up one conveyor it effects the down range operation.

My point is that when I need to make adjustments I make them incrementally and with very controlled steps. If I think I need to add 30 fps I start by raising it 10fps and then I observe the downrange consequences. If all works well I raise it again. All the while being ready to react to the downrange problems if tbey pop up.

I believe this is how the reopen should work. Reopen a little and observe.
 
LithiaWx said:
Ive seen that Monday’s are usually bad because of the bad weekend reporting. Let’s see what tues And wed look like.
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But compared to previous Mondays and previous any days, today had the most deaths and the last five days were the worst THU-MON yet by 600 cases and 88 deaths! Kemp is ignoring the guidelines!

And he’s opening tattoo parlors? Massage parlors? Bowling alleys?

I don’t see it happening, but wouldn’t it be something/ironic if Trump were to overrule him and tell Kemp he’s going too far too fast? He’d actually gain some respect from me if he were to do this.
 
GaWx said:
But compared to previous Mondays and previous any days, today had the most deaths and the last five days were the worst THU-MON yet by 600 cases and 88 deaths! Kemp is ignoring the guidelines!

I don’t see it happening, but wouldn’t it be something/ironic if Trump were to overrule him?
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Hospitalizations appear to be leveling off, though.
 
I will say that Georgia cases were very likely going to start skyrocketing pretty soon regardless based off another tidbit that I had heard about today. Although some areas are doing a better job because of their hospitals (which is why I tend to believe that the Augusta area and areas close are probably closer to accurate than you'd think), others still weren't testing a lot. And it sounds like just NOW that the testing is going to begin really ramping up.

If my theory is right, it might have taken much, much longer than even what I was targeting for if you actually were going to follow guidelines (which I do still think are fair guidelines). I was looking to start opening businesses with social distancing a little over 3 weeks from now.
 
GeorgiaGirl said:
I will say that Georgia cases were very likely going to start skyrocketing pretty soon regardless based off another tidbit that I had heard about today. Although some areas are doing a better job because of their hospitals (which is why I tend to believe that the Augusta area and areas close are probably closer to accurate than you'd think), others still weren't testing a lot. And it sounds like just NOW that the testing is going to begin really ramping up.

If my theory is right, it might have taken much, much longer than even what I was targeting for if you actually were going to follow guidelines (which I do still think are fair guidelines). I was looking to start opening businesses with social distancing a little over 3 weeks from now.
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People need to eat, pay their rent and other necessities. They can’t wait three more weeks. That’s why Kemp is opening everything up ASAP.
 
Steven_1974 said:
The feds have been confiscating PPE that hospitals and states have been trying to bring in as they were told they were on their own to get stuff. How is it ok for the Feds to keep doing that?
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I guess under the DPA they can and redistribute where they think its needed. I had only heard in passing of the feds dipping their hands in the cookie jar at suppliers warehouses not on existing shipments. Now I'm worried about my inbound ppe.
 
GaWx said:
Is Gov Kemp trying his best to be a laughingstock?? He wants bowling alleys, massage parlors, tattoo parlors, barbers, and nail salons to open on Friday? What is he smoking? Is this really The Onion? I mean that’s a who’s who of the most dangerous places to spread germs.

Moreover, there’s no indication that GA is improving based on the daily stats:

Today in GA had 86 deaths, the worst day yet!

This doesn’t look like a definite top to me as this past Thu-Mon, combined, was by a large margin the highest for both new cases and new deaths for any Thu-Mon yet. The # of new cases was ~4,000 vs ~3,400 the prior Thu-Mon. The # of new deaths was 199 vs only 111 the prior Thu-Mon.

What the heck is going on here??

And get this: he said local officials can’t overrule. OMG!
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I understand what you are saying but those are privately owned business that need business to survive. Most businesses that have applied for loans are already out of paying their employees. I’m sure the states emergency funds are near depleted. The govt can’t just keep printing money. It’s a no win situation.
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States Burn Through Cash for Unemployment Payments

New York has asked the federal government for a $4 billion no-interest loan to cover unemployment payments for people put out of work by the pandemic as states burn through funds set aside for jobless claims.
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Matthew70 said:
I understand what you are saying but those are privately owned business that need business to survive. Most businesses that have applied for loans are already out of paying their employees. I’m sure the states emergency funds are near depleted. The govt can’t just keep printing money. It’s a no win situation.
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Let’s open up and see what happens. My guess we survive. Can’t please everybody.


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