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Ostrich December

I want real snow instead of fantasy snow. But it is discouraging not to have any bites at all with a decent pattern showing up. It's been a recurring theme the past two years with nothing showing up. The last two years the pattern was so bad it wasn't surprising. But this year so far I figured we'd be seeing more hope than we see now.
agree, total frustration see nothing but cold rain after cold rain... im ready for the ao nao go positive again, hopefully it will later january. if this is all winter has to offer
 
Gfs is still Interesting in the 28th time frame

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Looks like very weak onset CAD, followed by a rapid changeover to rain. Surface low track isn't the best, high is departing from the northeast, and the GL low is moving nicely into position. No drought in sight though, so that's good.
 
Whiney posts belong in the whamby thread not in any of the main threads I’m so tired of seeing a bunch of whiners every time a model doesn’t give their backyard snow .. gets old fast.. (I know I’m whining here so feel free to take this post along with the others MODS)
 
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If this happened the 28th that’s warning criteria Ice totals dang.


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Whiney posts belong in the whamby thread not in any of the main threads I’m so tired of seeing a bunch of whiners every time a model doesn’t give their backyard snow .. gets old fast.. (I know I’m whining here so feel free to take this post along with the others MODS)
Ignore button works
 
Man the NAO on the GFS just wants to be negative all the way through. But the PNA is just a mess. Troughs just keep dropping into the SW, like usual. The pattern could be epic if we could get just a little help from the Pacific. As is, it looks like roughly normal to below temps with normal to above precipitation, most likely rain. Geez.
 
Man the NAO on the GFS just wants to be negative all the way through. But the PNA is just a mess. Troughs just keep dropping into the SW, like usual. The pattern could be epic if we could get just a little help from the Pacific. As is, it looks like roughly normal to below temps with normal to above precipitation, most likely rain. Geez.

Yep! That’s not going to cut it. We need that PNA to go positive.


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agree, total frustration see nothing but cold rain after cold rain... im ready for the ao nao go positive again, hopefully it will later january. if this is all winter has to offer
So basically we could end up with 10 weeks of rain then cold then warm up and rain.... wash, rinse, and repeat. yay.. can't wait ?
 
Looks like very weak onset CAD, followed by a rapid changeover to rain. Surface low track isn't the best, high is departing from the northeast, and the GL low is moving nicely into position. No drought in sight though, so that's good.
Terrible
 
Man the NAO on the GFS just wants to be negative all the way through. But the PNA is just a mess. Troughs just keep dropping into the SW, like usual. The pattern could be epic if we could get just a little help from the Pacific. As is, it looks like roughly normal to below temps with normal to above precipitation, most likely rain. Geez.
No more discussions about needing the -NAO vs a +PNA. We straight up need both now!
 
Man the NAO on the GFS just wants to be negative all the way through. But the PNA is just a mess. Troughs just keep dropping into the SW, like usual. The pattern could be epic if we could get just a little help from the Pacific. As is, it looks like roughly normal to below temps with normal to above precipitation, most likely rain. Geez.
Exactly. Pacific pattern is screwing us up... it’s preventing us to get any true artic air making it down this way ... rain enjoy
 
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