Weather Blunderground finally revised the low for tonight to 35... they were forecasting 41, and it's now 38. Maybe there is some overnight warming expected?
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Pattern November Knock-Out
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Brent
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heh, 83-84 in the benchmark winter here for cold. DFW was below freezing in December for a record setting 11 days straight
and then in 1989 the last time the airport went below zero
We just don't have winters like that anymore
I lived in Austin during that winter.. snowed 3 times in January.
Edit: that was Jan 85 actually.. (my memory ain't so good, I was in high school then). I remember that Dec 83 though.. was intense cold, not so much snow in Austin.
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tractor girl
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The only practical and sensible approach to all of this is to give in to Dumpster Fire December and pray the WX gods fall for classic reverse psychology.
Brent
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the 80s had so many good winters. The 1985 inauguration it was so cold in Washington it was moved indoors.
I dunno what has happened since, now we're lucky to have a day below freezing or a low below 20.
Forget the year, but it was when that terrible plane crash happened in DC, crashing into the frozen Potomac.. I was in middle school in Houston with one inch of snow on the ground. Weird how snow and tragic events burn in your mind like that.
Yellow Snow
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That was the Jan. 1982 Air Florida crash; I remember it vividly. All but 5 of the 79 passengers and crew perished, and 4 people on the ground were also killed. Just horrible.
Yeah, I was 12 then.. I remember walking home from school early, because of snow in Houston.. (yeah they let kids do that back then)... and then seeing that on the news when I got home.
Brent
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lol, nowadays the whole region shuts down at the site of a snowflake.
Times have sure changed.
Brent
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there was a HIGH of 13 here in 1983 and 14 in 1989. Unfathomable today. Some winters never get that cold for a low.
Quote from a pro met. this evening prior to the 0Z runs coming out:
"The ensembles for all the models, GFS, Euro and Canadian turn it sharply colder late in week 2, with cross polar flow returning and dumping Arctic air into Canada on many of the members."
Keep in mind that I found QBO/ENSO/Nov AO analogs to favor a cold Dec.
"The ensembles for all the models, GFS, Euro and Canadian turn it sharply colder late in week 2, with cross polar flow returning and dumping Arctic air into Canada on many of the members."
Keep in mind that I found QBO/ENSO/Nov AO analogs to favor a cold Dec.
the lowest high I've personally experienced was here in CHA, 16 in early Feb 1996. (la Nina year, for whatever that's worth, lol). Although as recently as Jan 2014, I remember it being 11 degrees at around sunset, the low only went down to 5 that night. Epic recent arctic front. I was sure I was going to see my first ever below zero official temp here in Chattanooga that night, but didn't happen.
All points to the small scale differences in trough position for winter in the Continental US. When it's even a bit further west, North Texas gets blasted more than Tennessee or South Carolina...
So much for JB having a mild E US winter. Although the snow forecast dates back to August, the temperature forecast for winter is apparently significantly colder than the fairly mild forecast he previously had:
Funny and true response to JB's colder forecast (although I recall he had one or two not cold about 10-12 winters ago lol):
Edit: this JB tweet is confusing with him showing what looks like a Nov temp forecast and no DJF, but his main message is that he's going cold for much of the nation once again after earlier having mild for much of the E 1/3 of the US. He just can't handle holding onto a mild forecast. He's been among the worst pro mets in that regard over the years. Awful. Near zero credibility as regards being objective. Show me a pro met who went warm the last two winters and is now going cold and I'll then get excited about a cold pro met's forecast.
Funny and true response to JB's colder forecast (although I recall he had one or two not cold about 10-12 winters ago lol):
Edit: this JB tweet is confusing with him showing what looks like a Nov temp forecast and no DJF, but his main message is that he's going cold for much of the nation once again after earlier having mild for much of the E 1/3 of the US. He just can't handle holding onto a mild forecast. He's been among the worst pro mets in that regard over the years. Awful. Near zero credibility as regards being objective. Show me a pro met who went warm the last two winters and is now going cold and I'll then get excited about a cold pro met's forecast.
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pcbjr
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Belongs in the nonexistent December thread, but ... Uh Oh ...
ForsythSnow
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Fine if it warms up early, so that way we have time to cool down near Christmas. It's also fine if we are I'm the low 60s to upper 50s as that's better than the 70s and even near 80s last year.Belongs in the nonexistent December thread, but ... Uh Oh ...
Meh Mack always has a negative outlook, his viewpoint has been jaded and to a degree rightfully so, he lives in SC
He actually had turned the corner and for a brief time was one of the more positive posters but alas his patience has failed him and he is back to normal.Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
Maybe with the brief transition to slightly above normal we can actually get rain.Belongs in the nonexistent December thread, but ... Uh Oh ...
LetItSnow
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I vote triple D, Delightfully Delicious December