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Pattern November Knock-Out

SoutheastRidge said:
If you wanna see snow in Georgia, you're gonna have to head to the mountains where you have some elevation. Don't go to Gainesville, Canton, Rome, or La Fayette. You won't find snow there unless you get real lucky. Not much difference in snowfall between La Fayette and Augusta. La Fayette may average a couple or 3 inches while Augusta averages an inch or so. Both places are horrible for snow lovers.
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La Fayette usually gets what Chattanooga gets. Maybe not quite as major, but what Chattanooga gets, La Fayette gets. I can attest to that a bit from what I've researched, heard from family, and personally seen.

In Augusta it's boom or bust, in North Georgia it depends on what's going to happen for the whole winter.
 
SoutheastRidge said:
If you wanna see snow in Georgia, you're gonna have to head to the mountains where you have some elevation. Don't go to Gainesville, Canton, Rome, or La Fayette. You won't find snow there unless you get real lucky. Not much difference in snowfall between La Fayette and Augusta. La Fayette may average a couple or 3 inches while Augusta averages an inch or so. Both places are horrible for snow lovers.
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I’ve lived near Gainesville my entire life and i see at least one measurable snowfall a year.
 
whamby said:
you're incorrect frankly.. there is a huge difference historically in snow frequency between La Fayette and Augusta.
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When I say there's not much difference in snowfall between La Fayette and Augusta I mean there's only like a 2 or 3" difference in an average season. It's not like one city averages 100" and the other averages 5".

According to usclimatedata.com, La Fayette averages 2"
 
SoutheastRidge said:
When I say there's not much difference in snowfall between La Fayette and Augusta I mean there's only like a 2 or 3" difference in an average season. It's not like one city averages 100" and the other averages 5".

According to usclimatedata.com, La Fayette averages 2"
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2-3 inches is a lot in the southeast though lol. That is more than a lot of places get in a whole year!
 
I would like to experience just one lake effect snow event in the Tug Hill in upstate NY. That's on my bucket list. One place in that area recorded 77" in a 24 hour period in 1997. That's more snow than I've seen in my entire lifetime !
 
SoutheastRidge said:
When I say there's not much difference in snowfall between La Fayette and Augusta I mean there's only like a 2 or 3" difference in an average season. It's not like one city averages 100" and the other averages 5".

According to usclimatedata.com, La Fayette averages 2"
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we're talking about chances for a 2-3 inch snowfall historically... your chances are considerably greater seeing one in La Fayette every winter versus Augusta, Ga.. I would also not trust online stats for small towns like La Fayette.. I'm certain their historical average is closer to Chattanooga's 5.5. Some places show 3.9 for CHA but that's only 1981-2010 avg. The 5.5 is from 1870 to current.
 
There's some energy over the PAC NW after Thanksgiving, hopefully it will start digging deeper.
 
whamby said:
we're talking about chances for a 2-3 inch snowfall historically... your chances are considerably greater seeing one in La Fayette every winter versus Augusta, Ga.. I would also not trust online stats for small towns like La Fayette.. I'm certain their historical average is closer to Chattanooga's 5.5. Some places show 3.9 for CHA but that's only 1981-2010 avg. The 5.5 is from 1870 to current.
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I would think the 1981-2010 average would be more accurate. Seems like most places these days don't get as much snow as they did a long time ago. Nashville only averages 6" and I think they used to average closer to 10" or even more.
 
Ughh, not digging deep enough, northern stream at fault.
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Like here's an example comparison of La Fayette and Augusta (through KCHA and what I remember with Christmas 2010, 13/14, and 14/15, but there's no major station with La Fayette so I have no choice) starting from the winter of 09/10 through 16/17:

09/10: La Fayette: January 29th, 2010, February 12th, 2010, March 2nd, 2010.
Augusta: February 12th, 2010
Overall Total: The same, 8 inches, but with Augusta it was through boom/bust.
10/11: La Fayette: December 25th, 2010, January 10th, 2011, February 9th, 2011
Augusta: December 26th, 2010, January 10th, 2011, February 9th, 2011
Overall Total: La Fayette: 13 inches Augusta: 3 inches
11/12: Warm winter, so no surprise....
La Fayette: Trace. Maybe. (this is where there may be some difference in having to use KCHA)
Augusta: Nothing.
12/13: Another warm winter, so no surprise....
La Fayette: Nothing.
Augusta: Nothing.
13/14: La Fayette: January 28th, 2014, February 12-13th, 2014
Augusta: January 28th, 2014, February 12th 2014 (but this was all ice so I almost didn't put it at all)
La Fayette: 9 inches
Augusta: 3 inches
14/15: La Fayette: February 25th, 2015 and a few other nickel and dime events in February.
Augusta: 0 events
La Fayette: 7.5 inches
Augusta: 0 inches
15/16: Warm winter, soooo...
La Fayette: T
Augusta: T
16/17: Another warm winter but this time...
La Fayette: T
Augusta: 0

This was for the most part a pretty nice stretch for winter weather but in this stretch...

La Fayette: 5.4 inches
Augusta: 2 inches

La Fayette had 6 significant snow events in this stretch. Augusta had 2 and the 2 might even be stretching it, it might be 1.

It's not even getting into previous research where I found, even in horrible winters earlier that this area did sometimes get nickel and dime snow events (I'm not talking about recent horrible winters). It's better than Augusta. The northeast side, even outside of the mountains may even have better odds because sometimes the TN Valley hurts winter weather wise in Northwest Georgia. I have looked into it but not hard.
 
GeorgiaGirl said:
Like here's an example comparison of La Fayette and Augusta (through KCHA and what I remember with Christmas 2010, 13/14, and 14/15, but there's no major station with La Fayette so I have no choice) starting from the winter of 09/10 through 16/17:

09/10: La Fayette: January 29th, 2010, February 12th, 2010, March 2nd, 2010.
Augusta: February 12th, 2010
Overall Total: The same, 8 inches, but with Augusta it was through boom/bust.
10/11: La Fayette: December 25th, 2010, January 10th, 2011, February 9th, 2011
Augusta: December 26th, 2010, January 10th, 2011, February 9th, 2011
Overall Total: La Fayette: 13 inches Augusta: 3 inches
11/12: Warm winter, so no surprise....
La Fayette: Trace. Maybe. (this is where there may be some difference in having to use KCHA)
Augusta: Nothing.
12/13: Another warm winter, so no surprise....
La Fayette: Nothing.
Augusta: Nothing.
13/14: La Fayette: January 28th, 2014, February 12-13th, 2014
Augusta: January 28th, 2014, February 12th 2014 (but this was all ice so I almost didn't put it at all)
La Fayette: 9 inches
Augusta: 3 inches
14/15: La Fayette: February 25th, 2015 and a few other nickel and dime events in February.
Augusta: 0 events
La Fayette: 7.5 inches
Augusta: 0 inches
15/16: Warm winter, soooo...
La Fayette: T
Augusta: T
16/17: Another warm winter but this time...
La Fayette: T
Augusta: 0

This was for the most part a pretty nice stretch for winter weather but in this stretch...

La Fayette: 5.4 inches
Augusta: 2 inches

La Fayette had 6 significant snow events in this stretch. Augusta had 2 and the 2 might even be stretching it, it might be 1.

It's not even getting into previous research where I found, even in horrible winters earlier that this area did sometimes get nickel and dime snow events (I'm not talking about recent horrible winters). It's better than Augusta. The northeast side, even outside of the mountains may even have better odds because sometimes the TN Valley hurts winter weather wise in Northwest Georgia. I have looked into it but not hard.
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Generally speaking this is true.. most CHA significant snows effect LaFayette as well.. it's only 60 miles south of us. There have been a few times they got more than CHA. I would think you could find some good record keeping for Dalton though, and they would be pretty close to LaFayette also.
 
Also, just to make it clear...

I'm not discrediting 1/10/11 as a winter storm in Augusta. It just wasn't really a significant snow. It was 2 inches then switch to sleet and freezing rain the rest of the way. Major winter storm yes, significant snow, honestly not really.
 
GeorgiaGirl said:
Also, just to make it clear...

I'm not discrediting 1/10/11 as a winter storm in Augusta. It just wasn't really a significant snow. It was 2 inches then switch to sleet and freezing rain the rest of the way. Major winter storm yes, significant snow, honestly not really.
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Anything more than a dusting is significant in Augusta lmao.
 
SoutheastRidge said:
Anything more than a dusting is significant in Augusta lmao.
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It's just not for me. I consider 1/10/11 significant due to the ice and 1/28/14 significant because since it was really cold that winter they had the same issues as everyone else from a little snow. I guess if you want to talk significant winter storms, then you can add all three of 1/10/11, 1/28/14, and 2/12/14 back in and then it is close with significant winter storms but my point still stands...your best chance at getting big storms even in good years is north of Atlanta in Georgia, your best chance at all snow even in widespread winter storms is north of Atlanta, the most nickel and dime events come north of Atlanta.

Maybe I should say big snow instead of significant. Big for the south for me isn't 2+, it's 3+. It's being picky though.
 
Yeah, don't bother with the 00z GFS, core of cold stays locked in Canada in the post 10 day range... CFS weeklies pretty dismal after Thanksgiving.
 
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