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Severe March 14-17 Severe

This has been my thing this whole time. The convective blow up this afternoon through tonight is going to have some type of impact on tomorrow. The magnitude at this point remains to be seen but it's going to play a role in potentially backing the threat down for some but enhancing it for others
I, both, agree and disagree at the same time.
There will likely be areas that have worked over and probably create a pseudo cold front (cold pool or meso wedge type pocket)

However, at the same time, the wind/jet dynamics are so intense, air will be readily evacuated away from areas worked over. There will be some mid level drying/drier air which probably gives enough spatial coverage to bring on a sh**storm of rotating cells simultaneously.

I believe after today (Friday's portion, we will see areas impacted by 100mph+ gusts in the line that eventually takes shape. Definitely serial derecho vibes for later today.

Can't overstate tonight's supercell potential due to an intensifying LLJ. Strong southerly flow likely keeps things mixed and CAPE will likely be readily available.

Saturday ... I just hope MS/AL have prepped and are ready to take life saving actions.
 
It’ll be interesting to see how this transitions to the Piedmont late Saturday night into Sunday morning. I don’t think we will have as much junkvection as other areas. Our saving grace could be timing. GSP has been a little bit ominous with their wording, mentioning the possibility of a strong tornado. And Brad mentioned that the threat of tornadoes could go up or down here.

Edit- GSP mentioned in their AFD that it has system has slowed down a bit and could linger the threat of severe weather into the afternoon, which of course would spell trouble.
A couple of earlier models have had 2 rounds for some of us in NC and SC, with tornado soundings showing up behind the 1st round. IF this does happen and came through a little later on Sunday things may get rough for some of us.
 
Governor Kay Ivey has issued a state of emergency for all 67 counties ahead of this weekend’s severe weather.

Governor Ivey also issued the following comment:

“The state of Alabama is at risk for potentially dangerous, severe weather throughout this weekend, so it is critical that everyone stays very aware of their local forecasts. Now is the time to make any preparations and have a plan, should the weather conditions become dangerous. Certainly, we are no stranger to Mother Nature’s wrath, but I encourage Alabamians to be vigilant beginning tonight. Stay weather aware and stay safe!” – Governor Kay Ivey

The state of emergency will go into effect today at 2:00 p.m. CT and will remain in effect for the duration of the state of emergency. Alabama law specifies that a state of emergency ordinarily will last 60 days; however, it may be terminated earlier by written proclamation.
 
.SHORT TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/...
As of 211 PM EDT Friday...

Key Messages

1) A powerful storm system will impact the forecast area from
Saturday night through Sunday morning, producing widespread
thunderstorms, many of which will become severe.

2) Damaging winds and several tornadoes are likely with this system.

3) Prepare for severe weather - secure outdoor items, prep and
emergency kit, have multiple ways to get critical warnings,
and plan where to seek shelter if your home is in the path of a
tornado or severe thunderstorm.


By Saturday evening, a robust z500 trough axis will be centered
over the southern Great Plains, driving a strong cold front across
central Louisiana and into the Deep South. Ahead of this front,
the 12z suite of operational guidance continues to depict a 55-65kt
LLJ, which will funnel a continuous stream of Gulf moisture into
the prefrontal environment...allowing QLCS activity to proceed
intact all the way across Alabama and Georgia...showing no signs
of deterioration as it approaches our forecast area.

One big question mark still remains regarding the onset of
convection Saturday night. This morning is the first time
we`ve had a full collection of high-res CAM sources to look at,
and there`s still some question over the possibility of some
warm-sector convective initiation over the western Upstate late
Saturday evening - around or after sunset - as the first waves
of strong synoptic forcing begin. Successive runs of the HRRR
and RAP keep hinting at this possibility - and if it pans out,
these storms will develop in a weakly-unstable but highly-sheared
environment with 0-1km on the order of 250+ m2/s2...more than
enough to expect mini-supercells posing a tornadic risk. The 12z
high-res windows and the NAMnest are much less jazzed about this
idea...and with all the ingredients necessary it may wind up being
a waiting game to see whether this activity materializes.

Whatever the case may be Saturday evening, confidence becomes
much higher toward midnight and thereafter that a well-organized
QLCS will advance out of north Georgia and the Tennessee Valley.
By the time it arrives in the western Carolinas, it`ll have
propagated well downstream of its parent frontal circulation,
which may still be located as far west as the MS-AL state line.
It`s typical in these strong WAA situations for the boundary
layer to remain well-mixed even at night...and so guidance sources
paint a deceptively stable- looking picture of the atmosphere with
sbCAPE forecasts...but MLCAPE, which in this case may be a much
better metric...surges to 300-400 J/kg over much of the region
as the system arrives. The aforementioned LLJ should still be
intact at this time, and this combined with the advancing upper
trough will provide extensive shear. 0-3km shear vectors will
be oriented a solid 60 degrees relative to the advancing QLCS,
which will support a mixture of continued linear-mode convection
alongside discrete cells ahead of the main line. 0-1km SRH,
meanwhile, could attain values in excess of 200 m2/s2 even as
the LLJ starts to deteriorate. All that to say, any discrete
convection will likely be supercellular in nature, posing a risk
of tornadogenesis; on top of this, we`re likely to see embedded
rotation within the trailing QLCS. The primary/most widespread
threat remains damaging winds, which could occur anywhere along
the QLCS, but tornadoes remain a close second.


Improving clarity, too, on QPF...with the eastern half of the
forecast area seeing an overall reduction in expected rainfall
(to less than an inch for the I-77 corridor) but the high terrain
in particular seeing an increase now that the high-res guidance
has become available. The 12z HREF estimates of 3-4 inches in 6
hours, and over 5 in 12 hours, are in line with multiple rounds of
convection affecting favored upslope zones, particularly across
the Smokies and Balsams. Concern remains moderate regarding
flood impacts, with the latest HEFS ensemble river forecasts still
depicting mainly action stage rises at worst (with the exception
of sites in the Smokies, which simply receive so much QPF that
action to minor stage flooding isn`t out of the question).
And, with storms looking to move so quickly in a highly-sheared
environment, most zones will steer clear of even localized flash
flooding...except for isolated locations where multiple rounds of
heavy rainfall take place. That`s to say, localized hydro issues
can`t be ruled out, but aren`t expected to pose a major issue.

&&

.LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/...
As of 219 PM EDT Friday...

Key Messages:

1) A second round of thunder is possible Sunday afternoon.

2) Clear and dry conditions will persist for the first half of
the week.

3) Rain will return Thursday and Friday.

The fun doesn`t end Sunday morning. The general thinking remains
that the main QLCS will exit GSP`s forecast area to the east by a
few hours after daybreak Sunday...but most of the CAMs have slowed
down the progression of the trailing frontal boundary as it becomes
ever more distant from its parent low. In fact, the 12z HRRR and
NAMnest slow it down so much that it`s still meandering across the
I-77 corridor on Sunday afternoon...late enough that the atmosphere
manages to destabilize again over the far eastern fringe of the
forecast area, producing yet another round of thunderstorms!
It`s unclear whether this will actually happen - this is wholly
dependent on the evolution of the main system Saturday night,
how much it saps the atmosphere of its energy, and how the timing
of both the squall line and the trailing frontal boundary set up.
But if it does, more aggressive models like the RDPS once again
depict some 100-250 J/kg sbCAPE (though with significantly
less-pronounced shear/SRH) supportive of at least a few strong -
maybe even some severe - storms in this mess. But, the key here
is that confidence is extremely low.

I'm not sure I have ever seen this in a GSP AFD before. This is serious business. This part is interesting too about the CAPE. They are saying SBCAPE may not matter as much as usual this time. They also are starting to mention the possibility of a 2nd round too.
 
Dr. Jonathon Wall on Twitter points out that STP values on WxBell are waayyyyyy higher than pretty much every other model depiction for this time period. No answer as to why. While values are basically max’d out on WxBell, Wxmodels and wxnerds depict something a bit more modest (and still very significant)
 
Looks like the HRRR is honing in on two main areas of storm activity for the evening. One in MO and N AR, and another with a cluster of storms in MS. It has been fairly consistent in showing this presentation the last few runs. Few more storms may also form up in TN.1741979617343.gif
 
First TStorm watch of the day up.

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GSP wording is still pretty ominous on their latest AFD. They have not backed down with that wording for the past two days. As someone else already alluded to; I think the SPC is going to refrain from making many shifts east until the MS/AL really gets going and marches eastward.
 
I was wondering why is the wording for the forecast tomorrow in Peachtree City so blah? I am looking at the SPC Day 2 (scary scary stuff) and trying to help my family around West Point, GA make some decisions but they keep referring back to the forecast that says:

Saturday: A slight chance of showers before 9am, then a chance of showers after 5pm. Mostly sunny, with a high near 80. South wind 10 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Saturday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms, then showers and possibly a thunderstorm after 8pm. Low around 59. South wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between 1 and 2 inches possible.


So they aren't sure if it is worth leaving to head to Daytona or Jacksonville to stay with family for the weekend. I'm telling them to go, because they are right on the lake and already have bad weather when the Alabama side of West Point Lake has bad weather. Any advice or suggestions I can throw at them would be great!

I'm hoping all of ya'll stay safe down there, I'll be watching and sending messages to family from Maine (some of my family are very HARD headed when it comes to weather). Stay Safe!!
 
Very Impressive moisture profile in South/central MS. Always something when you see fully saturated profiles above 850mb and the EML on top. Now this is the NAM so it could be a little overdone.

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.SHORT TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/...
As of 211 PM EDT Friday...

Key Messages

1) A powerful storm system will impact the forecast area from
Saturday night through Sunday morning, producing widespread
thunderstorms, many of which will become severe.

2) Damaging winds and several tornadoes are likely with this system.

3) Prepare for severe weather - secure outdoor items, prep and
emergency kit, have multiple ways to get critical warnings,
and plan where to seek shelter if your home is in the path of a
tornado or severe thunderstorm.


By Saturday evening, a robust z500 trough axis will be centered
over the southern Great Plains, driving a strong cold front across
central Louisiana and into the Deep South. Ahead of this front,
the 12z suite of operational guidance continues to depict a 55-65kt
LLJ, which will funnel a continuous stream of Gulf moisture into
the prefrontal environment...allowing QLCS activity to proceed
intact all the way across Alabama and Georgia...showing no signs
of deterioration as it approaches our forecast area.

One big question mark still remains regarding the onset of
convection Saturday night. This morning is the first time
we`ve had a full collection of high-res CAM sources to look at,
and there`s still some question over the possibility of some
warm-sector convective initiation over the western Upstate late
Saturday evening - around or after sunset - as the first waves
of strong synoptic forcing begin. Successive runs of the HRRR
and RAP keep hinting at this possibility - and if it pans out,
these storms will develop in a weakly-unstable but highly-sheared
environment with 0-1km on the order of 250+ m2/s2...more than
enough to expect mini-supercells posing a tornadic risk. The 12z
high-res windows and the NAMnest are much less jazzed about this
idea...and with all the ingredients necessary it may wind up being
a waiting game to see whether this activity materializes.

Whatever the case may be Saturday evening, confidence becomes
much higher toward midnight and thereafter that a well-organized
QLCS will advance out of north Georgia and the Tennessee Valley.
By the time it arrives in the western Carolinas, it`ll have
propagated well downstream of its parent frontal circulation,
which may still be located as far west as the MS-AL state line.
It`s typical in these strong WAA situations for the boundary
layer to remain well-mixed even at night...and so guidance sources
paint a deceptively stable- looking picture of the atmosphere with
sbCAPE forecasts...but MLCAPE, which in this case may be a much
better metric...surges to 300-400 J/kg over much of the region
as the system arrives. The aforementioned LLJ should still be
intact at this time, and this combined with the advancing upper
trough will provide extensive shear. 0-3km shear vectors will
be oriented a solid 60 degrees relative to the advancing QLCS,
which will support a mixture of continued linear-mode convection
alongside discrete cells ahead of the main line. 0-1km SRH,
meanwhile, could attain values in excess of 200 m2/s2 even as
the LLJ starts to deteriorate. All that to say, any discrete
convection will likely be supercellular in nature, posing a risk
of tornadogenesis; on top of this, we`re likely to see embedded
rotation within the trailing QLCS. The primary/most widespread
threat remains damaging winds, which could occur anywhere along
the QLCS, but tornadoes remain a close second.


Improving clarity, too, on QPF...with the eastern half of the
forecast area seeing an overall reduction in expected rainfall
(to less than an inch for the I-77 corridor) but the high terrain
in particular seeing an increase now that the high-res guidance
has become available. The 12z HREF estimates of 3-4 inches in 6
hours, and over 5 in 12 hours, are in line with multiple rounds of
convection affecting favored upslope zones, particularly across
the Smokies and Balsams. Concern remains moderate regarding
flood impacts, with the latest HEFS ensemble river forecasts still
depicting mainly action stage rises at worst (with the exception
of sites in the Smokies, which simply receive so much QPF that
action to minor stage flooding isn`t out of the question).
And, with storms looking to move so quickly in a highly-sheared
environment, most zones will steer clear of even localized flash
flooding...except for isolated locations where multiple rounds of
heavy rainfall take place. That`s to say, localized hydro issues
can`t be ruled out, but aren`t expected to pose a major issue.

&&

.LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/...
As of 219 PM EDT Friday...

Key Messages:

1) A second round of thunder is possible Sunday afternoon.

2) Clear and dry conditions will persist for the first half of
the week.

3) Rain will return Thursday and Friday.

The fun doesn`t end Sunday morning. The general thinking remains
that the main QLCS will exit GSP`s forecast area to the east by a
few hours after daybreak Sunday...but most of the CAMs have slowed
down the progression of the trailing frontal boundary as it becomes
ever more distant from its parent low. In fact, the 12z HRRR and
NAMnest slow it down so much that it`s still meandering across the
I-77 corridor on Sunday afternoon...late enough that the atmosphere
manages to destabilize again over the far eastern fringe of the
forecast area, producing yet another round of thunderstorms!
It`s unclear whether this will actually happen - this is wholly
dependent on the evolution of the main system Saturday night,
how much it saps the atmosphere of its energy, and how the timing
of both the squall line and the trailing frontal boundary set up.
But if it does, more aggressive models like the RDPS once again
depict some 100-250 J/kg sbCAPE (though with significantly
less-pronounced shear/SRH) supportive of at least a few strong -
maybe even some severe - storms in this mess. But, the key here
is that confidence is extremely low.

I'm not sure I have ever seen this in a GSP AFD before. This is serious business. This part is interesting too about the CAPE. They are saying SBCAPE may not matter as much as usual this time. They also are starting to mention the possibility of a 2nd round too.
I have never seen GSP that sound off like that on severe weather potential before. I wonder what discussions would have looked like before 5/5/1989
 
I'd expect some over performance on the Eastern edge of things... IIRC, 2011 kept on producing/overperforming in to the night for area's further East when compared to the SPC predictions. That Atlanta to GSP region doesn't look to be worked over before the main event moves in Saturday night.
Usually these things die down once they hit that GA/SC line especially at night. I’d expect those of us in the upstate to be just fine other than some thunder and gusty winds.
 
Usually these things die down once they hit that GA/SC line especially at night. I’d expect those of us in the upstate to be just fine other than some thunder and gusty winds.
Usually we don’t have a Day 2 High Risk. This isn’t your typical run of the mill threat. Lock tf in.
 
Usually these things die down once they hit that GA/SC line especially at night. I’d expect those of us in the upstate to be just fine other than some thunder and gusty winds.
There is no scientific evidence that supports this theory. If you are are prepared for some thunder and gusty winds, that’s not a good idea. March 5th produced a F1 tornado in the CLT area and that came as a surprise to a many of us. This system is way stronger than the latter, so please don’t let your guard down.
 
There is no scientific evidence that supports this theory. If you are are prepared for some thunder and gusty winds, that’s not a good idea. March 5th produced a F1 tornado in the CLT area and that came as a surprise to a many of us. This system is way stronger than the latter, so please don’t let your guard down.
We had a good bit of damage in SC back in December too and that one was nothing like this one is going to be. Someone in the GSP CWA area will get 80+ wind gusts tomorrow night with these storms. I'd also expect 5-6 tornados in the GSP CWA too. We will not get it nearly as bad as AL and Miss, but it will be a rough in both Carolinas.
 
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