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Pattern January 2021 - Joyless January

The Pacific is killing us! This will not cut it.
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whatalife said:
The Pacific is killing us! This will not cut it.
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Yep, this is what I was concerned about earlier. It's possible to shoehorn in a marginal event for some areas with the kind of pattern we've seen, but we need some help out west for sure.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
This conducive of southeastern snow? Y’all ain’t seen nothing yet. Wait til our -NAO fades. Then you’ll know what pain really is.View attachment 66382
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You can't draw up something uglier. Not even sure that qualifies as a -NAO. Maybe just our usual eastern conus block extending further north than usual. Idk anymore.
 
Every winter it's the same... the LR models will tease us with arctic cold and energy poised to move into it in the 12-16 day range, then pull the rug out from under us at the 240 hr mark... so tired of this over and over and over
 
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ghost1 said:
Every winter it's the same... the LR models will tease us with arctic cold and energy poised to move into it in the 12-16 day range, then pull the rug out from under us at the 240 hr mark... so tired of the over and over and over
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Why it's pointless discussing anything past 5 days with the models and the pattern. Some mets were really hyping this month because of how the pattern looked in the long range, and it seems the great pattern for snow that some said was coming is never going to materialize. Even if it did it is getting harder and harder every winter now to actually get snow in a pattern that is suppoeed to be better for producing. I think that's why we see models showing storms past 5 days that never happen for most folks. They might have happened in the past in those setups, but these days it's just harder to score in the same setup.
 
Brick Tamland said:
Why it's pointless discussing anything past 5 days with the models and the pattern. Some mets were really hyping this month because of how the pattern looked in the long range, and it seems the great pattern for snow that some said was coming is never going to materialize. Even if it did it is getting harder and harder every winter now to actually get snow in a pattern that is suppoeed to be better for producing. I think that's why we see models showing storms past 5 days that never happen for most folks. They might have happened in the past in those setups, but these days it's just harder to score in the same setup.
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How many times are you going to say this? I’ve seen it at least three, possibly four, times from you. We get it.
 
No matter what the Atlantic looks like, I never ever want to see a western trough, especially a constant one. I was hanging in there when it looked like the EPO could be negative enough to bleed east with the cold. When we lost that though, its just over. Negative PNA and positive EPO is just lights out for us.

Hopefully we can get the mjo to go through the favorable phases in February to give us a chance to get the pacific right. But I'm prepararing myself to be shut out again this year.
 
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