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Iceagewhereartthou said:
Maybe I'm off on this, but I would think real hard about kayaking in the lower part of the state this time of year. I am sure people do it, but unless you have a lot of experience I would think gators could be a real problem.
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Saluda river is around 60 degrees year round so no gators there. Even in the low country where they live they're unlikely to ever bother you. Drunks on jet skis are a bigger danger down there.
 
ChrisAMB said:
Saluda river is around 60 degrees year round so no gators there. Even in the low country where they live they're unlikely to ever bother you. Drunks on jet skis are a bigger danger down there.
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I’ve seen them at Hilton Head and Charleston on land near ponds, especially on golf courses, and they just minded their own business and were in some cases just relaxing enjoying the sunshine. They weren’t the least bit threatening. Of course, I was staying at least 50 or so feet away from them.

Based on the low number of attacks on people, I assume they’re not dangerous as long as one doesn’t get very close/they don’t just attack people and largely avoid getting too close to humans. But wouldn’t there be times when folks accidentally get too close? I’d think there’d be more attacked just from that, especially in FL where there are >a million of them!
 
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ChrisAMB said:
Saluda river is around 60 degrees year round so no gators there. Even in the low country where they live they're unlikely to ever bother you. Drunks on jet skis are a bigger danger down there.
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I second this. I visit the county north of you quite often across the border (mom retired to Brunswick). Jet skiers more dangerous than gators no doubt, expecially on holiday weekends like the last one.

4th of July the worst (I'm sure you already knew that though 😏)

Not ALL of them mind you, but enough you gotta watch out. As for gators, agree with @GaWx. They want nothing to do with people unless you feed them or you're walking a small dog near the water's edge, which um. Don't do that obviously. LOL
 
GaWx said:
Thank you for this great info! When my roof was painted ~2 years ago, they had to remove the windshield and put it back. Do you think that despite that being 2 years ago and my having not had a leak until today that that still may have lead to today’s leak? Could it be that they didn’t reseal it well with urethane? And why is the rubber molding sticking up a bit where it leaked? That isn’t normal, right?

I’m thinking about calling them and then going there to have them look at it. What do you think?

I do have a sunroof. Although I don’t know if my sunroof channels have been cleaned recently, the water wasn’t streaming in from where the sunroof is. It was coming inside in front of the sunroof where my lights and sunroof controls are near where the roof meets the windshield). That’s why I was suspecting the seal between the windshield and roof. The inside of the sunroof and the moonroof were both dry.
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The molding is likely not the original molding since the windshield had to be removed and re installed. It looks like it is a universal molding, they aren't very good and over time they will come up as they use essentially 3m double sided tape to adhere it to the windshield. Check for the DOT stamps on your windshield in either the driver or passenger side corner, it will tell you if its the original windshield and will have the vehicle branding.

Since the windshield has been removed and replaced, the possibility is definitely higher now that the urethane is not making good contact with the pinch-weld and is leaking. However, in my experience, if that was the case the leak would have been apparent much sooner.

First thing I would do is open the sun roof and look at the drain holes, there is likely two at the front, and two in the rear, ignore the rear ones. With a garden hose and an adjustable nozzle I would run a slow stream of water into the catch pan by the front drain holes and make sure the water is coming out down by the front wheels. If water is not pooling and overflowing into the headliner, the drains are fine. This pretty much sums it up and you take it back to the shop and demand a new install.

If you wanted to know for sure though there is another trick to see if the windshield is leaking. This involves having compressed air via an air compressor, not the canned stuff. Spray a foaming agent like water and soap mix, or even the bubble wand mix. Spray it on the top part of your windshield on the outside across the molding from driver side to passenger side and from the inside spray compressed air along the headliner from driver side to passenger side. Have someone look for the air blowing bubbles on the outside, if there are bubbles forming, there's a leak.
 
vtrap90 said:
The molding is likely not the original molding since the windshield had to be removed and re installed. It looks like it is a universal molding, they aren't very good and over time they will come up as they use essentially 3m double sided tape to adhere it to the windshield. Check for the DOT stamps on your windshield in either the driver or passenger side corner, it will tell you if its the original windshield and will have the vehicle branding.

Since the windshield has been removed and replaced, the possibility is definitely higher now that the urethane is not making good contact with the pinch-weld and is leaking. However, in my experience, if that was the case the leak would have been apparent much sooner.

First thing I would do is open the sun roof and look at the drain holes, there is likely two at the front, and two in the rear, ignore the rear ones. With a garden hose and an adjustable nozzle I would run a slow stream of water into the catch pan by the front drain holes and make sure the water is coming out down by the front wheels. If water is not pooling and overflowing into the headliner, the drains are fine. This pretty much sums it up and you take it back to the shop and demand a new install.

If you wanted to know for sure though there is another trick to see if the windshield is leaking. This involves having compressed air via an air compressor, not the canned stuff. Spray a foaming agent like water and soap mix, or even the bubble wand mix. Spray it on the top part of your windshield on the outside across the molding from driver side to passenger side and from the inside spray compressed air along the headliner from driver side to passenger side. Have someone look for the air blowing bubbles on the outside, if there are bubbles forming, there's a leak.
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Thank you for all of your info. That body shop asked me to leave the vehicle with them one day next week for a several hour long water flow testing. They said that it’s difficult to tell without that. Also, the pic of where it got wet inside was inconclusive to them. If I were to get a chance, I may try some of the things you mentioned before taking it to them.
 
Bham 99 said:
The last Modoki was a dud, at least in Charlotte, where I lived at the time. Is there really talk of this being in modoki El Nino? If so that's the first I've heard of it.
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Im not trusting anything with "dooki" in the name.
 
I'll believe it when I see it on a big winter here next year unfortunately. Most of the analogs we've been flooded with Pacific air and very little snow

I hate it too but that's just the problem with these big super el ninos. There's a point where it's too much and we seem to be headed down that path

I'm still hoping against hope the el Nino is like everything else has been and way overhyped but with our luck it won't be

The only maybe good news I see is I find it hard to believe that we would torch the entire winter outside of one week again??? I mean the one weekend is the only thing that saved last winter from being totally abysmal here
 
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It's frustrating how people pop out that every nino is going to be a modoki and snow copiously in the eastern us. Chances are this one will not be a modoki but it doesnt mean that it wont snow a lot. There are some signs that it will peak in the SON or OND period then begin to wane which would bode well for the time after MLK day
 
vtrap90 said:
The molding is likely not the original molding since the windshield had to be removed and re installed. It looks like it is a universal molding, they aren't very good and over time they will come up as they use essentially 3m double sided tape to adhere it to the windshield. Check for the DOT stamps on your windshield in either the driver or passenger side corner, it will tell you if its the original windshield and will have the vehicle branding.

Since the windshield has been removed and replaced, the possibility is definitely higher now that the urethane is not making good contact with the pinch-weld and is leaking. However, in my experience, if that was the case the leak would have been apparent much sooner.

First thing I would do is open the sun roof and look at the drain holes, there is likely two at the front, and two in the rear, ignore the rear ones. With a garden hose and an adjustable nozzle I would run a slow stream of water into the catch pan by the front drain holes and make sure the water is coming out down by the front wheels. If water is not pooling and overflowing into the headliner, the drains are fine. This pretty much sums it up and you take it back to the shop and demand a new install.

If you wanted to know for sure though there is another trick to see if the windshield is leaking. This involves having compressed air via an air compressor, not the canned stuff. Spray a foaming agent like water and soap mix, or even the bubble wand mix. Spray it on the top part of your windshield on the outside across the molding from driver side to passenger side and from the inside spray compressed air along the headliner from driver side to passenger side. Have someone look for the air blowing bubbles on the outside, if there are bubbles forming, there's a leak.
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1. It’s got Honda DOT stamp on passenger corner of windshield.

2. I opened sunroof. Looking from inside, I think I found drain holes in front corners. I put a few spoons of water near them but I don’t think the water drained out. I’m not sure whether I did the test correctly though. It’s not easy for me to get the water in there and see what’s going on.

3. Then I happened to notice a 100% loose rubber piece that’s the width of the vehicle in the very front of the sunroof panel! It looks like a piece of weatherstripping/molding. I literally could lift it out if I wanted to as it’s not attached to anything. It appears that the adhesive is no longer holding it in. Does that tell you anything? Keep in mind though that the leak was not coming from the sunroof. So, perhaps I happen to have two independent issues!
I’m going to leave it in there and show it to the body shop Thu.

When this body shop painted my roof, they had to take the windshield off as I said. But they also had to disassemble the sunroof to some extent if I’m recalling correctly. I wonder if this loose rubber strip is due to them being careless in reassembling it. Opinion?

Here are pics of it (not greatest pics): 2nd pic is with me lifting it up some:
 

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The 🐐 is going to be 30 min away and I can’t make it! 😢😢😢🐐IMG_5719.png
 
The next 3 months are by my far my least liked months of the year. I can tolerate it for just a bit and then I am over it. Thankfully I enjoy smoking meats, cutting grass, beers by the pool, and shooting fireworks for the 4th, but I cannot wait for football, chilly nights, the smell of a fire, and then finally chasing phantom snowstorms.
 
GaWx said:
1. It’s got Honda DOT stamp on passenger corner of windshield.

2. I opened sunroof. Looking from inside, I think I found drain holes in front corners. I put a few spoons of water near them but I don’t think the water drained out. I’m not sure whether I did the test correctly though. It’s not easy for me to get the water in there and see what’s going on.

3. Then I happened to notice a 100% loose rubber piece that’s the width of the vehicle in the very front of the sunroof panel! It looks like a piece of weatherstripping/molding. I literally could lift it out if I wanted to as it’s not attached to anything. It appears that the adhesive is no longer holding it in. Does that tell you anything? Keep in mind though that the leak was not coming from the sunroof. So, perhaps I happen to have two independent issues!
I’m going to leave it in there and show it to the body shop Thu.

When this body shop painted my roof, they had to take the windshield off as I said. But they also had to disassemble the sunroof to some extent if I’m recalling correctly. I wonder if this loose rubber strip is due to them being careless in reassembling it. Opinion?

Here are pics of it (not greatest pics): 2nd pic is with me lifting it up some:
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You'll need more water than a few spoons, literally need running water from a hose or a pressurized sprayer.

The leak might not be coming in from the sunroof opening, if it is leaking from there, it will travel along the roof panel, like when you pour water out of a glass and it sticks to the side before it drips, and then leak into the car once it hits the urethane barrier.

Hopefully they can figure it out, but i'll put my 2 cents on the sunroof.
 
vtrap90 said:
You'll need more water than a few spoons, literally need running water from a hose or a pressurized sprayer.

The leak might not be coming in from the sunroof opening, if it is leaking from there, it will travel along the roof panel, like when you pour water out of a glass and it sticks to the side before it drips, and then leak into the car once it hits the urethane barrier.

Hopefully they can figure it out, but i'll put my 2 cents on the sunroof.
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You were 100% correct! The two front holes and surrounding areas were clogged with a lot of dirt/soot that was caked on. They had to take the wind visor off as well as another piece to be able to get the water in there good and to get to the holes with whatever they were using to clear them. This was nothing I was ever going to be able to handle on my own. It took two hours while I waited, but they charged for only one hour labor, $125, which was quite reasonable. The dealer likely would have charged me $400-500 and would have needed to keep it all day.

The windshield was fine/no leaks from it.

That loose rubber piece at the front of the sunroof panel that had become unglued was there to keep rattling down and had nothing to do with keeping water out. They took it out and said I really didn’t need it, especially because I don’t hear rattling without it. They couldn’t replace that piece anyway and said Honda would need to. Forget it since not needed.

The next thing to consider is a paint job of both sides and the back. The clear coat is breaking down and there are increasingly evident ugly faded spots that will only keep getting worse. The sun is relentless! They already had painted the hood and roof 2 years ago and that was $3K, which actually was reasonable compared to others and considering their thorough job (6 coats of paint!). The value of the vehicle actually rose at least $3K.

It’s a 2012 but has only 71K miles on it. I need to decide if I can justify spending what I bet would be at least another 3K and possibly 5K+ to basically paint the rest of the vehicle. I find it hard to believe that the value would rise that much this tube. But I love it otherwise and have been maintaining it per recommendations. So, I’ll consider it unless I go to get an el cheapo paint at Maaco, which few people recommend as it won’t hold up.
 
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GaWx said:
In comparison, that’s not too bad in ATL. Helped by wet soils? Then again, I thought upstate SC and Augusta also had good rains.
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Not that I really trust the doofus, but it really only has 1 scary day for June to me and it's out near hour 240.

I stopped there. I should learn to do that even with winter weather (granted with the surprising couple winters we've had, I've observed the board before jumping in, but sheesh, before 1/31, I got overly hyper fixated and ick...what I did to try and kill some time on the Friday before really did NOT help me out).
 
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