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Misc General Banter Thread

Ward Cleaver said:
Thanks, my friend!

My wife and I would normally just take the flight we had originally scheduled and not really sweat it. Because who doesn’t mind being stranded on a tropical Caribbean island with great food. LOL

But our parents are aging—my mother lives alone after my father died—and we’re the only household within our extended family with a wholehouse generator. So we have people relying on us.

We went ahead and checked in for tomorrow’s flight. Our big concern is—even if the arrival of the winter mess is delayed in NC—there’s no guarantee that the airline won’t have to juggle equipment around due to upstream delays and cancellations elsewhere in the system. This is a big storm of course and they could cancel Saturday’s flight regardless of conditions at CLT.
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I think you made the right call, although cutting a vacation short is a call I've never had to make so I can imagine how difficult that must be! You may very well have been fine coming back on Saturday, but it's definitely a risk and it's really hard to forecast the exact starting time at this juncture!
 
tempo47 said:
Every 30 minutes i check i hear something different for ATL lmao
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When people mention Atlanta, its a 100 mile diameter swath with various elevations. I am going to take the hi-rez models with a grain of salt until they are inside of 54 or 60 hours. The globals are pretty much in alignment now that the freezing line gets close to the Alabama line down to central Georgia, and over toward Augusta. Where the CAD breaks on Sunday is unknown at this time and shouldn't be assumed. High temperatures Sunday could be anywhere from 35 to 60 south and west of town, TBD.
 
In a power outage with single-digit nights, your primary options are to either use temporary insulation and alternative heat sources or, most effectively, to drain the water from your plumbing system.

Option 1: Temporary Measures
If you still need access to water and the outage is expected to be short, try these steps:
  • Insulate exposed pipes: Wrap any exposed pipes in unheated areas (attics, crawl spaces, garages, under sinks) with towels, blankets, or even newspaper and plastic wrap to provide a temporary barrier against the cold.
  • Open cabinets: Open kitchen and bathroom cabinet doors to allow warmer internal air (from alternative heat sources) to circulate around the pipes within the walls.
  • Use alternative heat sources safely: If you have a fireplace, wood stove, or a safe, well-ventilated kerosene/propane heater, use it to warm the central living space, allowing some warmth to reach vulnerable areas. Never use open-flame devices near pipes or in enclosed areas without proper ventilation due to fire and carbon monoxide hazards.
  • Let faucets trickle (if you still have running water): A slow, steady stream (about the width of a pencil, not just a drip) from the faucet farthest from the main water supply can keep water moving and help prevent ice blockages. Collect the running water in buckets for later use to save water.

Option 2: Draining the System (Most Effective for Prolonged Outages)
If the power outage is prolonged and temperatures remain extremely low, the safest method is to drain the plumbing system completely to prevent bursting pipes:
  1. Locate and shut off the main water valve: This stops all new water from entering the house.
  2. Drain the pipes: Start at the top of the house and open all faucets (hot and cold) and flush all toilets several times. This allows the water in the lines to drain out.
  3. Drain the water heater: If you have an electric water heater, turn off its power supply first. For a gas heater, turn off the gas supply line. Then, drain the tank through its drain valve.
  4. Protect drains and toilet bowls: Pour a small amount of non-toxic plumbing antifreeze into drains and toilet bowls to prevent the water remaining in the traps from freezing.
 
Ward Cleaver said:
Thanks, my friend!

My wife and I would normally just take the flight we had originally scheduled and not really sweat it. Because who doesn’t mind being stranded on a tropical Caribbean island with great food. LOL

But our parents are aging—my mother lives alone after my father died—and we’re the only household within our extended family with a wholehouse generator. So we have people relying on us.

We went ahead and checked in for tomorrow’s flight. Our big concern is—even if the arrival of the winter mess is delayed in NC—there’s no guarantee that the airline won’t have to juggle equipment around due to upstream delays and cancellations elsewhere in the system. This is a big storm of course and they could cancel Saturday’s flight regardless of conditions at CLT.
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Coming from 35 years of flying experience. (Was a crew member for 15)

Here's some tips. Go ONLINE first. While you are online or chat, stand in line at the ticket counter. Have MULTIPLE options going at the same time.

Airlines are all about asset positioning. If a big storm (hurricane of ice) Airlines are about financial loss mitigation. So, they move the assets OUT of the storm. Meaning, they ground them, or more than likely move them. The key is to keep the grid moving outside of the storm as much as possible.

If I had a penny for each time I've heard "Well, it's not snowing in San Diego!". Right, but...the plane has been moved to a) avoid the storm and potential damage to a very expensive plane AND to keep the infastructure moving and READY when it's all over.

Final point. Example: CLT. No way does American try to keep most of their assets in CLT, because they lose all potential revenue with a locked down airport. Locked down planes etc.

So, if your flight is cancelled....it's because the entire web of all the airlines trying to protect and recover quick.

Hope that helps any newbies looking to fly.
 
J.C. said:
When people mention Atlanta, its a 100 mile diameter swath with various elevations. I am going to take the hi-rez models with a grain of salt until they are inside of 54 or 60 hours. The globals are pretty much in alignment now that the freezing line gets close to the Alabama line down to central Georgia, and over toward Augusta. Where the CAD breaks on Sunday is unknown at this time and shouldn't be assumed. High temperatures Sunday could be anywhere from 35 to 60 south and west of town, TBD.
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I think its pretty much a guarantee that places like Carrollton and Newnan will be well above 32 at some point on Sunday.
 
J.C. said:
When people mention Atlanta, its a 100 mile diameter swath with various elevations. I am going to take the hi-rez models with a grain of salt until they are inside of 54 or 60 hours. The globals are pretty much in alignment now that the freezing line gets close to the Alabama line down to central Georgia, and over toward Augusta. Where the CAD breaks on Sunday is unknown at this time and shouldn't be assumed. High temperatures Sunday could be anywhere from 35 to 60 south and west of town, TBD.
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Im in walton closer to athens so ill just assume ill see some type of freezing precip at this point
 
tempo47 said:
Im in walton closer to athens so ill just assume ill see some type of freezing precip at this point
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You are in the category of how much, not if. You are also in the category of possibly not reaching freezing Sunday before the winds shift to the NW. It will be interesting to see how this low pressure battles the CAD, and how far it gets before the full transfer to the coast. Its a great game for everyone to watch.
 
Frosty has got the green light.
Ready, but hope I don’t need it.
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weatherfide said:
Yeah, because it brings the Arctic down. Highs below freezing all week in Atlanta with lows in the single digits some nights. Ouch! Especially if power is knocked out Sunday.
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I don't see any Forecast Highs for Atlanta below 32 next week. The coldest I see is Monday at 32 and then warming in to the mid to upper 40s by Wednesday.
 
..oh gosh if the GFS has been on the ball here. It shows me struggling to get above freezing for pretty much the entirety of Sunday. If it’s too warm by a degree or two, I could end up being mainly freezing rain. 🤦‍♀️ (and as is, the run is a disaster here)

In the meantime, my NWS has now bumped my projected high to 54 for Sunday. I’m scratching my head a little here. Even if the warmer ideas work out, I don’t see it getting warmer than the 40’s until maybe early Monday morning.
 
Funny story I saw last night people said it may take up to 4 runs to get True data from that Recon….. 36hrs to Kickoff that’s basically 4 model Suites, everyone go measure 100 miles North on the map ….. 4 small 25 mile bumps and that’s what you’ll get.

Edit : 0Z/12Z mean more imo


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