Misc Gardening Thread

[Tarheel1]

Almost looks like Deodor cedar, sort of?

 

[LickWx]

I noticed them years ago and had to ask around because I knew they weren’t native. Some old local told me. I always take a few twigs and use them as air freshener in my truck when I go up there to pick ramps.

Impressive they are alive and doing well. That part of Georgia even at that elevation is going to have rather warm summers with highs in the lower 80s.

 

[EmersonGA]

Impressive they are alive and doing well. That part of Georgia even at that elevation is going to have rather warm summers with highs in the lower 80s.

It’s stretching it but most of them are over 4000 feet there so they probably get the required cold hours.

 

[J.C.]

Impressive they are alive and doing well. That part of Georgia even at that elevation is going to have rather warm summers with highs in the lower 80s.

I think its kind of like the white pines that grow like weeds around the lake I go to at 1074' of elevation on the north facing slopes. Actually, the lowest elevation I've seen white pines in Georgia is 700' where state route 136 winds down from 1200' to 700' heading toward Chatsworth, the north facing slope is steep enough to prevent to much direct sunlight. Its all about soil moisture and temperature. Where I found that fir was deep in a ravine that doesn't get a lot of direct sunlight, plus the soil is kept cooler due to the creek.

Another example of this is on the northside of Carters Lake, again around 1100', where you have rhododendrons growing because of the steep grade thwarting direct sun, and the air cooled by the cold water.

 

[J.C.]

It’s stretching it but most of them are over 4000 feet there so they probably get the required cold hours.

I'm not aware of what their cold requirements are, but here is a station at only 3250'at the top of the Atlanta metro in January and July. I'd probably shave off a few more degrees at 3500-4000', and slightly northwest.

 

[EV/WS]

Need y’all’s help. I can’t figure out what is wrong with my knock out roses. This time of year they’re normally in explosive Red buds. I can take more photos if needed. I know @Tarheel1 has a pretty green thumb. Thanks in advance.

 

[Tarheel1]

Yeah, they are usually putting on a fall flush now. I’m not sure what is going on with them. It looks like disease. Has it been super wet?? Or are they getting more shade than they used to?? They are fairly trouble-free, except for rose rosette disease, and it doesn’t look like that’s the problem.
Maybe take some close up of the worst leaves!
Have you sprayed round up or any thing nearby?? Could have drifted onto the leaves if you were spraying relatively close?

 

[Tarheel1]

There’s some fungus or disease on a few of the leves( the brown circles) on the green leaves. Almost looks like anthracnose.

 

[EV/WS]

There’s some fungus or disease on a few of the leves( the brown circles) on the green leaves. Almost looks like anthracnose.

I appreciate your reply. No overspray and normal precip. Are some leaves supposed to be maroon in color? Wonder if I leave it alone and hope for the best.?..

 

[SD]

Need y’all’s help. I can’t figure out what is wrong with my knock out roses. This time of year they’re normally in explosive Red buds. I can take more photos if needed. I know @Tarheel1 has a pretty green thumb. Thanks in advance.

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Rip.

Seriously though I don't think it's rosette disease so that's good and it may be black spot which isn't super harmful. I'm big on hitting plants with a fungus killer after my battle last year with it in my yard but it's up to you. I just hate having struggling plants in the fall it makes them susceptible to winter injury and new diseases in spring

 

[Tarheel1]

I appreciate your reply. No overspray and normal precip. Are some leaves supposed to be maroon in color? Wonder if I leave it alone and hope for the best.?..

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A symptom of Rose Rosette disease is a flush of burgundy new growth, it’s especially fleshy, so it may be the beginning stages of the disease. Roses are such a pain and so much work to keep looking good. There’s a newer variety I’ve read about under the name OSO Easy, maybe look at them? In my 15 years at the house I only planted one rose bush and it was because it was givin to me as a present. And it was a sunshine yellow or something like that, never sprayed or did anything other than prune and it gave me 20-40 flowers a season! Just don’t like hard work in the garden!??

 

[WeatherNC]

I appreciate your reply. No overspray and normal precip. Are some leaves supposed to be maroon in color? Wonder if I leave it alone and hope for the best.?..

New growth on rose plants are deep maroon in color, your plants are struggling and I agree with the above it's fungal, likely anthracnose. I would look at near by trees to find a source, based on your images they go hit hard by spores, and a broad spectrum anti-fungal like Daconil is probably too late this season (it won't hurt), but certainly needed next season and also against the source (probably a shade tree in the vicinity, sycamores are common spreaders around here). You can dig up a small portion of the root, just to make sure it is healthy and not a more systemic issue. Here in NC, we have the local extension offices, they are my go to for tougher issues and always eager to help.based

Also, I would trim it, based on best practice, after the first freeze. You can be somewhat liberal with the pruning, roses are resilient and like an annual cutting.

 

[Tarheel1]

Rose rosette ‘ red’ flush , as a sign of the diseased plant

 

[crecre9]

Anyone here into trees? My coast redwood is doing great. Its probably grown more than a meter this year. its about 2.5 m tall now after just its second year in my yard. I got it from a TN nursery in fall 2020. I don't know how old it was then, but it was only about 0.5 m tall at that time.

 

[WeatherNC]

Anyone here into trees? My coast redwood is doing great. Its probably grown more than a meter this year. its about 2.5 m tall now after just its second year in my yard. I got it from a TN nursery in fall 2020. I don't know how old it was then, but it was only about 0.5 m tall at that time.

Just to confirm, you are growing a true redwood in AL?

Coast Redwoods

Coast Redwoods Facts Coast Redwoods Facts FACT WHERE COMPARE Tallest Tree: 380 feet Redwood National and State Parks As tall as a 37-story building Widest Tree: 29.2 feet Redwood National and State Parks The length of 2 Volkswagen Beetles Remaining …

www.savetheredwoods.org

 

[EmersonGA]

Anyone here into trees? My coast redwood is doing great. Its probably grown more than a meter this year. its about 2.5 m tall now after just its second year in my yard. I got it from a TN nursery in fall 2020. I don't know how old it was then, but it was only about 0.5 m tall at that time.

My uncle tried to grow one awhile back but it didn’t take well.

Just curious, why the metric?

 

[WeatherNC]

It’s a novelty tree, I know a ---- ton about trees, with an affinity for native old growth temperate rain forests, hard to describe once in it. While I cannot speak for AL, white and swamp chestnut oaks are my go to, along with bald cypress, potent native combos.

Big Lonely Doug - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Tarheel1]

Yeah, redwoods don’t like the high heat and oppressive humidity. They like the cool, misty mountains of the West and NW us. Bald Cupress as NC stated, are great trees and can get huge and have the cool ‘ knees’ and there are different cultivars, like a weeping type and I’m sure some other variants, trees are cool!
Deodar cedar, is another great tree, with some awesome cultivars, to give you that look!

 

[crecre9]

Yeah, redwoods don’t like the high heat and oppressive humidity. They like the cool, misty mountains of the West and NW us. Bald Cupress as NC stated, are great trees and can get huge and have the cool ‘ knees’ and there are different cultivars, like a weeping type and I’m sure some other variants, trees are cool!
Deodar cedar, is another great tree, with some awesome cultivars, to give you that look!

I considered a deodar cedar. May get one eventually, but I'm kind of out of space at my current house. i have a 10 year old blue spruce and a young norway spruce as well.

 

[crecre9]

It’s a novelty tree, I know a ---- ton about trees, with an affinity for native old growth temperate rain forests, hard to describe once in it. While I cannot speak for AL, white and swamp chestnut oaks are my go to, along with bald cypress, potent native combos.

Big Lonely Doug - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

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That is an impressive tree!

 

[crecre9]

My uncle tried to grow one awhile back but it didn’t take well.

Just curious, why the metric?

I'm on a multi-year habit of using metric units. I generally try to use units that I know the person I am talking to will understand. Sometimes in written communication I use both. I probably should have used both for this post, but I guess I just forgot or didn't feel like it. I've been using metric for most woodworking projects for years now (other than home construction related stuff) and metric in exercise metrics (ha) for years as well. They say to be the change you want to see in the world, right?

 

[crecre9]

Just to confirm, you are growing a true redwood in AL?

Coast Redwoods

Coast Redwoods Facts Coast Redwoods Facts FACT WHERE COMPARE Tallest Tree: 380 feet Redwood National and State Parks As tall as a 37-story building Widest Tree: 29.2 feet Redwood National and State Parks The length of 2 Volkswagen Beetles Remaining …

www.savetheredwoods.org

I can't speak for the genetics of the specific specimen the TN nursery provided to me, but it certainly appears to be a true redwood (sequoia sempervirens). Now, could it be from a more inland cultivar that sees higher temperatures? Possibly.

 

[Tarheel1]

I considered a deodar cedar. May get one eventually, but I'm kind of out of space at my current house. i have a 10 year old blue spruce and a young norway spruce as well.

Blue Spruce looks great! They usually struggle in the South, outside of the mountains. I’ve seen many planted and dead within a few years around Greenville in the past, but they thrive around Asheville and the mountains, and they are WVERYWHERE up here!

 

[LickWx]

Bald cypress are awesome . There is a large swamp of them at Robertson millpond in Wendell. One of my faves. I like Tulip Poplars , Live oak , Bald cypress , and beech trees alot. Tulip Poplars get so insanely freaking tall and girthy! I think tallest tree in eastern us is a tulip poplar in the smokies . Man what a sight it would be to walk in an old growth forest of towering tulip poplar !!! My favorite forest type by far is coastal se . Love that environment with the oaks and moss . Going camping in goose creek state park which is filled with the live oaks , moss , and Sabal minor .

 

[crecre9]

Here's a picture. It can be tough to get a good picture due to it blending in with background vegetation. The redwood is in nearly full sun but I planted the blue spruce in a way that it's shaded in the afternoon.

 

[Tarheel1]

Bald cypress are awesome . There is a large swamp of them at Robertson millpond in Wendell. One of my faves. I like Tulip Poplars , Live oak , Bald cypress , and beech trees alot. Tulip Poplars get so insanely freaking tall and girthy! I think tallest tree in eastern us is a tulip poplar in the smokies . Man what a sight it would be to walk in an old growth forest of towering tulip poplar !!! My favorite forest type by far is coastal se . Love that environment with the oaks and moss . Going camping in goose creek state park which is filled with the live oaks , moss , and Sabal minor .

I’m going to see the redwoods in California, one day! Bucket list

 

[EmersonGA]

I'm on a multi-year habit of using metric units. I generally try to use units that I know the person I am talking to will understand. Sometimes in written communication I use both. I probably should have used both for this post, but I guess I just forgot or didn't feel like it. I've been using metric for most woodworking projects for years now (other than home construction related stuff) and metric in exercise metrics (ha) for years as well. They say to be the change you want to see in the world, right?

I hear you. I do a good bit of healthcare construction including installing MRI's and such so we deal a lot in metric. I haven't been able to make the change in woodworking though. I'm on the Christopher Schwarz train on that as the Imperial was made based on the human body and makes it easier to make things for us to use if that makes sense.

 

[Tarheel1]

Bald cypress are awesome . There is a large swamp of them at Robertson millpond in Wendell. One of my faves. I like Tulip Poplars , Live oak , Bald cypress , and beech trees alot. Tulip Poplars get so insanely freaking tall and girthy! I think tallest tree in eastern us is a tulip poplar in the smokies . Man what a sight it would be to walk in an old growth forest of towering tulip poplar !!! My favorite forest type by far is coastal se . Love that environment with the oaks and moss . Going camping in goose creek state park which is filled with the live oaks , moss , and Sabal minor .

 

[Tarheel1]

My go to Dubuque pic! ?

 

[J.C.]

My house sits on a quarter acre in northeastern Cobb County at 1135', I think most know roughly where that is around 20 miles NNW of downtown Atlanta as a the crow flies. My house was built in 1973, and the woman that lived here before us had let the entire back part of the lot become overgrown. I cleaned out all of the English Ivy and small trees. I left all the large trees, some small select trees, and planted a few more. I like total shade. I took a basic inventory of what I have, as you know this whole area is a transition zone.

Rough count of native trees, its pretty diverse, and very representative of what a forest around here would look like without all the clearing.

1. White Oak - 10
2. Scarlet Oak - 6
3. Mockernut Hickory - 5
4. Pignut Hickory -4
5. Black Oak - 2
6. Sourwood - 3
7. Red Maple -2
8. Beech - 4
9. Post Oak - 3
10. Black Tupelo - 3
11. Black Cherry - 3
12. Loblolly Pine - 1
13. Shortleaf Pine - 1
14. Red Cedar - 1
15. Tulip Poplar - 1
16. Virginia Pine - 1
17. Southern Red Oak - 1
18. Flowering Dogwood - 1
19. Virginia Pine - 1
20. Sweet Birch - 1

Planted

Virginia Pine - 8 (3 feet of growth in two years)
Red Maple - 1 (9 feet of growth in 4 years)
Eastern Hemlock - 1 (2 feet of growth in 2 years)

I'm considering planting some white pines in the understory since they are shade tolerant.

 

[WeatherNC]

Here's a picture. It can be tough to get a good picture due to it blending in with background vegetation. The redwood is in nearly full sun but I planted the blue spruce in a way that it's shaded in the afternoon.

It sure looks like a baby redwood, but as stated it's not going to grow well in Huntsville AL. They grow rapidly in a temperate oceanic climate, if you are looking for longevity I would replant a cypress or preferably a white oak type. Poplars are softwood and maples do not live as long as oaks or cypress, and both the previous mentions are gang busters for wildlife. Your Red (coastal) will not live beyond 20 years.

I have a stand of 12 bald cypress in my back acre, between 10 to 20 years old, they are already starting to sow offspring in the 600 acres behind me which is a highly conducive environment for them. In the front, mainly oak, 2 whites and 2 swamp chestnuts, about 15 years old, now producing acorns and the swamps are humungous, largest acorn of any oak species.

That is an impressive tree!

Indeed it is, ~13' in diameter, ~1000 years old, very challenging drive early Dec 2021 to see it, alone in a stand clearcut of his brothers that once stood. 97% of British Columbia's old growth rain forests have been logged, he stands as a symbol and should be protected. Active logging was noted in the area, including another virgin stand we visited in the area. Pretty sad.

 

[crecre9]

Its experimental, of course. I am aware its not in an appropriate climate. I will enjoy it while it grows. I'm kind of out of space at this property anyway, and won't be staying here more than a few more years. If I were to replace it I would consider a dawn redwood, which do well here.

 

[Arcc]

So far our fall garden is doing the best I’ve ever seen it.

 

[severestorm]

Brought the sugarcane indoors and beyond surprised it's still growing. Got a indoor sugar factory now

 

[WeatherNC]

Anyone else sow cover crops? I'm a big crimson red clover fan in the main beds, early to mid Sept, with cutting and tilling post peak in late March / early April after the pollinators had their fill.

 

[LickWx]

Anyone else sow cover crops? I'm a big crimson red clover fan in the main beds, early to mid Sept, with cutting and tilling post peak in late March / early April after the pollinators had their fill.

I’ve wanted to do so, haven’t gotten round to it but it’s too lat snow in the season.

 

[EmersonGA]

Anyone else sow cover crops? I'm a big crimson red clover fan in the main beds, early to mid Sept, with cutting and tilling post peak in late March / early April after the pollinators had their fill.

I’ve done it a couple times with very good results

 

[WeatherNC]

I’ve done it a couple times with very good results

During the offseason, I'd like to see some equipment. I own a 1025R, gatorade type tricked out. 2 Stihl CSs, 180 and 290, with a 500i on order. Also a FS 131, BG 86 CE.

 

[EmersonGA]

During the offseason, I'd like to see some equipment. I own a 1025R, gatorade type tricked out. 2 Stihl CSs, 180 and 290, with a 500i on order. Also a FS 131, BG 86 CE.

I've got a decent Stihl with a 20" bar. Can't remember the model but I love that thing and it will eat anything. My family has agreed to give me my grandfathers 50s era Farm All tractor to help with the garden dutys this spring. Its been covered but hasn't run in 20 years. As soon as we get a good freeze I'm going to get it transported up to the casa and get to work on that thing. I've been wanting to restore it for years.

 

[severestorm]

Brought the sugarcane indoors and beyond surprised it's still growing. Got a indoor sugar factory now

Update: it died. Root rot. Rather not water than water it, lesson learned. Trying again this season. Planting Grape, Coffee, Avocado, Fig, and Pineapple this year too