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Misc Gardening Thread

I grow mostly from seed but I do set out tomato, eggplant and at least a couple different varieties of pepper plants every year.
If you grow from seed I would stay away from preem. I tried to preem part of my yard then till in spring and plant bermuda and I still got 0 growth after breakingup the preem layer. There's also studies that suggest that pre-emergent interferes with root growth on young plants
 
Preemergeant has to be put out early for grass in the SE. I’m thinking February/early March. Dandelions and crabgrass start early!
 
Weed mat works well for tomatoes transplants but I prefer side dressing compost and fertilizer when the fruit sets. You can't do that with mat. Tilling under weeds and feeding is the way to go with tomatoes.
 
Any tips on pruning KO roses? I want to cut mine back before they take over
To maintain a size of 3–4' w x 3–4' h, Knock Out® Roses should be cut back once a year to 12” high. Check your rose bush from time to time in late winter/early spring, and when you start to see new shoots growing from the canes on your rose bush, that's a good sign that it's time to prune.
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February is a good rule of thumb to prune 99% of rose bushes!
KO were way over utilized, now a lot are getting rose rosette virus. An incurable fungal disease transmitted by aphids and such
 
Dig them up
People love a great looking, easy to grow shrub and trees! See (Leyland Cypress, Bradford pair, kO roses, and before most of yalls time, red tip photonia) they are great, until that disease finally gets to them or people realize how horrible of a plant they are! ( Bradford)
 
People love a great looking, easy to grow shrub and trees! See (Leyland Cypress, Bradford pair, kO roses, and before most of yalls time, red tip photonia) they are great, until that disease finally gets to them or people realize how horrible of a plant they are! ( Bradford)
I'm glad the red tips got zapped they sucked in spring time.

I'm a big fan of green giants now might use them to screen off the yard
 
I'm glad the red tips got zapped they sucked in spring time
You see a few here and there, but in the 70s/80s, I think every yard had one! Then I think some kind of blight wiped out 95% of all of them
 
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I'm glad the red tips got zapped they sucked in spring time.

I'm a big fan of green giants now might use them to screen off the yard
Good choice
Also don’t forget Arizona cypress! Give you a good 20-30 years! Almost fast as Leyland
 
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Good choice
Also don’t forget Arizona cypress! Give you a good 20-30 years! Almost fast as Leyland
I just looked up Arizona cypress. I am going to need a crap load of trees and shrubs for around the pool (not too close though). Privacy hedges etc. Probably gets too big but pretty for somewhere.
I don't understand why different websites put me in different zones. Some say 7 and some 8. This project is going to be overwhelming. Thanks for telling us about the Arizona. Need more ideas instead of the same ol same ol.
 
I'm glad the red tips got zapped they sucked in spring time.

I'm a big fan of green giants now might use them to screen off the yard
Green giants or emerald greens? I have planted both and are so different in size and how they look. I figured out I really have no need for such tall ones like the Green giants. Even for privacy. Love them both and the smell.....???

I have planted about 130 trees and shrubs around the property line. Green giants, Emeralds, Holly, Tea Olive, Cleyera, Maples, Florida Sunshines, Sunshine Ligustrums and another evergreen tree that starts with a C that I can't think of to save my life. It's a nice tree though.
The Emerald greens are so awesome...
 
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I just looked up Arizona cypress. I am going to need a crap load of trees and shrubs for around the pool (not too close though). Privacy hedges etc. Probably gets too big but pretty for somewhere.
I don't understand why different websites put me in different zones. Some say 7 and some 8. This project is going to be overwhelming. Thanks for telling us about the Arizona. Need more ideas instead of the same ol same ol.
If you planted for zone 8, you be fine. I always like to be in the middle of recommended zones on plants, example Deodar Cedar is zone 6-9, which thrives in your zones. I never liked to be in last recommended zone, like Alberta spruce 2-7, if that makes any sense, cause it usually means they don’t tolerate heat well
 
Green giants or emerald greens? I have planted both and are so different in size and how they look. I figured out I really have no need for such tall ones like the Green giants. Even for privacy. Love them both and the smell.....???

I have planted about 130 trees and shrubs around the property line. Green giants, Emeralds, Holly, Tea Olive, Cleyera, Maples, Florida Sunshines, Sunshine Ligustrums and another evergreen tree that starts with a C that I can't think of to save my life. It's a nice tree though.
The Emerald greens are so awesome...
Sunshine ligustrum is one of my new favorites! Great plant! Love tea olives also! Check out Newlifenursery, they are out of Pelzer SC, online and in person, good supply of unusual plants
 
THANK YOU! I never thought about not being on the edge of the zones. Makes perfect sense. Thanks for the nursery info too, will def check it out.
Isn't Sunshine ligustrum great? I planted some at the other house we build a couple of years ago and my husband delivers there still. He said they were beautiful. The ones I planted here struggled a bit but I think they will perk up when it gets warm this year.
Also, the Florida Sunshine is such a good healthy (almost succulent look) that LIKES SHADE OR PART SHADE. It's kin to the regular Anise shrub but more yellowy. Hard to get shady lovin stuff.
I'm researching now on what kind of palms would be good. I know a few do good in this zone. Would love a couple and try to mix some more tropical feel things around too for the pool, but still have the Thuja and evergreen stuff as well. Sort of hard to figure all of that out. Stuff cost alot too. YIKES.
Sunshine ligustrum is one of my new favorites! Great plant! Love tea olives also! Check out Newlifenursery, they are out of Pelzer SC, online and in person, good supply of unusual plants
 
I'm glad the red tips got zapped they sucked in spring time.

I'm a big fan of green giants now might use them to screen off the yard
I planted 15 after this past Christmas lol where it was so warm. Got a steal 5+ footers for 20 bucks each. I'll check in spring and see if they have anymore that cheap. You are about hour10 mins away from where I got them (Ramseur). Lowes/HD will charge you over 50-60 for one that size.
 
I just looked up Arizona cypress. I am going to need a crap load of trees and shrubs for around the pool (not too close though). Privacy hedges etc. Probably gets too big but pretty for somewhere.
I don't understand why different websites put me in different zones. Some say 7 and some 8. This project is going to be overwhelming. Thanks for telling us about the Arizona. Need more ideas instead of the same ol same ol.
Look into the "Baby doll" and "Little Gem" mini-magnolia trees. My neighbor went that route for privacy. They require little to no maintenance...ever. plus they smell delicious.
 
Oh wow. Never heard of those but will look. Sounds wonderful. Thanks!
Look into the "Baby doll" and "Little Gem" mini-magnolia trees. My neighbor went that route for privacy. They require little to no maintenance...ever. plus they smell delicious.
 
Look into the "Baby doll" and "Little Gem" mini-magnolia trees. My neighbor went that route for privacy. They require little to no maintenance...ever. plus they smell delicious.
Teddy bear is a good one too! Had it about 10 years only grew about 2-3’ of new growth and about a foot of width, from the time I planted it
 
@SD I've got these large circular areas in my centipede grass where the grass does not grow, started noticing it last year and seems a little more prevalent this year. One large area is around a tree but it's actually outside the shade of the branches and is about a 2 foot wide strip that encircles about 2/3 the tree. I've got a couple other circle dead spots too that aren't as large, one looks like a big zero in my yard. I'm sure it's some sort of fungus issue, is there a treatment and if so after treatment have to re-seed or plug it to have any chance of coming back? I know I really need to have soil samples I guess
 
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@SD I've got these large circular areas in my centipede grass where the grass does not grow, started noticing it last year and seems a little more prevalent this year. One large area is around a tree but it's actually outside the shade of the branches and is about a 2 foot wide strip that encircles about 2/3 the tree. I've got a couple other circle dead spots too that aren't as large, one looks like a big zero in my yard. I'm sure it's some sort of fungus issue, is there a treatment and if so after treatment have to re-seed or plug it to have any chance of coming back? I know I really need to have soil samples I guess
You can get a fungicide but it's not as easy to get it to work on centipede. Are these areas poor draining, exposed to extra nitrogen, compacted by something?
 
You can get a fungicide but it's not as easy to get it to work on centipede. Are these areas poor draining, exposed to extra nitrogen, compacted by something?
No drainage issue and not exposed to extra nitrogen..... the property was woods before we moved here 22 years ago and I've always wondered if the decaying matter in the soil had any effect on it. We cleared the land off in 2000 and they removed all stumps and as many roots as possible but I still think were deep roots/stump bases, etc that have decayed over time, it's been so long shouldn't be an issue now I wouldn't think though.
 
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@SD I should take pictures but the below image (not my lawn) is exactly what it looks like, so a fairy ring I guess?

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@SD I should take pictures but the below image (not my lawn) is exactly what it looks like, so a fairy ring I guess?

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Looks kind of like a fairy ring, fairy reign usually have mushrooms in the circle
 
Looks kind of like a fairy ring, fairy reign usually have mushrooms in the circle
Yeah funny thing is we get mushrooms in our yard in circles or right in a line like someone planted a row but it's not in these circles of dead grass. Also, that usually when it's much wetter than it is now.
Anyway I'm contemplating digging up those rings, removing all dead grass, about an inch of so of soil and filling it with good topsoil, then reseed and see what happens. Lot of work but might be about only thing can do ?‍♂️
 
Yeah funny thing is we get mushrooms in our yard in circles or right in a line like someone planted a row but it's not in these circles of dead grass. Also, that usually when it's much wetter than it is now.
Anyway I'm contemplating digging up those rings, removing all dead grass, about an inch of so of soil and filling it with good topsoil, then reseed and see what happens. Lot of work but might be about only thing can do ?‍♂️
I've been able to remedy one with aerating really well and fungicide
 
I've been able to remedy one with aerating really well and fungicide
Yeah, I’m not the best with turf grasses, but I do believe the fairy ring, is a fungus, it just somehow materializes as a ring of dead grass
 
Which fungicide did you use?

Good write up. It may have been the aerating and watering that really did the trick accordingto the above. Basically I stopped the spread then the turf was able to fill back in by the next season. I used propiconazole that I had around from some brown patch.
 

Good write up. It may have been the aerating and watering that really did the trick accordingto the above. Basically I stopped the spread then the turf was able to fill back in by the next season. I used propiconazole that I had around from some brown patch.
Also confirms my thoughts earlier about the dead roots, etc probably left in the ground when land was cleared when we moved there.
 
@SD I should take pictures but the below image (not my lawn) is exactly what it looks like, so a fairy ring I guess?

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This same thing happened in my parents centipede. I'd probably aerate and check the rest of the lawn for thatch to see if you might need to give the rest of the lawn a good dethatching. You can put down scotts disease ex or bayer advanced fungicide it'll likely take multiple apps to fully remedy the problem. Also lawn fungus is highly adaptive so if you use one product now you need to switch to a different active ingredient next time or it'll get resistant and you are wasting money.

Adding: if you are going to fertilize make sure you use the fungicide with the fertilizer app or before. Lawn fungus gets excited about nitrogen if you don't block it with fungicide it will go bonkers and proliferate through the lawn and be spread by the mower blades and discharged grass, I learned this this hard way
 
This same thing happened in my parents centipede. I'd probably aerate and check the rest of the lawn for thatch to see if you might need to give the rest of the lawn a good dethatching. You can put down scotts disease ex or bayer advanced fungicide it'll likely take multiple apps to fully remedy the problem. Also lawn fungus is highly adaptive so if you use one product now you need to switch to a different active ingredient next time or it'll get resistant and you are wasting money.
How much you charge to come take care of my lawn? I'll hit kylo up for a loan, thanks
 
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How much you charge to come take care of my lawn? I'll hit kylo up for a loan, thanks
Man I'm still recovering from my fungus attack last year and the recent cool. I spent too much time this weekend aerating and removing thatch. Not sure if I'd want this as job lol

Last questions do you ever water when it gets dry and if you do you have well or city water? I think the drought at the end of last summer set up a lot of spring issues this year.
 
Yeah funny thing is we get mushrooms in our yard in circles or right in a line like someone planted a row but it's not in these circles of dead grass. Also, that usually when it's much wetter than it is now.
Anyway I'm contemplating digging up those rings, removing all dead grass, about an inch of so of soil and filling it with good topsoil, then reseed and see what happens. Lot of work but might be about only thing can do ?‍♂️
Couple things about this the fungus lives in the soil so even if you rip out a half inch it still might be in the profile below that and it still may be present other areas in the lawn so it can easily be brought back into that area. I hate to sound like a salesman for the local sod farms but honestly if you go the removal and replace route you might want to look into a sod. When you look at drought and disease resistance natural centipede and bermuda are the worst, seed is in the middle, sod is the best. You can probably get 10 rolls of tifblair centipede from super sod for less than $100 to cover your issues. If I could do it all over again I would sod my yard vs seed I would also probably go with zoysia over bermuda/centipede
 
Man I'm still recovering from my fungus attack last year and the recent cool. I spent too much time this weekend aerating and removing thatch. Not sure if I'd want this as job lol

Last questions do you ever water when it gets dry and if you do you have well or city water? I think the drought at the end of last summer set up a lot of spring issues this year.
I generally do not water but I have well water. Centipede hates drought but it tends to come back fairly quickly one it gets rain. I've probably not done the best job caring for it over the last 22 yrs ?
 
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This whole grass discussion is reason enough to go au natural and let your yard become a prairie or desert! Too much time, money and chemicals, to try and keep a perfect lawn
 
This whole grass discussion is reason enough to go au natural and let your yard become a prairie or desert! Too much time, money and chemicals, to try and keep a perfect lawn
It's not that bad if you do the right things. Unfortunately automated sprinklers and 27-0-4 fertilizers exist and caused mega issues
 
It's not that bad if you do the right things. Unfortunately automated sprinklers and 27-0-4 fertilizers exist and caused mega issues
Yeah, it’s like anything else, it’s easier to keep in tip top shape, once you get it flawless! But there’s a lot of work involved and weeds can take over, seemingly overnight! When I had a lawn, keep everything short and it looks great! Until the Bermuda went dormant and it was still 90% green , because of dandelions!??
 
I’ll stick to a few annual pots of flowers and I’m good. Found some cool stuff this weekend around here! They do annuals hard and heavy up here!29F2424D-B81E-409B-BCC5-637459C574E6.jpeg69DACBD8-DA4E-4493-B0B2-324AC75F955F.jpeg142D036D-A2B4-4131-BCAB-92EA92DFC1B4.jpegEBD0007E-8B7E-42FD-BCF5-08F5F68DBB82.jpeg40CA5D27-1D67-46FB-BDA8-FEA09FB42C23.jpegDAC94475-8547-42D9-9199-1E5CE1468E59.jpegB6557384-737B-4E62-B210-E2F51C8A2C85.jpeg37EF3EC9-3B5F-4D1B-A0E4-7B4F18B87145.jpeg
 
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