Euro flat and dry at 105. But has a nice vort pass at 117. Dry with it as of right now. Just need the pig to dig.
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NBAcentel
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Canadian parallel, don’t know how good this bot is but it went the right direction as well 
wow
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It's like we play this scenario over and over in this time frame with potential winter storms.. energy over SW/Mexico ... polar s/w digging down. Will they or won't they? Fully phase or partial? Or completely miss and no precip north of ATL?
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
12z EPS is more amped compared to the 0z and yesterday’s 12z runs. Steadily moving towards the more amped GEFS/GFS/CMC camp
LukeBarrette
im north of 90% of people on here so yeah
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At this point you gotta be impressed with a rare GFS win. Not locked in yet, but it certainly is interesting that it had the system first.
CNCsnwfan1210
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Webberweather53
Meteorologist
Yeah the GFS has been wiping the floor with the euro out west here this fall with the last several waves.
The persistent mean ridging and generally progressive flow pattern out here has really exposed the Euro’s slow and medium to extended range -PNA bias
CNCsnwfan1210
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AJ1013
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Pathetic start to December here
packfan98
Moderator
I love this time of year!
NBAcentel
Member
Damn son 
NBAcentel
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And right on schedule the GFS is losing it. Just can’t have consistency on models or agreement to something can’t we ? 
Bigedd09
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I mean the euro hasn’t budged. It’s just a better model than the gfs
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packfan98
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It’s time for the GFS to lose it and start coming back to consensus on Saturday.
NBAcentel
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Euro is budging tho, towards it, or what was anyways
packfan98
Moderator
Yeah, and the EPS meteogram for Greensboro showed a good bump with more members having snow over 12z. I’ll ride with that for now and hope for the best. Fun times!
iwantsouthernsnow123
Member
Position of the system isn't bad but one thing's for sure.. We need a major cold air trend to get anything out of this one.
He must not be selling out to the whole mjo means cold thing. To be perfectly honest, neither have I. I'm pretty much alone in that though.
I just have to believe it's going to warm up sometime soon, if not but a few days.
Bigedd09
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Yeah mid December time frame I think we warm up for 4-5 days
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Grok and multiple models suites have said no.
Weather next 2 and a few model suites said yes.
The run to run changes of each model run isn't helping decipher much. What I do know is the mjo is supposed to stay in 8 for a while IF they aren't wrong, and history says freezer but I'm torn
Bigedd09
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I mean from what I can see is the ensembles generally agree on a mid month warm up with not a ton of huge run to run changes
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NBAcentel
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Welp the 18z EC/AI isn’t exactly inspiring
He’s been posting a lot of snow clickbait so far this early winter. On FB. It’s a little unlike him to post “Big Snow!” and it be snow maps and projections for storms accross the Ohio valley. I’m having a hard time understanding it
I think definitely a day or two of milder temperatures is possible, but with the MJO staying phase 8 to go along with a -NAO, -AO, it wouldn’t be much more than that. Also it looks like the PNA might head positive later next week as well
NBAcentel
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I mean it’s better but it’s getting to that range where drastic trends isn’t as drastic
Yeah, I hope you are correct. I like cold with at least some snow/ice chances...
If you remember though, two weeks ago, the ensembles were generally saying this week would be an all out torch and as late as early last week they were showing +NAO/+AO combo… both are negative right now
If we can get a negative nao and positive pna in phase 8 we might all get a white Christmas, true talk
Yeah I saw that and he’s been taking heat for it. Very unlike him.
I joined his new YouTube channel and he's trying to get a broader audience he says that he's got YouTube watchers from all over the country maybe that has something to do with it
Bigedd09
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The euro ai has been very steady on a warm up
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ducketta27
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Unfortunately Chris getting caught up in the click bait world, I think… 
No disrespect, I think you sometimes have to in order to gain a following these days…. But I’ve seen him put a few forecasts out a little too early lately and have to completely reverse course within 2-3 days. Last year’s southern/gulf snow was one of them… he thought it was a lock for a big upstate snow… we know what happened…
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No disrespect, I think you sometimes have to in order to gain a following these days…. But I’ve seen him put a few forecasts out a little too early lately and have to completely reverse course within 2-3 days. Last year’s southern/gulf snow was one of them… he thought it was a lock for a big upstate snow… we know what happened… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
iwantsouthernsnow123
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Well lets be completely honest here. Not sure how many people actually believed that was going to the gulf coast. Incredible.Unfortunately Chris getting caught up in the click bait world, I think…
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CNCsnwfan1210
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10 run trend GEFS baby stepping the ridge toward Alaska, also shrinking the trough over western Canada at the end.
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Twister
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He's been getting hammered a good bit for it too! I think the guy has literally fell off the Deepend. Anyone that believes him has fell off with him