I didn't see anything wrong with that first one. Basically the same look to me.
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Pattern Dazzling December
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bouncycorn
Meteorologist
Going to be a suppressed look but holy smokes what a setup Dec 23-27th...
Dang snow falling in mid 20’s for a lot people. That would some snow ratio of 15 to 1.
bouncycorn
Meteorologist
INSANELY close to spinning up something in the gulf...
Need that energy like 200 miles further west digging into west Texas
I've been honking the horn on this for a few days now. Literally the exact composite of our Major and Historic Snowstorms. The GFS would be a big dog if we could get that pesky TPV piece out of Canada. 
Isn’t this a Miller A setup?
Correct, there are some Miller Bs in the composite. However, the only large distinction is that a Miller B has a bit more ridging around the Great Lakes.
griteater
Member
I think both of these have potential. They both just need to dig and sharpen at the right spot. The first one looks to be super energetic so I think it will be tougher to keep it south. But who knows...things will change a lot between now and next week, could be for the better
Oh I know that, but my interest in the 2nd storm is much higher because the airmass in place
Damn the gefs still looks good 
ForsythSnow
Moderator
Was going to say the same. Not as insanely juicy but still better than 6z.
Big QPF increase this run
bouncycorn
Meteorologist
modernweenie
MichaelJ
Member
We REALLY need that western ridge to pump up from Tiny Tim to Arnold Swarzeneggar
griteater
Member
18z GEFS Members
Looks upper level trough related, interesting
Alright time for round 2 on the GEFS .. this one is the one I’m most interested in but it’s always nice to see we still have a shot at the first event