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94% of people listed as dyeing from corono usa, had underlying conditions that contributed to death. CDC
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USA is absolutely full to the brim with people who have underlying health conditions. So that stat really doesn't help us very much.
NoSnowATL
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True but it shows the real number of deaths from Covid. I wonder if they count flu deaths the same.
Shaggy
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They do. The number of deaths from flu is less than a couple thousand a year.
That's a good question. Not sure. The way I think about it is that most reasons somebody dies are actually brought on by a set of contributing factors. Covid is a contributing factor. Were it not here, those people who had other factors would probably still be alive. And who knows how many people are walking around with just the right set of background factors where Covid would be the last straw.
The bottom line for me is, you can't live in fear, but stats like the one above aren't very useful in allaying concern, in my mind anyway. If you told me that 94% of all Covid deaths were humpbacked people with gum disease and weighing 700 lbs, I'd feel better, I suppose.
Either way, it's wise to be cautious, especially if you know you are at higher risk. But we can't remain in lockdown forever either.
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They count flu the very same way. (i.e flu is not always the only cause listed ).
MichaelJ
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Well I am sad to say the business my wife and I started 32 years ago will close Oct 1st. We had small margins and having no revenue for 10 weeks plusthe large loan we now have to pay off is too much, we have lost 45,000 so far this year and our business is only back to 70% of pre Covid levels, just can't go on any more
I'm really sorry to hear this, Michael. Will be praying for your family through this difficult time.
Refela
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I am so sorry.
Steven_1974
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So what exactly did you want him to do different during a pandemic?
Be more like other states that had less restrictions and less cases. Instead of killing businesses.
smast16
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Lol Gyms at 30%.
Many gyms have opened today, or have already opened, including Planet Fitness and Gold's Gym, despite Cooper. He lost control of this aspect, and I feel like he's just sitting there going "OK FIINNEEE, UGH! Open at 30%"
I drive by a softball field and a softball and soccer field on the way home from work. These past few weeks, the bleachers have been slam full for games. I also drive by 2 cheerleader practice gyms, and like every other day these places are packed to the gills with kids and parents. So we can go to kids sporting events / practice, but not to the gym for myself?
Steven_1974
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Most of the states that had fewer restrictions ended up having to roll everything back because they got overrun. Cooper made the right call.
I’m not a McMaster fan, but I think for the most part he gets it.
www.foxcarolina.com
Outdoor, distanced visits allowed to begin at SC nursing homes & assisted-living facilities
Columbia, SC (FOX Carolina) - On Tuesday, Governor Henry McMaster and DHEC announced new guidelines to allow visitations to resume at nursing homes and assisted living facilities.
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Phase 2.5 is ridiculous. I don’t recall that as one of the options.
That's because it's all being made up as we go. After all, we're following the "science and data" (i don't believe either ever supported closing playgrounds, but... whatever).
LickWx
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Apparently I’m still positive for COVID despite being over 2 weeks past start of symptoms and not being sick in a long time. Doctor basically said ignore it , it’s as if you tested negative .
Guess what? I discovered someone in my circle who got COVID before me . 1 month ago my friend wasn’t feeling well and went to the doctor . He was told he had mono , but not covid .... turns out they made a mistake he was positive for covid . So one mistake from a doctor may have possibly given this thing to me and quite a few other people including my friends mom who is in the hospital still.
“ TrUSt ThE SCiEnCE”
Guess what? I discovered someone in my circle who got COVID before me . 1 month ago my friend wasn’t feeling well and went to the doctor . He was told he had mono , but not covid .... turns out they made a mistake he was positive for covid . So one mistake from a doctor may have possibly given this thing to me and quite a few other people including my friends mom who is in the hospital still.
“ TrUSt ThE SCiEnCE”
Steven_1974
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Ummm you can be sick with it for more than two weeks. The doctor said ignore it? That's crazy. You could still pass it on to people now. There's a reason why people need to have several tests in a row where it comes back negative to return to work or sports teams so they don't infect others.
Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be. (Published 2020)
The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus.
This probably explains why your doc said you are basically negative. Over-sensitivity of the basic test and viral load in the individual.
One of my foreman had it and the state health lady told him to not bother with a followup test. Once he served his two weeks she gave him a letter. She said he would show positive still but is good to go back to work. No one else has gotten it since.Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be. (Published 2020)
The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus.www.nytimes.com
This probably explains why your doc said you are basically negative. Over-sensitivity of the basic test and viral load in the individual.
Heelyes
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It could be like herpes, you never get rid of it and it flares up whenever your immune system is stressed.
Could be. Just like Mono or Malaria too.
NorthGaWinter4
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So I have covid and ive beat the fever and otherwise mild symptoms all but the loss of smell, been four days now. How long did it take y’all if y’all have had it? Starting to get concerned
Rosie
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Beat the bug!
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Try breast milk
My BIL is now just getting his taste back after two weeks.
Shaggy
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My SIL has been living with sarcoidosis for as long as I've know her. It certainly puts her at a higher risk.
Now the argument that is being made is that if she gets covid and passes away it wouldn't/shouldn't be counted as a covid death because she had an underlying condition.
A condition that has never put her in danger of dying....so it becomes an issue of the chicken or the egg. Tough question and one that's being politicized at every turn.
Ultimately, though, if she died it has to be a Covid death because she wouldn’t have died otherwise.
Shaggy
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Exactly which is why covid only being on 6% as the only cause of death is meaningless to me.
Yeah it may have killed someone with diabetes but unless diabetes was killing that person this week then it was the covid.
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It's really concerning the number of people posting that covid is a hoax because of that 6% stat. I'm so done with this ----. I want to go back to when I wasn't aware of how stupid some people are.
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Ignorance is bliss in more ways than one.
NoSnowATL
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I don’t think anyone here has called it a hoax.
Shaggy
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My cousin does medical research for a big name center in the USA. Shes been to Everest to study sherpas and Africa to study tribes that can run for 20 miles and literally run their prey to death.
She shared this study that is circulating and it's a good but long read. A little unnerving how efficient this virus CAN be in the people it hits hardest.
This came out a couple days ago so.maybe tall have already seen it
www.biospace.com
She shared this study that is circulating and it's a good but long read. A little unnerving how efficient this virus CAN be in the people it hits hardest.
This came out a couple days ago so.maybe tall have already seen it
Bradykinin Hypothesis of COVID-19 Offers Hope for Already-Approved Drugs | BioSpace
A group of researchers at Oak Ridge National Lab used the Summit supercomputer, the second-fastest in the world, to analyze data on more than 40,000 genes from 17,000 genetic samples related to COVID-19.
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Not necessarily on here. But I've got some pretty stupid friends on facebook who have used this as proof that it's fake/harmless
NoSnowATL
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Acute myocarditis is a well-known complication of influenza infection. So it happens when you get the flu as well but they hope you don’t know this fact.
Speaking of myocarditis, the doctors don’t think I have it, they think I’ve just had issues with anxiety (close to panic attacks at times), but I am seeing a cardiologist next week just to make sure I don’t have “post covid myocarditis” like what my main doctor said could maybe be, my EKG was normal tho so they are doubting it, my doctor said my heart sounds very strong to, which is good
Heelyes
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I don't know why they "hope you don't know" the flu causes it also but I do know it's much less frequent than 35 percent of the time, like what's happening with covid-19. Unfortunately like most things about this virus, it's too soon to say anything for certain about it's long term effects, because nobody has had it long term yet.
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