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pcbjr said:
zinc is a good mineral for keeping the immune system up; it is not a panacea ... ;)
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Yeah. Zinc is helpful, but sometimes failure of a totally healthy immune systems is derived from other sources. It isn't alway dietary.

BTW... Magnesium is a hugely important mineral for the immune system, especially when someone has just come off a night of heavy drinking. Most people don't get enough of it from food sources. It helps you sleep. Provides for better recovery while you sleep. Also help yours heart and kidneys.
 
This whole Covid thing is getting absurd ... the State publishing numbers, then revising them downward to fit a pattern 6 hours later (like yeah ... 100 died then it's only 53 a couple hours later ... or yeah ... 26 new infections in the County ... oops ... only 3) so to put it in personal perspective, and Mods, delete at will, but this is all I can come up with ...

 
pcbjr said:
This whole Covid thing is getting absurd ... the State publishing numbers, then revising them downward to fit a pattern 6 hours later (like yeah ... 100 died then it's only 53 a couple hours later ... or yeah ... 26 new infections in the County ... oops ... only 3) so to put it in personal perspective, and Mods, delete at will, but this is all I can come up with ...

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As the late-great-theologian Jerry Garcia once said, “What a long strange trip it’s been.”
 
GaWx said:
Did they play college football during the 1918 pandemic? To some extent, yes. And many of the fans wore masks at least at this Ga Tech game though they're not social distancing:

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https://www.si.com/college/tmg/tony-barnhart/spanish-flu

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To add on to this, there is definitely a long way to go but I heard today that the SEC is going to vote soon on when to allow athletes to return to campus for volunteer workouts. It would involve State gym protocols whenever it happens, but it's a sign they have plans on giving it a good shot.

Current idea unless things turn dark seems to be this:

 
NC has been locked down for several weeks and we have yet to see a drop in new cases. About 25% of the 16k cases are in congregate living places but that's not all the growth. Maybe if testing was at full capacity we would have seen a bigger peak at the end of April to early May. Are all these new cases coming from grocery stores...what the heck is going on.

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KyloG said:
NC has been locked down for several weeks and we have yet to see a drop in new cases. About 25% of the 16k cases are in congregate living places but that's not all the growth. Maybe if testing was at full capacity we would have seen a bigger peak at the end of April to early May. Are all these new cases coming from grocery stores...what the heck is going on.

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Yes, but as of today we are meeting the key metrics of advancing to the next phase. COVID-like symptoms at ERs are trending way down the past 14 days as well as the percentage of positive tests relative to the number of tests.
 
Surprised. 319 total does not include positive tests yet to be released by Matrix (private company for Tyson). Also 100 additional people being tested today at the third outbreak place in Wilkes.
 
Poimen said:
Yes, but as of today we are meeting the key metrics of advancing to the next phase. COVID-like symptoms at ERs are trending way down the past 14 days as well as the percentage of positive tests relative to the number of tests.
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Well that is one of the metrics...the 14 day rolling avg of new cases (see 14 day rolling avg below). It's not decreasing...and each day new cases are added to the previous 14 days and it keeps going up. I'm not saying we shouldn't advance to phase 2 but this is definitely concerning...we can't lockdown anymore than we have been. Unless they stop takeout food and restrict grocery stores to curbside pickup or something like that.

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Now up to 339 here. Multiple updates today with the state officials here helping.
 
I read somewhere positive antibody tests are now being included in the daily case counts for NC. Does anyone know if it’s true? It’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it makes it harder to compare to prior weeks if that’s the case and wouldn’t give as good of an idea of what the facts are on the ground on the day they’re reported, since the antibodies could’ve come from the person getting the virus a month ago. But I could be mistaken...don’t want to spread fake news..
 
KyloG said:
NC has been locked down for several weeks and we have yet to see a drop in new cases. About 25% of the 16k cases are in congregate living places but that's not all the growth. Maybe if testing was at full capacity we would have seen a bigger peak at the end of April to early May. Are all these new cases coming from grocery stores...what the heck is going on.

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Now outbreak at a walmart here in greenville supposedly. Also know of a new case at an assisted living center where the individual hadnt been out in 3 months.
 
I’m not falling for the bait and switch at Myrtle. They should be slashing prices for not having pools open and all the other restrictions. Going to wait until more amenities become back online.
 
SC says May 18th but heavy restrictions won’t be worth it to me to travel.
 
I really wonder if this is why kids aren't being infected often and may mean if you have kids which are disease vectors you may be much less suceptable to Covid. Who would imagine having kids with their fingers in their mouths may be a good thing. One study said 34% of people who never were infected with Covid had these T cells.

Immune warriors known as T cells help us fight some viruses, but their importance for battling SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has been unclear. Now, two studies reveal infected people harbor T cells that target the virus—and may help them recover. Both studies also found some people never infected with SARS-CoV-2 have these cellular defenses, most likely because they were previously infected with other coronaviruses.

“This is encouraging data,” says virologist Angela Rasmussen of Columbia University. Although the studies don’t clarify whether people who clear a SARS-CoV-2 infection can ward off the virus in the future, both identified strong T cell responses to it, which “bodes well for the development of long-term protective immunity,” Rasmussen says. The findings could also help researchers create better vaccines.
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The teams also asked whether people who haven’t been infected with SARS-CoV-2 also produce cells that combat it. Thiel and colleagues analyzed blood from 68 uninfected people and found that 34% hosted helper T cells that recognized SARS-CoV-2. The La Jolla team detected this crossreactivity in about half of stored blood samples collected between 2015 and 2018, well before the current pandemic began. The researchers think these cells were likely triggered by past infection with one of the four human coronaviruses that cause colds; proteins in these viruses resemble those of SARS-CoV-2.

The results suggest “one reason that a large chunk of the population may be able to deal with the virus is that we may have some small residual immunity from our exposure to common cold viruses,” says viral immunologist Steven Varga of the University of Iowa. However, neither of the studies attempted to establish that people with crossreactivity don’t become as ill from COVID-19
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www.sciencemag.org

T cells found in COVID-19 patients ‘bode well’ for long-term immunity

New findings suggest past infections may offer some protection against the novel coronavirus
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We’re only going because our anniversary plans were canceled in March. And as far as I can tell, the rate I received (through hotels.com) for an oceanfront room was on the cheap ($80 per night). I don’t really care about the amenities though. It’s my anniversary. I have other things of importance!
 
Poimen said:
We’re only going because our anniversary plans were canceled in March. And as far as I can tell, the rate I received (through hotels.com) for an oceanfront room was on the cheap ($80 per night). I don’t really care about the amenities though. It’s my anniversary. I have other things of importance!
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Glad it's not of impotence ... (LOL...)
 
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It is great news and hopefully it will continue. However, the full story won't be known for a couple more weeks imo due to lag. Also, despite the re-openings, the vast majority of potential customers are being cautious and still staying home as of last check. At last check, for example, less than 10% of dining in business had resumed and was only rising slowly. IF, say 100% business is resumed, would the numbers stay down? Nobody knows.
 
GaWx said:
It is great news and hopefully it will continue. However, the full story won't be known for a couple more weeks imo due to lag. Also, despite the re-openings, the vast majority of potential customers are being cautious and still staying home as of last check. At last check, for example, less than 10% of dining in business had resumed and was only rising slowly. IF, say 100% business is resumed, would the numbers stay down? Nobody knows.
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Yeah ... our Gov had a big news conf in JAX at 3:00 today to announce all kinds of dropping restrictions; FL has posted no numbers since noon yesterday; one of two things ... he has great numbers and wants them published after the fact in support of more easing, or the numbers suck and he's got the bean counters in Tallawhacky re-doing the data to fit a narrative ... only time will tell but I do not trust operational government at any level ... (Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative ... they all seem to think I'm too dumb to think for myself) ...
Rant over ... ?
 
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