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GaWx said:
I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. If he really believes that this is no worse than a common cold, then maybe he really is an idiot on this subject after all. :confused: But I still don't believe that he's that stupid and still think he's protecting Trump/stock markets and not being honest at all.
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At the risk of people dying and destruction? I don't think so. Stretch..I think he knows it's somewhat of a panic false flag. We have seen it before and timing can't be denied and past tactics. He is far from an idiot. I would almost bet that if some other jaw dropping news came out that would bring Trump down, we wouldn't hear much about the virus. Just my opinion of course.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Let me just be clear here, I never was concerned about HTH transmission only if the virus is capable of surviving in a warm/wet climate and it clearly is because people are getting sick from it left & right south of China even if they received it elsewhere, you speculated on possible avenues how it could have gotten there but you or no one else knows all of those details.

Also, given I nearly have a masters degree in atmospheric science, I'm pretty sure I can read and I know what I said to you wrt incubation period, it was a misunderstanding from both you and me I don't know why you continue to stubbornly go on & on about it. I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing at this point because you like to interject and cherry pick every teeny, minute detail of everything I say on this forum and spin it in a negative light.

I'm truly done arguing with you and consider yourself blocked by me.
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We don’t know how well the virus survives in warm climates or how HTH transmission is affected. The survivability of the virus in warm environments is also unknown thus far. All the map does is show people in warm climates have it but it doesn’t give us the context needed to find out where they got it which is what is most important. If they contracted the virus in that warm climate and if it spreads just as fast in that warm environment then that will be a major concern. But if they contracted the virus in a cooler region and traveled home that doesn’t really give us any indication as to how warm weather is affecting the survivability and transmission of it. Yes people are getting it left and right outside of China but again we simply do not know WHERE they actually contracted it which is key with understanding the transmission of it and how temperatures affect the transmission of it, if any.

I’m aware of your degree but that has nothing to do with you claiming I said something that I did not actually say. Yes it was a misunderstanding and that’s all I was pointing out by quoting what I actually said vs what you claimed I said.
 
GaWx said:
I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. If he really believes that this is no worse than a common cold, then maybe he really is an idiot on this subject after all. :confused: But I still don' believe that and think he's protecting Trump/stock markets and not being honest at all.
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People are acting like this is the next Black Plague. No it’s not contained but look up how many people have died from the flu here in the United States. I lost a step brother from the flu and turned into pneumonia he was only 49 but he was a heavy smoker. CDC has said older folks with compromised immune systems is the greatest threat. And not getting political but Nancy polosi just said that she is turning down trumps funding here in the United States for the virus... Why??? If it so bad can’t she put her own personal agenda to the side. Some people are so consumed with hate toward our president they can’t even see straight or govern and trust me democrats see the stock market go down and they will make it like everything they freaking do political. WATCH!!
 
metwannabe said:
Wow, wishing death on those you don't like or agree with.... that's as tolerant as it gets.
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I know this is not the political thread, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with someone for no reason whatsoever, and disagreeing with someone due to their unbelievably outdated beliefs that stem from racist and homophobic thoughts amongst other tones of extreme views. I’m all for differences in opinions, I adore and respond to what everyone has to say, but what he says is unacceptable especially in this day in age.
 
Fisherman said:
People are acting like this is the next Black Plague. No it’s not contained but look up how many people have died from the flu here in the United States. I lost a step brother from the flu and turned into pneumonia he was only 49 but he was a heavy smoker. CDC has said older folks with compromised immune systems is the greatest threat. And not getting political but Nancy polosi just said that she is turning down trumps funding here in the United States for the virus... Why??? If it so bad can’t she put her own personal agenda to the side. Some people are so consumed with hate toward our president they can’t even see straight or govern and trust me democrats see the stock market go down and they will make it like everything they freaking do political. WATCH!!
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Doesn't Trump use the stock market for him politically when it suits him. If this virus is able to spread here and do the same damage as in China both parties will have to work together or there will be problems. Let's leave political discussion in the more dangerous thread.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Let me just be clear here, I never was concerned about HTH transmission only if the virus is capable of surviving in a warm/wet climate and it clearly is because people are getting sick from it left & right south of China even if they received it elsewhere, you speculated on possible avenues how it could have gotten there but you or no one else knows all of those details.

Also, given I nearly have a masters degree in atmospheric science, I'm pretty sure I can read and I know what I said to you wrt incubation period, it was a misunderstanding from both you and me I don't know why you continue to stubbornly go on & on about it. I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing at this point because you like to interject and cherry pick every teeny, minute detail of everything I say on this forum and spin it in a negative light.

I'm truly done arguing with you and consider yourself blocked by me.
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You might want to follow your own advice on this; this is a forum and with so many unknowns right now it's good to practice good science and question various claims or statements regarding the virus, right?
Webberweather53 said:
I like to debate and argue because I'm a scientist by practice and nature unlike the vast majority of the rest of the forum, and we're supposed to be inherently skeptical and constantly questioning new ideas, hypotheses, and statements, especially to ones like yours that aren't supported by any actual, hard evidence wrt CoV-19. If you make claims without substantial evidence and data to back them up & don't consider potential confounding variables, then they certainly will be perceived as hasty or rash in many circles, and will be open to scrutiny like this in a scientific setting, getting really upset over that is unprofessional on your end.
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Yes, people are getting sick left and right south of China but we do not know where they contracted it. Where they received the virus is extremely important in determining if warmer temperatures are affecting the spread of the virus or not. All we know from the map is that people in warmer climates have the virus but we do not have data to indicate both where they got it and if temperatures affected the transmission/survivability of the virus or not. The hope is that warmer temperatures will affect the transmission rate and survivability of the virus. We do not yet have data which indicates whether or not they will help. And getting upset enough to block someone is a bit unprofessional according to what you said earlier ;)
 
snowlover91 said:
You might want to follow your own advice on this; this is a forum and with so many unknowns right now it's good to practice good science and question various claims or statements regarding the virus, right?


Yes, people are getting sick left and right south of China but we do not know where they contracted it. Where they received the virus is extremely important in determining if warmer temperatures are affecting the spread of the virus or not. All we know from the map is that people in warmer climates have the virus but we do not have data to indicate both where they got it and if temperatures affected the transmission/survivability of the virus or not. The hope is that warmer temperatures will affect the transmission rate and survivability of the virus. We do not yet have data which indicates whether or not they will help. And getting upset enough to block someone is a bit unprofessional according to what you said earlier ;)
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You incessant harassment towards me & need for constant attention & self-gratification is perfectly legitimate reason to block you, especially considering this isn't the first time you've come after me like this, and based on prior experience, changing your mind on absolutely anything is about as worthwhile as trying to talk to a brick wall.

Knowing when to drop an argument when a conversation is clearly going absolutely nowhere and taking necessary actions to end it (regardless of who's right) is actually a very professional move on my part. Your continued quoting of my posts after you didn't receive the desired vitriolic reaction from me in your first response (or any reaction at all) is undeniable evidence that you still have a lot of growing up left to do.
 
Webberweather53 said:
You incessant harassment towards me & need for constant attention & self-gratification is perfectly legitimate reason to block you, especially considering this isn't the first time you've come after me like this, and based on prior experience, changing your mind on absolutely anything is about as worthwhile as trying to talk to a brick wall.

Knowing when to drop an argument when a conversation is clearly going absolutely nowhere and taking necessary actions to end it (regardless of who's right) is actually a very professional move on my part. Your continued quoting of my posts after you didn't receive the desired vitriolic reaction from me in your first response (or any reaction at all) is undeniable evidence that you still have a lot of growing up left to do.
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I'm not trying to get a vitriolic reaction from you or attempting to harass you, I'm sorry you feel that way. My original point was one of discussion and not personal attack. I don't think we have any evidence right now that indicates if warm weather actually slows down the survivability of the virus on various surfaces and the transmission rate of it. My view is that the map only tells us that people outside of China have contracted it but it doesn't answer where the transmission occurred (warm or cold climate) and if warmer weather is helping or not.
 
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