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NoSnowATL said:
Not as much as you think or see.


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It's pretty obvious that hardly anyone takes what he says seriously and contradicting his own advisors that are experts in the health field during a press conference & trying to give people a false sense of security when there is none certainly instills absolutely no confidence in anyone.
 
Webberweather53 said:
It's pretty obvious that hardly anyone takes what he says seriously and contradicting his own advisors that are experts in the health field during a press conference & trying to give people a false sense of security when there is none certainly instills absolutely no confidence in anyone.
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Exactly. Trump could potentially take control of the situation and lead the world in handling this problem. A lack of confidence in all world government at this time is driving this panic.
 
Heelyes said:
The most powerful man in the world doesn't effect world markets?
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Major reductions in Asian industrial outputs, reduced commodities demand, the collapse of oil prices, disruptions to international travel and supply chains, currency exchange volatility, etc etc have far more impact on the global capital markets than anything the US president might say or do.
 
Yellow Snow said:
Major reductions in Asian industrial outputs, reduced commodities demand, the collapse of oil prices, disruptions to international travel and supply chains, currency exchange volatility, etc etc have far more impact on the global capital markets than anything the US president might say or do.
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I never said he was the cause, but he isn't helping like he could.
 
I'm not sure if this has been added to the discussion, but Dr. John Campbell has lots of great info on his videos on YouTube. He gives daily updates on the numbers of infected and the deaths from the disease. He also has good info on other things with the virus. I'm sure there are other discussions there, but I find that his videos are great. He doesn't mince words. He tells it like it is.

Also, I have to travel to Romania for work at the end of March. I've actually been looking forward to the trip, and I will be disappointed if it gets cancelled. Who knows where we will be in a month.
 
Unfortunately, people on both sides of the political aisle are using this to score political points. In the end, I trust that the government will do what it can to stop the spread of the virus. But that could only be because I’ve read too many Jack Ryan novels.
 
We should reverse today in the market. The market is now pricing in a 100% 25 bps rate cut in March and a 72% chance of a 50 bps cut. Also the CB's around the world will most likely act together to flood the economies with liquidity.
 
Heelyes said:
Exactly. Trump could potentially take control of the situation and lead the world in handling this problem. A lack of confidence in all world government at this time is driving this panic.
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You know why he hasnt, probably because hes in the same boat as us, holding pattern between cold that causes pneumonia in elderly/comprised, virus X, or in between.
Ive been reading at nauseaism ,keeping up since January and still have a hard time discerning exactly what we are dealing with here. So if you go full bore and it turns out this is just another strain of bad flu for practical purposes, then look at the uneccesary damage. Vice versa you go soft and it turns out to be virus X, then your playing catch up, instead of being out front.
Trump doesnt have the luxury of trusting a lot of government departmental personal. To many snakes in the wood pile that are working against this administration. Its ashame,but thats the way it is. I see nothing wrong to this point with the approach the administartion is taking. Really not much they can do except bend over backwarrds to suport the infastructure [medical facilities] be able to handle the demand . Highly contagious Viruses spreading are not controllable. Outside of practicing stealth hygene or total isolation, its gonna run its course.
 
The FDA has anounced without naming the drug,the first drug thats been added to a shortage list. All because of supply Chain shutdown from China.
This has to be addressed and corrected going forward. These global bafooned trade deals the past several decades for the sake of utopia profit margins not only killed our mfg base jobs across small town America,but also has put us at the mercy now of a communist country to supply medicines, and few other raw material products that sustain our military build up self reliance capabilities.
 
NCSNOW said:
You know why he hasnt, probably because hes in the same boat as us, holding pattern between cold that causes pneumonia in elderly/comprised, virus X, or in between.
Ive been reading at nauseaism ,keeping up since January and still have a hard time discerning exactly what we are dealing with here. So if you go full bore and it turns out this is just another strain of bad flu for practical purposes, then look at the uneccesary damage. Vice versa you go soft and it turns out to be virus X, then your playing catch up, instead of being out front.
Trump doesnt have the luxury of trusting a lot of government departmental personal. To many snakes in the wood pile that are working against this administration. Its ashame,but thats the way it is. I see nothing wrong to this point with the approach the administartion is taking. Really not much they can do except bend over backwarrds to suport the infastructure [medical facilities] be able to handle the demand . Highly contagious Viruses spreading are not controllable. Outside of practicing stealth hygene or total isolation, its gonna run its course.
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Not many people remember how badly President Ford was lambasted for overreacting to the swine flu in '76.
www.smithsonianmag.com

The Long Shadow of the 1976 Swine Flu Vaccine 'Fiasco'

Some, but not all, of the hesitance to embrace vaccines can be traced back to this event more than 40 years ago
www.smithsonianmag.com www.smithsonianmag.com
 
NCSNOW said:
You know why he hasnt, probably because hes in the same boat as us, holding pattern between cold that causes pneumonia in elderly/comprised, virus X, or in between.
Ive been reading at nauseaism ,keeping up since January and still have a hard time discerning exactly what we are dealing with here. So if you go full bore and it turns out this is just another strain of bad flu for practical purposes, then look at the uneccesary damage. Vice versa you go soft and it turns out to be virus X, then your playing catch up, instead of being out front.
Trump doesnt have the luxury of trusting a lot of government departmental personal. To many snakes in the wood pile that are working against this administration. Its ashame,but thats the way it is. I see nothing wrong to this point with the approach the administartion is taking. Really not much they can do except bend over backwarrds to suport the infastructure [medical facilities] be able to handle the demand . Highly contagious Viruses spreading are not controllable. Outside of practicing stealth hygene or total isolation, its gonna run its course.
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"it turns out this is just another strain of bad flu for practical purposes, then look at the uneccesary damage."
This post is really a huge load of bs. How exactly does preparing the American public for a virus that's spreading like wildfire in many parts of the globe and killing thousands of people w/ an infection ratio above 2 going to cause unnecessary damage. Not doing anything and it actually happening is infinitely worse. This is akin to being within the 5 day NHC cone of uncertainty with a major hurricane bearing down on you, and you telling everyone not to prepare because that would cause "unneeded harm" if you did so.

When basically very expert at the CDC says is likely if not nearly certain to become widespread in the US, then you should prepare instead of trying to blow off the virus, saying we have it completely under control when you've done absolutely nothing to prepare for it (other than elect inept people to high ranking positions) and make drastic cuts to important departments in the government that are intended to respond to crises like this and then blame the stock market crash on a democratic debate that happened after stocks tanked on Tue. This really shows how inept & ill-prepared the president and his administration are for CoV-19.

Hopefully you & other rhinos pull your head out of the sand sooner rather than later.
 
Webberweather53 said:
This isn't just some "normal" market correction, the cause of the dip in the stock markets is directly attributable to a virus that has the potential to become a global pandemic, the likes of which we haven't seen in a very long time. So no, this isn't "normal" in any way shape or form. In this case, it definitely matters who's president because it's very obvious Trump has no absolutely no idea what he's doing and cares more about the stock market than human lives & he and his department are woefully unprepared.
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Just curious is there absolute proof, because you love to speak in absolutes, that Trump cares more about the stock market then human lives? Not opinions, but facts..... I mean those of us who are pro-life could certainly argue that every single Democratic nominee cares more about their position of power than human lives (over 40 million dead unborn children are pretty strong facts for that)
 
Webberweather53 said:
It's pretty obvious that hardly anyone takes what he says seriously and contradicting his own advisors that are experts in the health field during a press conference & trying to give people a false sense of security when there is none certainly instills absolutely no confidence in anyone.
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Do you imply that there is absolutely no security within our country at this time? In general or specific to the coronavirus and if specific to the virus, that sounds like it's too late.... seems a little over board to me.
 
Thankfully we have some of the best medical facilities and personnel in the world here, yeah my 401 k will take a hit but come back stronger than ever, thankfully this is one of the most resilient nations on the face of the earth and regardless of what happens we will bounce back. Remember as a nation, we've been through Civil war, Pearl Harbor attack, terrorist attacks, presidential assassinations, epidemics, stock market crashes/recessions, you name it, we've seen it..... we're still here. One Nation under God! God speed my friends!
 
Sandbar said:
Well im going to Afghanistan in a few weeks so ill get a break from all this I suppose.....
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Dude... contractor job? I knew you frogmen couldn’t stay off the sand. Unless you’re headed up to Bagram, then you have the Bagram lung to deal with. Cough, cough, cough.
 
Windergawx said:
I've heard a lot of ppl saying those n95 mask orders are being canceled. I really didn'td anything we just went out to see the buzz around town. Ppl where talking about it. But traffic at the store was norm maybe a hair more ppl.. But the condoms being out of stock really made me laugh

I would rather wear a full hazmat suit and gas mask before I would wear a mask. N95 are good for short periods after your breath makes them moist I don't believe they are as effective,....wish I had a hazmat suit that would get killer looks in public

On market watch money pouring in now, but likely to red as all other makerts are down
Dow had 670,366,584 today wow
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You’ll put on a Level A HazMat suit and in five minutes you’ll want out. Trust me. You’re pouring sweat off you, the lens fog up (unless you’re on supplied air which a whole other bag of worms (so in reality a 4500 SCBA) that’s added weight, tape up the wrists after pulling on compatible gloves, tape up calves after putting on boots. It’s a real pain in the ass. Trust me. LOL
 
metwannabe said:
Just curious is there absolute proof, because you love to speak in absolutes, that Trump cares more about the stock market then human lives? Not opinions, but facts..... I mean those of us who are pro-life could certainly argue that every single Democratic nominee cares more about their position of power than human lives (over 40 million dead unborn children are pretty strong facts for that)
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More like 60 million...but your point still stands.

Back on topic: this is a “normal” pullback in the markets in the sense that the market was way overpriced/valued and it was just waiting for one little pin prick to burst. Plus, the disruption the virus has had on economic production in China and other sectors of the global economy, are dragging the market low.

But for now, the market has only retreated back to August 2019 levels. There’s probably more to go, unless some unforeseen good news comes out today or over the weekend.
 
NoSnowATL said:
Some of you need to go study up on the Stock Market, what is happening isn’t new and happens a lot. Market corrections are needed to cleanse the market. Yes it sucks if you are planning on retiring soon but it’s needed. Doesn’t matter if a Republican is President or a Democratic is. We are overdue and it’s completely normal.


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I was wondering when someone would bring up a market correction. Economists were talking about this late summer last year.
 
Steven_1974 said:
He's a social scientist that specializes in anthropology. He's not a medical professional in any way. So his op-ed is what convinced you? Talk about irresponsible.
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Good God. It was a different perspective. I’m not fully convinced, but I am intrigued by the possibility. I am open to all theories. It wouldn’t surprise me if it is Chinese made. I mean they have such a stellar record when it comes to basic human rights and all.
 
Since we're on the topic of political blame games, President Moon Jae-in is getting hammered for not imposing tighter entry restrictions on travelers coming in from China.
news.yahoo.com

As Virus Spreads, Koreans Blame Refusal to Stop Chinese Visitors

(Bloomberg) -- In a matter of days, South Korea has swung from confidence that it had escaped the worst of the coronavirus outbreak to a cautionary tale of how quickly the disease can plunge a nation into crisis.Confirmed cases of the deadly disease surged past 2,000 on Friday -- doubling in two...
news.yahoo.com news.yahoo.com
 
Webberweather53 said:
"it turns out this is just another strain of bad flu for practical purposes, then look at the uneccesary damage."
This post is really a huge load of bs. How exactly does preparing the American public for a virus that's spreading like wildfire in many parts of the globe and killing thousands of people w/ an infection ratio above 2 going to cause unnecessary damage. Not doing anything and it actually happening is infinitely worse. This is akin to being within the 5 day NHC cone of uncertainty with a major hurricane bearing down on you, and you telling everyone not to prepare because that would cause "unneeded harm" if you did so.

When basically very expert at the CDC says is likely if not nearly certain to become widespread in the US, then you should prepare instead of trying to blow off the virus, saying we have it completely under control when you've done absolutely nothing to prepare for it (other than elect inept people to high ranking positions) and make drastic cuts to important departments in the government that are intended to respond to crises like this and then blame the stock market crash on a democratic debate that happened after stocks tanked on Tue. This really shows how inept & ill-prepared the president and his administration are for CoV-19.

Hopefully you & other rhinos pull your head out of the sand sooner rather than later.
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Coronavirus is headed to Alabama y’all. It’s in my Sharpie cone of uncertainty.
 
Maybe I'm too naïve but potential economy impact bothers me more than the virus itself. I have some older close family members that don't have a perfect respiratory system but what I've thought of lately involving them is that if the virus makes it to where they live, because a lot of them are in the country and small town NW GA, we've probably gotten to the point where there's very serious problems anyway.

I do think some precautions need to be taken, but most are your typical ones except including knowing your limits when you're sick, when to just try to rest at home and get in all the fluids you can, and when to get checked out medically.

I think this has gone from an under to overreaction like I said in the political thread. But who knows, maybe in a month or so it turns out that some areas have to shut down and my dad gets bit bigly by choosing to not stock up and do his normal food shopping the whole time.
 
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