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Downeastnc said:
Its not going to do much when everything is closed etc....this is the wrong approach, this is Trump trying to help the market....putting a few extra hundred in everyones pocket wont stimulate much if everything is closed.
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I’m not saying I fully support this plan but It will help pay the power bill, rent or mortgage, car payments, etc. Then when things get back to normal people will have extra spending money rather than being behind in other payments. Also it would help mentally when everyone is freaking out

Helping the market is not a bad thing. Majority of working people have retirement money tied up in stocks. And businesses take their cue from the market about hiring and production
 
Downeastnc said:
Its not going to do much when everything is closed etc....this is the wrong approach, this is Trump trying to help the market....putting a few extra hundred in everyones pocket wont stimulate much if everything is closed.
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A payroll tax suspension and/or cut has a positive impact on businesses as well as workers - employers match employee FICA contributions. The cut would give companies greater liquidity to prevent layoffs in the short term.
 
Downeastnc said:
Its not going to do much when everything is closed etc....this is the wrong approach, this is Trump trying to help the market....putting a few extra hundred in everyones pocket wont stimulate much if everything is closed.
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Please tell us what you recommend? What steps should he be taking? Let’s say your the president so please tell us what all you would do!
 
Matthew70 said:
Please tell us what you recommend? What steps should he be taking? Let’s say your the president so please tell us what all you would do!
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First setup and distribute as many test as I can.....test as many people as we can.....there are thousands of people right now walking around this country positive for corona with no idea they have it. The more of these people we can get self quarantined the better....that's the single biggest thing we can as a country do right now to try and control this outbreak, its no longer about stopping it, its about managing it to prevent what happened in Italy and China from happening here.
 
The situation in Italy keeps going from bad to worse.

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Nearly 200 Italians died of coronavirus in 24 hours

Italy is reporting 12,462 confirmed cases of the COVID-19 coronavirus — up from just over 300 two weeks ago — plus 827 deaths and 1,045 people who recovered from the virus. To give a sense of how fast Italy's epidemic is moving, nearly a quarter of the total deaths — 196 — occurred from Tuesday...
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Matthew70 said:
Please tell us what you recommend? What steps should he be taking? Let’s say your the president so please tell us what all you would do!
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I'll take a stab.
  1. Rapid and widespread testing. Stop making excuses and start testing.
  2. Quarantine anyone who tests positive for 1 month.
  3. Conduct widespread contact-tracing.
  4. Quarantine anyone who is known to have come in contact with someone who tests positive for one month.
  5. Use technology to alert people to locations where a person who has tested positive has been.
  6. Rapid construction of offsite medical facilities.
  7. Immediate bipartisan relief package to help businesses and individuals impacted by the virus.
  8. Halt all international and inter-state leisure travel.
  9. Declare a national emergency.
  10. Identify shortages of medical equipment and source them immediately.
  11. Urge the cancellation of all structured public gatherings (sporting events, schools, concerts, etc.).
Those are a few quick things that should be done ASAP. They will cause some pain, but they will slow and halt the spread of the virus and save a lot of lives.
 
Downeastnc said:
Meh it just seemed like he was still playing the blame game.....calling it a foreign virus and playing up how effective the China ban was....even though the virus is here and spreading but whatever.....he brought nothing to the table that is going to help slow the rate of spread in the country....we needed him to take bigger steps....they will happen eventually anyways but it will be too late for many by then.
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He banned travel cause we were getting infected by people who went from China to Europe to the USA .. Europe DIDNT have the sane restrictions for China that we had earlier .. it will certainly help areas of the US to not outbreak as quickly .. but spread is inevitable we’re just giving ourselves some lead time
 
Rain Cold said:
I'll take a stab.
  1. Rapid and widespread testing. Stop making excuses and start testing.
  2. Quarantine anyone who tests positive for 1 month.
  3. Conduct widespread contact-tracing.
  4. Quarantine anyone who is known to have come in contact with someone who tests positive for one month.
  5. Use technology to alert people to locations where a person who has tested positive has been.
  6. Rapid construction of offsite medical facilities.
  7. Immediate bipartisan relief package to help businesses and individuals impacted by the virus.
  8. Halt all international and inter-state leisure travel.
  9. Declare a national emergency.
  10. Identify shortages of medical equipment and source them immediately.
  11. Urge the cancellation of all structured public gatherings (sporting events, schools, concerts, etc.).
Those are a few quick things that should be done ASAP. They will cause some pain, but they will slow and halt the spread of the virus and save a lot of lives.
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So those people that live paycheck to paycheck no money for one month while in quarantine.
I think we focus on elderly in securing them. Not the younger working class. This virus is more deadly to elderly as we know. Let the younger work and continue on. Either way it’s a disaster. No matter what path we take. The world economies are going to crash. Hopefully everyone stays calm and we don’t end up having rioting, theft, and calamity.
 
Just unbelievable people... we are like a damn 3rd world county

The CDC website shows the number of tests for coronavirus in the US have gone down in the past few days. VP Pence says the numbers "may not be complete because we don't necessarily collect today all the information from state laboratories about the tests that are being done.



Vice President Mike Pence said the US was "working on making tests broadly available across the country," in an interview on CNN's New Day Thursday.

"One of the things we are working on is a central reporting website," he added.
 
Matthew70 said:
So those people that live paycheck to paycheck no money for one month while in quarantine.
I think we focus on elderly in securing them. Not the younger working class. This virus is more deadly to elderly as we know. Let the younger work and continue on. Either way it’s a disaster. No matter what path we take. The world economies are going to crash. Hopefully everyone stays calm and we don’t end up having rioting, theft, and calamity.
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See point number 7.
 
Yellow Snow said:
The situation in Italy keeps going from bad to worse.

news.yahoo.com

Nearly 200 Italians died of coronavirus in 24 hours

Italy is reporting 12,462 confirmed cases of the COVID-19 coronavirus — up from just over 300 two weeks ago — plus 827 deaths and 1,045 people who recovered from the virus. To give a sense of how fast Italy's epidemic is moving, nearly a quarter of the total deaths — 196 — occurred from Tuesday...
news.yahoo.com news.yahoo.com
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Unfortunately in this case they have one of the oldest populations on earth. Tight quaters in spots, so its the perfect storm.
 
Let's keep this party neutral, please.

Virtually no country reacted properly to this from the get-go. People were more concerned about economics and perception than they were about a possible pandemic. It's unfortunate that this was the case and now we will deal with the fallout. I really hope they can get at least a treatment together in the short term. I feel like a vaccine is going to take a long time, even with all of the hype about it being just around the corner.
 
Please pass this along to your friends on SM and so forth. This is a great explanation of what's happening:

THIS is why things are being cancelled due to #COVID19 in one perfect picture. It is NOT because people are getting hysterical or because they believe the virus is so deadly they are panicking. It is because we only have so much capacity to deal with lot of very sick people. If we can delay the spread by keeping people away from each other, we have a chance to help more people effectively and not overwhelm hospitals and infrastructure. There are only so many nurses, doctors, hospital beds and pieces of equipment to help people that may eventually get virus related pneumonia.

PLEASE SHARE so that people understand this is public health strategy by the CDC, not mass hysteria or over reaction.

AND, keep washing your hands because the soap will kill the virus better than anything else!



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