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metwannabe said:
Jessy, congratulations my man. I can't find anyone that sides with you on this, I've seen a couple of members defend you and your position, your opinions before (myself included), RC, Sandbar, just to name a couple but that's changed. You have elevated yourself to the top of troll greatness, the troll of all trolls, there's even a guy up in Iowa with frozen dandruff on his deck chair that can't hold a candle to you.

Well done your trollness, well done.
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metwannabe said:
Jessy, congratulations my man. I can't find anyone that sides with you on this, I've seen a couple of members defend you and your position, your opinions before (myself included), RC, Sandbar, just to name a couple but that's changed. You have elevated yourself to the top of troll greatness, the troll of all trolls, there's even a guy up in Iowa with frozen dandruff on his deck chair that can't hold a candle to you.

Well done your trollness, well done.
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No, that award still goes to steveklien.
 
Jessy89 said:
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I’ll probably watch part 2 of president In exile. What it basically talks about is President Trump being the president in exile.


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From your favorite confessed child molester…
www.thedailybeast.com

QAnon Conspiracy Theorist Admitted to Corrupting Minor

Pennsylvania resident Philip Godlewski pleaded guilty in June to two misdemeanor charges, and is currently serving a month-long term in jail.
www.thedailybeast.com www.thedailybeast.com
 
Rain Cold said:
. Plus, the fact that you already said it has something to do with Trump being president only further decreases the chances that it will contain anything of value.

Jessy, sometimes you have to go with the probability that something is or isn't truthful instead of believing it out of hand just because you wish for it to be true because you don't like the reality that is in place now. In this case, the probability of this being true is very low, regardless of what you may want.
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But you just said that you discount what is in the video just because you have a preconceived belief of something being false. That's not exactly being scientific or objective. So you told Jessy that you have to go with the probability of something being true/false yet you first say "the fact that you already said it only further decreases the chances it will contain truth (paraphrasing)". You just contradict yourself.

My point is that human beings in general want to have their beliefs verified and confirmed, so we will seek out the things that do so. We instinctually avoid the things that go against our belief system. You're saying above that you believe that there is no way Trump won and that the election was not fraudulent. Most people who hold that belief will naturally throw out any evidence that says otherwise. Confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance are strong influencers in our belief systems. Look at ghosts. Most people say there are no ghosts....so what happens when we see something that could be? We say it's a shadow, a light, a spark, a reflection, etc because we don't want to believe it's a ghost. (Very simple example of my thesis, not trying to discuss ghosts). Open-mindedness and objectivity means you have to consider all possibilities despite previous results.
 
ghost1 said:
From your favorite confessed child molester…
www.thedailybeast.com

QAnon Conspiracy Theorist Admitted to Corrupting Minor

Pennsylvania resident Philip Godlewski pleaded guilty in June to two misdemeanor charges, and is currently serving a month-long term in jail.
www.thedailybeast.com www.thedailybeast.com
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Phil Godlewski is not the most ideal data point in the fight for election truth and covid genocide. He's......he's just not a good data point, I will leave it at that. I can point you into 100 better directions to seek real data. Start with Seth Keshel on Telegram.
 
Sandbar said:
So what happens when you consider the other sides opinion and come to the conclusion that your ideas are just better? Compromise for the sake of compromise doesn't get you a better solution
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That’s the problem. Neither side is giving in to compromise to try to get things done as a country. So, the result is two nations (or tribes) within one country. Tribalism. And the hatred between those two tribes is extreme. Will the US as we know it survive like that? “United” states it is not.

According to that source, if there’s no compromise:

“This results in political systems in which little to nothing gets done and everyone distrusts the hell out of each other."
 
GaWx said:
That’s the problem. Neither side is giving in to compromise to try to get things done as a country. So, the result is two nations (or tribes) within one country. Tribalism. And the hatred between those two tribes is extreme. Will the US as we know it survive like that? “United” states it is not.

According to that source, if there’s no compromise:

“This results in political systems in which little to nothing gets done and everyone distrusts the hell out of each other."
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I haven't read the previous discussion and dialogue between you and others on this topic, so I'm just referring to your specific statement here GaWx.
The evil powers that be KNOW that division creates weakness, and that's why they have done what they have done over the last decades to divide us as a country. We are all cast into groups instead of seen as human beings. White/black, fat/skinny, man/woman, tall/short, gay/straight, on and on and on. What do we do in groups? We find differences in the other groups instead of commonality. What happens when that happens? One group feels they are superior to the other group (I'm speaking in very broad, general terms here). This creates anger, dissent, war, disruption, riots, freedoms being stripped in the name of equality, freedoms stripped in the name of safety, freedoms being stripped in the name of "health", etc. These evil powers that run our country.....Not Joe Biden, Obama, etc....the REAL people who run our country (those who control the money) know that if we are divided, we are weak and stupid. When you are weak and stupid, you are too busy trying to be "equal" to everyone else, that you lose sight on the real enemy! As a country, if we were all united together for humanity....say like we were after 9-11 as an example...the oppressors that control our country would fail in no time. United we are strong, divided we fall. It even says that somewhere in our patriotic stuff. We MUST break the chains of division and see ourselves as God-created human beings, not as a "group member".
 
Broken024 said:
Out of curiosity who do you mean when you say that
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That's a complicated answer....but ultimately it boils down to the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, and a few other bloodlines. Below that....Big Pharma is the largest industry in the world, and the most powerful. They spend more money in lobbying than many companies market cap. Look up what the Rothchilds and Rockefellers did to medicine back in the decades right after the turn of the century. It's as fascinating as it is evil.

And as a side note to those who actually WILL research things....don't use Google to search. Seriously. Although Duckduckgo is compromised as well, they don't censor or place search results as much, so you can find much more accurate info there. Telegram is really where you find evidence and data.
 
GaWx said:
That’s the problem. Neither side is giving in to compromise to try to get things done as a country. So, the result is two nations (or tribes) within one country. Tribalism. And the hatred between those two tribes is extreme. Will the US as we know it survive like that? “United” states it is not.

According to that source, if there’s no compromise:

“This results in political systems in which little to nothing gets done and everyone distrusts the hell out of each other."
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So what caused this "tribalism"? How does it negatively affect your life because it doesn't affect mine at all. I dont like the direction the country is headed now but my philosophy is FORWARD. Maybe its the military in me but I go forward regardless. I don't make time to insure a task gets done through equal input. Compromise is great and I get it but its not required to move forward and get things done. The country is divided because of differing ideologies. You say nothing is getting done? Well we have spent a hell of a lot of money the last several decades for nothing to be getting done
 
Gopack42 said:
That's a complicated answer....but ultimately it boils down to the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, and a few other bloodlines. Below that....Big Pharma is the largest industry in the world, and the most powerful. They spend more money in lobbying than many companies market cap. Look up what the Rothchilds and Rockefellers did to medicine back in the decades right after the turn of the century. It's as fascinating as it is evil.

And as a side note to those who actually WILL research things....don't use Google to search. Seriously. Although Duckduckgo is compromised as well, they don't censor or place search results as much, so you can find much more accurate info there. Telegram is really where you find evidence and data.
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Figured that's what you meant. This is the conspiracy thread afterall
 
Broken024 said:
Figured that's what you meant. This is the conspiracy thread afterall
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I'm glad you said "conspiracy" instead of "conspiracy theory". You're correct.

Edit to add: Have you even bothered to watch any of the videos I've posted from start to finish? I have.
 
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"Conspiracy theory" or "Conspiracy": Joe Biden speaks from a set designed to look like the oval office and the White House. Let's discuss.
 
Gopack42 said:
But you just said that you discount what is in the video just because you have a preconceived belief of something being false. That's not exactly being scientific or objective. So you told Jessy that you have to go with the probability of something being true/false yet you first say "the fact that you already said it only further decreases the chances it will contain truth (paraphrasing)". You just contradict yourself.

My point is that human beings in general want to have their beliefs verified and confirmed, so we will seek out the things that do so. We instinctually avoid the things that go against our belief system. You're saying above that you believe that there is no way Trump won and that the election was not fraudulent. Most people who hold that belief will naturally throw out any evidence that says otherwise. Confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance are strong influencers in our belief systems. Look at ghosts. Most people say there are no ghosts....so what happens when we see something that could be? We say it's a shadow, a light, a spark, a reflection, etc because we don't want to believe it's a ghost. (Very simple example of my thesis, not trying to discuss ghosts). Open-mindedness and objectivity means you have to consider all possibilities despite previous results.
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I think you may have missed my point, or we're talking past each other. I'm not saying that there was no election fraud or even that I have any physical evidence in my possession that Biden won the election. The only fact that's relevant right now is Trump is not the president.

Jessy has a history of supporting very fringe theories that have not panned out. That isn't to say that he won't be right about something at some point. But wisdom can be a good guide as to which basket it makes sense to put your eggs in.

If we followed the letter of the law, I suppose you'd have to objectively stipulate it's possible for you to be abducted by aliens and wake up tomorrow with your head sewn to the carpet. But I think we can agree that is a low probability event that would be better not to put much weight toward.

You're right in that we all have a tendency to gravitate toward our default positions and dismiss other ideas which conflict. That's the realm in which we could stand to be a bit more objective.

Videos trying to convince you of some hidden fringe truth that are dressed in something that looks like a costume out of a Scream movie that are put forward by someone who has promoted similar things in the past that have turned out to be ridiculous, seem like something that belongs in the Low Probability tranche.
 
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