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Metwannabe said:
Not sure why you have to be so confrontational, some good people trying to have some good conversation and you continually talk down to them. As you always say, if you don't want to discuss it, scroll on by.
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We ALL talk down to each other when we don't agree (see other thread). I try not to be "confrontational" but sometimes other people are certainly confrontational to me. No offense taken on my end just trying to educate those in the dark that may be seeking an alternate
 
Sandbar said:
We ALL talk down to each other when we don't agree (see other thread). I try not to be "confrontational" but sometimes other people are certainly confrontational to me. No offense taken on my end just trying to educate those in the dark that may be seeking an alternate
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In the movie Poltergeist the narrator always said "Go toward the light"
 
Im not sure I even know what religion is. Is it God reaching down to man, or man reaching upward towards God? I am entirely convinced of creation. It is most consistent with how I live my life. When I see a cake on the table I don't think "Wow, over thousands of years eggs, flour, sugar emulsified and evolved into this cake." Instead I think, someone made a great cake. When I see a car I don't think "Wow, over thousands of years metal gathered and conformed to make a car. I think, the manufacturer made a good car." When I see a house I don't think "Wow, over thousands of years trees fell down, layed on each other, and a nice structure of a home formed. Instead I think "Man this house is nice who built it?"

For me, the idea of creation is consistent with how I view things around me. The Biblical account of man satisfies my questions about life. Who are we, how did we get here, whats our purpose, and what happens afterward?
 
Avalanche said:
Im not sure I even know what religion is. Is it God reaching down to man, or man reaching upward towards God? I am entirely convinced of creation. It is most consistent with how I live my life. When I see a cake on the table I don't think "Wow, over thousands of years eggs, flour, sugar emulsified and evolved into this cake." Instead I think, someone made a great cake. When I see a car I don't think "Wow, over thousands of years metal gathered and conformed to make a car. I think, the manufacturer made a good car." When I see a house I don't think "Wow, over thousands of years trees fell down, layed on each other, and a nice structure of a home formed. Instead I think "Man this house is nice who built it?"

For me, the idea of creation is consistent with how I view things around me. The Biblical account of man satisfies my questions about life. Who are we, how did we get here, whats our purpose, and what happens afterward?
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I agree to a point, god works in ways we might not comprehend. There is no reason both evolution and god can be real. Who’s to say evolution is not gods tool? This is a big reason I prefer Islam, much more open to accepting scientific fact
 
Avalanche said:
Im not sure I even know what religion is. Is it God reaching down to man, or man reaching upward towards God? I am entirely convinced of creation. It is most consistent with how I live my life. When I see a cake on the table I don't think "Wow, over thousands of years eggs, flour, sugar emulsified and evolved into this cake." Instead I think, someone made a great cake. When I see a car I don't think "Wow, over thousands of years metal gathered and conformed to make a car. I think, the manufacturer made a good car." When I see a house I don't think "Wow, over thousands of years trees fell down, layed on each other, and a nice structure of a home formed. Instead I think "Man this house is nice who built it?"

For me, the idea of creation is consistent with how I view things around me. The Biblical account of man satisfies my questions about life. Who are we, how did we get here, whats our purpose, and what happens afterward?
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I used to feel that way too but I always felt there was more to the story I just never explored out of fear. When I did the psychedelic treatment those high doses remove the blockages within your neural pathways where trauma resides. Within that process it also rewires your brain removing all the clogs you have built up over time. You tend to become more open minded to that spiritual exploration when you go through this process which explains why most people who go through this treatment leave religion behind. You get to experience what it's like to die without severing the chord that binds your soul to the body at death. When the universe calls to you, you listen and I did. I wish I could explain it better but everyone here is on there own path, some as a group and some a personal path. I wish you folks could understand why this isn't a your way or the highway situation but it undermines your entire way of thinking to do so which is a shame (nothing personal towards you ;-)
 
This just came up in my feed regarding Billy Carson, whose videos some of which Sandbar has been posting, so here you go.

 
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Exploring "Hell" and "Satan" Through a Hermetic Lens
Dear friends,
I wanted to share some thoughts on a profound question that often arises: What are "hell" and "Satan," and how can we understand them within the context of Hermetics? These are deep topics that deserve careful exploration, so let us approach them with the light of wisdom and discernment.
Hell: A State of Consciousness, Not a Place
In Hermetics, we view the Universe as mental, as the Principle of Mentalism teaches: "The All is Mind; the Universe is Mental." From this understanding, "hell" is not a physical location created by a loving God to punish souls for eternity. Rather, it is a state of being, born from our own disconnection from divine truth, harmony, and love.
Hell manifests as the inner torment caused by fear, guilt, hatred, or separation. It is the natural consequence of living out of alignment with the universal laws and our higher selves. A God of love would not create eternal suffering; love seeks healing, growth, and unity, not eternal punishment. Hell, therefore, is a metaphor for the struggles we endure when we resist divine order and truth.
Satan: An Archetype, Not a Being
The figure of "Satan" can be understood as an archetype rather than a literal being. In Hermeticism, it represents the principle of resistance, duality, or opposition inherent in the material world. It symbolizes the shadow side of our psyche—our ego, fears, and attachments to the material that separate us from divine unity.
Through the Principle of Polarity, Hermetics teaches that light and shadow, virtue and vice, exist as necessary opposites. Overcoming "Satan" involves integrating these opposing forces within ourselves and transcending them to reach higher states of understanding and unity.
The Power of Free Will
Hermetics emphasizes that we are co-creators of our reality. If we find ourselves in a state of "hell," it is not because we are condemned by an external force but because we have not yet awakened to our divine nature. By using our free will to seek truth, love, and alignment with the principles of the divine, we can transcend suffering and reclaim our role as conscious creators.
Unity Over Separation
A central Hermetic teaching is the unity of all things. There is no ultimate force opposing the divine because everything—light, shadow, good, and what we perceive as evil—is part of the greater whole. "Satan," then, represents the illusions of separation and resistance. Enlightenment comes when we see through these illusions and embrace the truth that we are all part of the same divine fabric.
A Message of Hope
Hell and Satan are not eternal forces meant to destroy us; they are teachers, showing us where we need to grow. They invite us to overcome fear with love, ignorance with wisdom, and separation with unity. As we walk this path together, let us support one another in finding peace within, even amidst life's challenges.
I encourage you to reflect on these ideas and share your thoughts. How do these Hermetic principles resonate with you? Let's continue this conversation in the spirit of seeking truth and understanding.
 
Yet another great video on Enoch and Ezekiel and YES......the link to extra terrestrial. If this doesn't at least open your eyes to the "bigger story" you have simply stunted your growth as a soul. Enjoy!

 
You deserve to know the truth. The ending says it all..... Jesus was not crucified or resurrected. It's all a blatant lie and the Vatican knows it

 
Sandbar said:
I used to feel that way too but I always felt there was more to the story I just never explored out of fear. When I did the psychedelic treatment those high doses remove the blockages within your neural pathways where trauma resides. Within that process it also rewires your brain removing all the clogs you have built up over time. You tend to become more open minded to that spiritual exploration when you go through this process which explains why most people who go through this treatment leave religion behind. You get to experience what it's like to die without severing the chord that binds your soul to the body at death. When the universe calls to you, you listen and I did. I wish I could explain it better but everyone here is on there own path, some as a group and some a personal path. I wish you folks could understand why this isn't a your way or the highway situation but it undermines your entire way of thinking to do so which is a shame (nothing personal towards you ;-)
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Have you ever entertained the question ....."what if ...?" What if I am wrong? .... What if others were right? ... What if everything I though was the truth was only an illusion...... I am very secure in my salvation; however, I still ponder those thoughts. Paul says to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. He is not saying that salvation is by works, but he is saying that it is the most important decision a human being will ever make.
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
Have you ever entertained the question ....."what if ...?" What if I am wrong? .... What if others were right? ... What if everything I though was the truth was only an illusion...... I am very secure in my salvation; however, I still ponder those thoughts. Paul says to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. He is not saying that salvation is by works, but he is saying that it is the most important decision a human being will ever make.
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I most certainly did! The Day I decided that what I had been taught to believe was going to be put to the test. That's the difference here. You guys are sticking with the only thing you have ever known. You don't question it one bit you just believe and obey out of fear. Yes it is most certainly out of fear and I say this because you do indeed "fear the lord". If you took a step back and looked at outside sources you will see where you are just a number in a sea of billions who have been taught the exact same lie. Now you will go on to teach your children this lie and they will teach their generation the lie just as it has been for 2000 years. You guys need to pay attention because you are going to have your world rocked in the next 2-3 years. As technology increases at a massive rate, so does knowledge and with that, logic becomes part of the equation. The dark evil that has enslaved you is being brought out into the light and the game is coming to an end. Nobody is coming to save you friend. Not today, not tomorrow, not thousands of years from now
 
One more thing.......
You need to be paying attention to what is going on above our heads in the sky. Disclosure is happening and it's just the start
 
Sorry guys, I can’t go on this page any longer. Every time I want to post some truth I’m told I’m wrong. I’ll stick to the weather side.
 
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