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Just passing along info for those who may be interested in an alternate view of the TRUE life of Jesus that you wont hear on Sunday. This video explores the lost 18 years of Jesus, where he went, what he learned and his purpose for going. Yes it is 100% opposite of what you were "taught". It's only 30 minutes but a lifetime of wisdom

 
Just passing along info for those who may be interested in an alternate view of the TRUE life of Jesus that you wont hear on Sunday. This video explores the lost 18 years of Jesus, where he went, what he learned and his purpose for going. Yes it is 100% opposite of what you were "taught". It's only 30 minutes but a lifetime of wisdom


I've been lurking on this conversation for a while and it's pretty sad. First off, props for coming on the 'All Things Religious' thread and posting about you're non religion. Secondly, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? To save people from their faith? You seem to be trying so hard to save people from something you don't believe in. And you are doing it by telling them that they're wrong in their beliefs because they don't have all the information, but somehow you do? Apparently from extensive "research" and youtube videos of other folks talking about their extensive "research". From my experience, my faith is not based in the church, the religion, or what somebody else tells me. It's based on my walk with Jesus, and all of the things He has shown me and that I have been blessed in my life since accepting Him as my Savior. Notice I said nothing about being scared of Him or God, or going to hell if I messed up or did something wrong. It's not about punishment, it's about the blessing you receive simply by believing and trying our best to follow His will. I will ask you this, please miss Christians with this nonsense. You claimed to be a Christian, but are out here trying to convert Christians with this nonsense. It's not going to work on Christians who are strong in their faith, but it may work on some like yourself who are going through a time of weakness in their faith. Which maybe is what you're hoping to do.
 
I've been lurking on this conversation for a while and it's pretty sad. First off, props for coming on the 'All Things Religious' thread and posting about you're non religion. Secondly, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? To save people from their faith? You seem to be trying so hard to save people from something you don't believe in. And you are doing it by telling them that they're wrong in their beliefs because they don't have all the information, but somehow you do? Apparently from extensive "research" and youtube videos of other folks talking about their extensive "research". From my experience, my faith is not based in the church, the religion, or what somebody else tells me. It's based on my walk with Jesus, and all of the things He has shown me and that I have been blessed in my life since accepting Him as my Savior. Notice I said nothing about being scared of Him or God, or going to hell if I messed up or did something wrong. It's not about punishment, it's about the blessing you receive simply by believing and trying our best to follow His will. I will ask you this, please miss Christians with this nonsense. You claimed to be a Christian, but are out here trying to convert Christians with this nonsense. It's not going to work on Christians who are strong in their faith, but it may work on some like yourself who are going through a time of weakness in their faith. Which maybe is what you're hoping to do.
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I've been lurking on this conversation for a while and it's pretty sad. First off, props for coming on the 'All Things Religious' thread and posting about you're non religion. Secondly, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? To save people from their faith? You seem to be trying so hard to save people from something you don't believe in. And you are doing it by telling them that they're wrong in their beliefs because they don't have all the information, but somehow you do? Apparently from extensive "research" and youtube videos of other folks talking about their extensive "research". From my experience, my faith is not based in the church, the religion, or what somebody else tells me. It's based on my walk with Jesus, and all of the things He has shown me and that I have been blessed in my life since accepting Him as my Savior. Notice I said nothing about being scared of Him or God, or going to hell if I messed up or did something wrong. It's not about punishment, it's about the blessing you receive simply by believing and trying our best to follow His will. I will ask you this, please miss Christians with this nonsense. You claimed to be a Christian, but are out here trying to convert Christians with this nonsense. It's not going to work on Christians who are strong in their faith, but it may work on some like yourself who are going through a time of weakness in their faith. Which maybe is what you're hoping to do.
Why does this thread exist? To learn and educate. If you are done learning anything new by all means scroll on by. It's an all things religion thread not a Christianity thread
 
Just passing along info for those who may be interested in an alternate view of the TRUE life of Jesus that you wont hear on Sunday. This video explores the lost 18 years of Jesus, where he went, what he learned and his purpose for going. Yes it is 100% opposite of what you were "taught". It's only 30 minutes but a lifetime of wisdom


A quality you will want to strive for as a good investigator is never to take the word of one source such as some video you saw on YouTube. Always corroborate and cross examine the claims with supporting and even disputing information.

The claim that Jesus traveled to India and Nepal during some period of time is quite simply- bogus.

There’s no credible evidence for it.

It originated from a Russian who lived about 100 years ago. This individual and the scenario surrounding the claim was sketchy to say the least and roundly rejected by any reputable scholar. Just because someone claimed it doesn’t make it so.

It originated from a man named Nicolas Notovitch.

Here’s some info on this man and the claims he made: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Notovitch.

One scholar who was alive at the time Notovitch invented this story called the whole thing “a big fat lie.” And, it seems he may have even later admitted that the whole thing was fabricated.

A modern-day scholar (Ehrman) is quoted as saying this about it:

“Today there is not a single recognized scholar on the planet who has any doubts about the matter. The entire story was invented by Notovitch, who earned a good deal of money and a substantial amount of notoriety for his hoax.”

A bunch of other stuff is said in that video you linked, and it appears much of what you’ve been saying here is just a repeat of things the video claims. I’ve neither the time nor the interest in chasing down those rabbit holes. Let me just caution you against blindly accepting those claims at face value.

There are people who spend decades deeply studying the legitimate scrolls and manuscripts along with the cultural and historical settings and have made it their life’s work to study these things. Books have been written on the Jewish context of the world Jesus lived in and His teachings.

The fact of the matter is- when you study the teachings of Jesus, you’ll find someone who was well versed in the Hebrew scriptures. He was constantly quoting scriptures from what we know of as the Old Testament. The much more credible take on Jesus during those 18 years was a carpenter’s son who stayed in Galilee with annual travels to Jerusalem and Judea. He spent those years in and out of synagogues… a much more likely scenario than a fantasy tale that He went to India to be taught by Hindus.
 
A quality you will want to strive for as a good investigator is never to take the word of one source such as some video you saw on YouTube. Always corroborate and cross examine the claims with supporting and even disputing information.

The claim that Jesus traveled to India and Nepal during some period of time is quite simply- bogus.

There’s no credible evidence for it.

It originated from a Russian who lived about 100 years ago. This individual and the scenario surrounding the claim was sketchy to say the least and roundly rejected by any reputable scholar. Just because someone claimed it doesn’t make it so.

It originated from a man named Nicolas Notovitch.

Here’s some info on this man and the claims he made: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Notovitch.

One scholar who was alive at the time Notovitch invented this story called the whole thing “a big fat lie.” And, it seems he may have even later admitted that the whole thing was fabricated.

A modern-day scholar (Ehrman) is quoted as saying this about it:

“Today there is not a single recognized scholar on the planet who has any doubts about the matter. The entire story was invented by Notovitch, who earned a good deal of money and a substantial amount of notoriety for his hoax.”

A bunch of other stuff is said in that video you linked, and it appears much of what you’ve been saying here is just a repeat of things the video claims. I’ve neither the time nor the interest in chasing down those rabbit holes. Let me just caution you against blindly accepting those claims at face value.

There are people who spend decades deeply studying the legitimate scrolls and manuscripts along with the cultural and historical settings and have made it their life’s work to study these things. Books have been written on the Jewish context of the world Jesus lived in and His teachings.

The fact of the matter is- when you study the teachings of Jesus, you’ll find someone who was well versed in the Hebrew scriptures. He was constantly quoting scriptures from what we know of as the Old Testament. The much more credible take on Jesus during those 18 years was a carpenter’s son who stayed in Galilee with annual travels to Jerusalem and Judea. He spent those years in and out of synagogues… a much more likely scenario than a fantasy tale that He went to India to be taught by Hindus.
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Have you ever wondered why we all look different? I mean there are no white races mentioned in the old testament, not one. We somehow went from caveman to being black, brown, white, asian, native american in the blink of an eye with no logical explanation whatsoever in your holy books. You will read some nonsense about the tower of babal but that isn't logical at all now is it? At some point you need to realize that we are a science project and the garden of eden was the lab where it took place. Enoch tried to tell you about the "gods" that came from the sky in chariots of fire. What he was describing was an extra terrestrial in a spaceship. Of course as you well no there was no word for an ET or an alien or even a spaceship so they described what they saw with what they knew. Ezekiel described the same thing people and the Hindu's who proceeded the abrahamic religions by thousands of years described them as the Vimana. The dogon people of Africa have always claimed they were seeded here by ET's. They even knew the star they came from despite the fact that the rest of the world had no clue it existed because you couldn't see it without a telescope. These primative people knew all about our star system and the universe thousands of years ago. The aboriginal people have the same story and they are the oldest people on this planet. At some point you need to start asking real questions about your faith because you aren't getting the complete story.......
 
Have you ever wondered why we all look different? I mean there are no white races mentioned in the old testament, not one. We somehow went from caveman to being black, brown, white, asian, native american in the blink of an eye with no logical explanation whatsoever in your holy books. You will read some nonsense about the tower of babal but that isn't logical at all now is it? At some point you need to realize that we are a science project and the garden of eden was the lab where it took place. Enoch tried to tell you about the "gods" that came from the sky in chariots of fire. What he was describing was an extra terrestrial in a spaceship. Of course as you well no there was no word for an ET or an alien or even a spaceship so they described what they saw with what they knew. Ezekiel described the same thing people and the Hindu's who proceeded the abrahamic religions by thousands of years described them as the Vimana. The dogon people of Africa have always claimed they were seeded here by ET's. They even knew the star they came from despite the fact that the rest of the world had no clue it existed because you couldn't see it without a telescope. These primative people knew all about our star system and the universe thousands of years ago. The aboriginal people have the same story and they are the oldest people on this planet. At some point you need to start asking real questions about your faith because you aren't getting the complete story.......

You do realize that most dog breeds we have originated in the last five hundred years or so due to selective breeding right? The whole ethic origins thing is pretty easy to understand.

And why is it a shock that people several thousand years ago were extremely intelligent? The idea that men are only smart now is a product of modern humanism and the theory of evolution. In all honesty, we are dumb and weak by comparison, propped up by modern medicine and technology.
 
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Have you ever wondered why we all look different? I mean there are no white races mentioned in the old testament, not one. We somehow went from caveman to being black, brown, white, asian, native american in the blink of an eye with no logical explanation whatsoever in your holy books. You will read some nonsense about the tower of babal but that isn't logical at all now is it? At some point you need to realize that we are a science project and the garden of eden was the lab where it took place. Enoch tried to tell you about the "gods" that came from the sky in chariots of fire. What he was describing was an extra terrestrial in a spaceship. Of course as you well no there was no word for an ET or an alien or even a spaceship so they described what they saw with what they knew. Ezekiel described the same thing people and the Hindu's who proceeded the abrahamic religions by thousands of years described them as the Vimana. The dogon people of Africa have always claimed they were seeded here by ET's. They even knew the star they came from despite the fact that the rest of the world had no clue it existed because you couldn't see it without a telescope. These primative people knew all about our star system and the universe thousands of years ago. The aboriginal people have the same story and they are the oldest people on this planet. At some point you need to start asking real questions about your faith because you aren't getting the complete story.......
You’re bouncing around all over the place with all those things. Don’t presume what I’ve studied or not studied. I don’t have the time to go chasing after all these different topics with you. My only interest in even posting this morning was to address that specific claim about Jesus.
 
You do realize that most dog breeds we have originated in the last five hundred years or so due to selective breeding right? The whole ethic origins thing is pretty easy to understand.

And why is it a shock that people several thousand years ago were extremely intelligent? The idea that men are only smart now is a product of modern humanism and the theory of evolution. In all honesty, we are dumb and weak by comparison, propped up by modern medicine and technology.
So explain to me why WE all look different. Different breeds of dog comes from science not magic so it stands to reason that WE are just a science project too. Read the Sumerian text and they will tell you all about where you came from and who created you
 
You’re bouncing around all over the place with all those things. Don’t presume what I’ve studied or not studied. I don’t have the time to go chasing after all these different topics with you. My only interest in even posting this morning was to address that specific claim about Jesus.
You won't chase it because you can't!
 
No- I could. I just don’t see enough benefit to engage the time and the energy when I have other irons in the fire and a job.

While I anticipate your next insult, in the meantime, have a nice day. :)
I'm sorry you took it as an insult but it wasn't. HAGO!
 
So explain to me why WE all look different. Different breeds of dog comes from science not magic so it stands to reason that WE are just a science project too. Read the Sumerian text and they will tell you all about where you came from and who created you

Huh? I am not following your point here; I just did and I’m not even using a religious argument here. Selective breeding over the years causes certain genetics to come to the surface.
 
Huh? I am not following your point here; I just did and I’m not even using a religious argument here. Selective breeding over the years causes certain genetics to come to the surface.
lol.....Do you think the dogs do this themselves? It still takes science and knowledge to do this. The oldest recorded civilization are The Sumerians followed by the Indus Valley, Egypt, Chinese and Greeks. The Sumerians are about 5,000 years old and if you read their text they will tell you all you want to know about where you came from and I hate to tell you but you are indeed an extra terrestrial science project or as you call it "selective breeding". The Sumerian text have you answers you just have to be brave enough to dare to take a look. That's not a slam or an insult, it's giving you an opportunity to learn something new that you probably didn't know about. There were virgin births in all of these ancient text. Now using logic what do you think that actually is? We do it today, it's call invitro fertilization
 
Why does this thread exist? To learn and educate. If you are done learning anything new by all means scroll on by. It's an all things religion thread not a Christianity thread
It's a religion thread, and you clearly stated a few pages ago that you don't have a religion. So you are essentially coming on the religion thread to tell everyone that they are close minded, ignorant, and/or uninformed because they don't believe in your non-religion, extra terrestrial, Sumerian belief system. Why not just create a thread for All Things Sumerian Extra Terrestrial Belief System to inform everyone?
 
It's a religion thread, and you clearly stated a few pages ago that you don't have a religion. So you are essentially coming on the religion thread to tell everyone that they are close minded, ignorant, and/or uninformed because they don't believe in your non-religion, extra terrestrial, Sumerian belief system. Why not just create a thread for All Things Sumerian Extra Terrestrial Belief System to inform everyone?
Nobody is making you read it or respond to it. My point is that religion as you have been taught is a falsehood. If you can't speak out against religion then change the name to religion cheerleading thread
 
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