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Man, I can see that you are not going to budge on this belief that everything is going to be ok. It saddens me to watch folks deny the gospel and continue on their path. I wish that God would, just once, open your eyes and let you see the real picture. You are a good person, but good works will not get you into Heaven.
Just curious ..... what do you think a man has to do to go to Heaven? Do you even believe in Heaven?
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
Man, I can see that you are not going to budge on this belief that everything is going to be ok. It saddens me to watch folks deny the gospel and continue on their path. I wish that God would, just once, open your eyes and let you see the real picture. You are a good person, but good works will not get you into Heaven.
Just curious ..... what do you think a man has to do to go to Heaven? Do you even believe in Heaven?
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I have told you guys time and again I know there is a creator but that creator is consciousness not a man. I know reincarnation is real just as the earliest Christians did, that Jesus did and that means there is no heaven or hell as you "believe" there is. Heaven is what Hindus refers to as Nirvana. I have had a near death experience and it showed me what is to come and it's not judgement. I don't think I'm the one in here that isn't willing to budge. I called myself a Christian for 45 years. I have studied the ancient text that came before the Bible and that is what opened my eyes to the truth. I gave you plenty of opportunities in this conversation to see what else is out there but it's you who refuses to budge. You look into near death experiencers and you will find EXACTLY what I have been telling you because the large majority of people who have gone through one will tell you we have it all backwards. We are eternal light beings with a soul that occupies a container you call a body.
 
Sandbar said:
You are a spiritual being having a human experience not the other way around. The creator is consciousness not some old man in the sky. Look into hermeticism and you will have your answer because that is exactly where Christianity came from before the church created a religion to control you with fear. I can't make you see it you have to want to see it but you don't want to even consider it out of nothing but FEAR. I have told you guys multiple times that fear and love cannot coexist but you live by this creed that has been instilled in you to fear the Lord. Why would you fear something that is supposed to love you? It makes zero sense whatsoever but fear works for you for some odd reason
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If you believe that fear and love can’t coexist, you have definitely never had kids.
 
Arcc said:
If you believe that fear and love can’t coexist, you have definitely never had kids.
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If you require scripture here you go. I have 3 kids

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The verse from 1 John 4:18 states, "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear,"

Since you brought up kids let's have a look. I'm sure you love yours with all your heart as I do. I'm pretty sure your thought is that the creator loves them even more as only the highest could. Would you throw your kids in a furnace for doing something awful? The answer is NO so why would the creator? The answer is the creator wouldn't and doesn't do you have no reason to 'fear the lord'. If you do awful things in this life you simply have karma to work off in your next. Think of it as earth being a school where you learn lessons. You screw up you repeat the grade. You screw up really bad you go back to the beginning
 
On a separate note, what is your thoughts on these UAP's that are showing up everywhere? There is a new insane video every day. How does that affect your religious beliefs? How will you react when you find out the truth we aren't alone?
 
Sandbar said:
If you require scripture here you go. I have 3 kids

Biblical reference:
The verse from 1 John 4:18 states, "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear,"

Since you brought up kids let's have a look. I'm sure you love yours with all your heart as I do. I'm pretty sure your thought is that the creator loves them even more as only the highest could. Would you throw your kids in a furnace for doing something awful? The answer is NO so why would the creator? The answer is the creator wouldn't and doesn't do you have no reason to 'fear the lord'. If you do awful things in this life you simply have karma to work off in your next. Think of it as earth being a school where you learn lessons. You screw up you repeat the grade. You screw up really bad you go back to the beginning
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First of all, read the whole chapter and then get back to me. Pulling one verse out of context is just silly.

Secondly, you didn’t disprove my point, love and fear absolutely coexist. If you have children like you say you do, you know that this is absolutely true.

Edit: In fact, read all of 1st John and then let’s see if it lines up with your thoughts.
 
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Arcc said:
First of all, read the whole chapter and then get back to me. Pulling one verse out of context is just silly.

Secondly, you didn’t disprove my point, love and fear absolutely coexist. If you have children like you say you do, you know that this is absolutely true.

Edit: In fact, read all of 1st John and then let’s see if it lines up with your thoughts.
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Would you throw your child in a furnace for screwing up?
 
Sandbar said:
Would you throw your child in a furnace for screwing up?
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Does God throw his children into furnaces for failing? I can’t seem to find that in scripture. I can find where people who reject his warnings, who are not his children will fall into a furnace.

I can beg and plead and threaten my children to not play in the road, but I cannot prevent them should they be deadset to disobey my warnings.
 
Arcc said:
Does God throw his children into furnaces for failing? I can’t seem to find that in scripture. I can find where people who reject his warnings, who are not his children will fall into a furnace.

I can beg and plead and threaten my children to not play in the road, but I cannot prevent them should they be deadset to disobey my warnings.
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All his post has not once lined up with the Bible. If someone gonna talk about there beliefs that’s fine but can you line up the scriptures?
 
Arcc said:
Does God throw his children into furnaces for failing? I can’t seem to find that in scripture. I can find where people who reject his warnings, who are not his children will fall into a furnace.

I can beg and plead and threaten my children to not play in the road, but I cannot prevent them should they be deadset to disobey my warnings.
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We are ALL God's children and one of us are going to hell despite your lust for punishing people who don't believe the same fear based nonsense you do.
 
Sandbar said:
We are ALL God's children and one of us are going to hell despite your lust for punishing people who don't believe the same fear based nonsense you do.
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Why should I be good then? What’s the point? If no matter what I do in life I am still rewarded like the person who did nothing but good. In that case, why shouldn’t my entire life be dedicated to accumulating as much wealth and only pursuing pleasure no matter who I hurt in the process. If I wanted to kill people what’s stopping me? After all nothing matters , the murderer and the murdered are on equal footing. We are all gods creation and all of us were gifted free will, do with it as you please but there has to be justice

You will answer God one day for your actions in this life sandbar
 
LickWx said:
Why should I be good then? What’s the point? If no matter what I do in life I am still rewarded like the person who did nothing but good. In that case, why shouldn’t my entire life be dedicated to accumulating as much wealth and only pursuing pleasure no matter who I hurt in the process. If I wanted to kill people what’s stopping me? After all nothing matters , the murderer and the murdered are on equal footing. We are all gods creation and all of us were gifted free will, do with it as you please but there has to be justice

You will answer God one day for your actions in this life sandbar
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So which one of you is right? We can't all be right according to what I have been told here so how about you 2 get together, battle and let me know who wins!
 
Sandbar said:
We are ALL God's children and one of us are going to hell despite your lust for punishing people who don't believe the same fear based nonsense you do.
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Was Hitler God’s child? Stalin? Is Putin God’s child?

What about Obama, Biden, Tom Cruise, Diddy, Mark Hamill? I’m curious.
 
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Sandbar said:
Yes
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Then in reality, nothing matters. Any horrible crime really isn’t and life is completely devoid of meaning or purpose. Our conversation, pointless and a waste of time.

Welcome, you have now arrived a evolutionary Humanism. Enjoy your stay.
 
Arcc said:
Then in reality, nothing matters. Any horrible crime really isn’t and life is completely devoid of meaning or purpose.
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I have already told you it matters. It's called karma. I started working mine off a year ago
 
Arcc said:
Was Hitler God’s child? Stalin? Is Putin God’s child?

What about Obama, Biden, Tom Cruise, Diddy? I’m curious.
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God has no children in the human sense and it personifies God who is not human, we are all Gods creations and have free will . There are rules to this life , it is your choice to follow them or not
 
Sandbar said:
I have already told you it matters. It's called karma. I started working mine off a year ago
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Karma? So you have a sense of justice and now it sounds like we are all judged… interesting . Interesting how you can not escape the idea of justice and divorce it from the creator
 
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