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Sandbar said:
You didn't address anything. You just confirmed your own Christian bias and YES we can all be correct because there is no one way or one truth on the other side. That's something somebody told you and you "believe it". The real problem with religous people such as yourself is that you insist you are right and everybody else is wrong and THAT is what is nonsense. I could just as easily say you have ZERO understanding of God, Jesus, Christianity or the Bible. I'm not sure if you know this but not all scholars agree within your own religion. That tells me enough
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I didn't address anything and said I would not in my post... mainly because it's all been addressed before.

Sandbar, if people are expressing different world views that proclaim different truths they cannot all be correct. Further, if truth is just relative then there there is no absolute truth. So, is your assertion that "YES we can all be correct because there is no one way or one truth on the other side" an absolute truth? If so it is self defeating. If not then it is false.

I already addressed the issue of "me being right and everybody else being wrong" in post 2016. There is such a thing as right and wrong. We cannot do a lot of science or any mathematics without it. We couldn't arrive at what is true or false without it. Now I may not actually know what is true, but it is out there regardless if I, you, or anyone else knows it or not.

As for scholars; I mean there are scholars that proclaim all kinds of things. I am not taking their word on any of those issues, I try to look into them myself.

I am trying to have a fair discussion with you but you have to get off the train of "someone told me to think that way." I have addressed that several times and either you don't believe me (your choice but I would hope you would have more respect for me than that), you don't bother to read it, you can't see past your assumptions, or you just want to go round and round.
 
Iceagewhereartthou said:
I didn't address anything and said I would not in my post... mainly because it's all been addressed before.

Sandbar, if people are expressing different world views that proclaim different truths they cannot all be correct. Further, if truth is just relative then there there is no absolute truth. So, is your assertion that "YES we can all be correct because there is no one way or one truth on the other side" an absolute truth? If so it is self defeating. If not then it is false.

I already addressed the issue of "me being right and everybody else being wrong" in post 2016. There is such a thing as right and wrong. We cannot do a lot of science or any mathematics without it. We couldn't arrive at what is true or false without it. Now I may not actually know what is true, but it is out there regardless if I, you, or anyone else knows it or not.

As for scholars; I mean there are scholars that proclaim all kinds of things. I am not taking their word on any of those issues, I try to look into them myself.

I am trying to have a fair discussion with you but you have to get off the train of "someone told me to think that way." I have addressed that several times and either you don't believe me (your choice but I would hope you would have more respect for me than that), you don't bother to read it, you can't see past your assumptions, or you just want to go round and round.
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Equation #1 2+2 = 4
Equation #2 3+1 = 4

Both different. Which is right and which is wrong? For the sake of argument lets call Equation #1 Christianity and Equation #2 spirituality

I can live in a world where we are all right and get what we desire in the afterlife. It's you and other religous people that can't accept that because it's the only way you can make your equation work
 
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