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Sandbar said:
Spiritual people believe our souls come into our bodies with a life plan based on your past life's karma we carry over to the spirit world. You judge yourself at your passing with a life review based on what you had hoped to learn in that life. Your review consist of not only your perspective but you also see things from the perspective of those you did good deeds for or even those you wronged. Perhaps in your previous life you hated black people so to work off that karma you came back as a black person. The goal of every soul is to love unconditionally, to be christ like. That may take 1,000 lives in this dimension but there is no time in the spirit world. I have watched hundreds of near death experiencers stories and the large majority of them back up what I am saying. The abrahamic religions are based on fear, judgement and punishment. That doesn't sound at all like unconditional love to me. I have Native American blood in my veins. I didn't dump religion I simply saw through the veil as my spiritual ancestors did.
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But, what makes hating black people wrong and who said we must love unconditionally? Who states what is a good deed? Is shunning the Untouchables a good deed? What about jailing a trouble maker who breaks traditional values and upsets a nation? Does forcing people to do good things count as a good deed?
 
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Sandbar said:
In mysticism the Trinity is father, mother, child. The divine feminine breaths life into the soul and is the mother of all creation. Mother nature and the universe are one


“I Believe in Mysticism, with an Interior Goal, and You are your Own Temple and your Own Priest.

I don't believe anymore in religions, because you see today there are religious wars, prejudice, false morals, and the woman is despised.
Religion is too old now; it's from another century, it's not for today.”

~~Alejandro Jodorowsky~~
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But, Mother Nature is by essence extremely violent and full of kill or be killed, prejudice and control by force.
 
Arcc said:
But, what makes hating black people wrong and who said we must love unconditionally? Who states what is a good deed? Is shunning the Untouchables a good deed? What about jailing a trouble maker who breaks traditional values and upsets a nation? Does forcing people to do good things count as a good deed?
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Universal laws are what we are bound to in the afterlife
 
Arcc said:
But, Mother Nature is by essence extremely violent and full of kill or be killed, prejudice and control by force.
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Yes she can be but she never ordered me to kill my enemies. I can show you in your holy book where it does. The great mother has never ordered anyone to sacrifice a child to prove loyalty but I can show you in your holy book where it does. In fact I can show you lots of awful things in your holy book. Mother nature has no book for you to compare. Mother nature is life, that holy book is manmade and open to interpretation which is why you have dozens of them. Would you jump off a cliff if that book told you too? Many of you adhere to it so tightly that I think you would
 
Sandbar said:
Do you think your way is the only way?
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Yes, because I do believe the Bible is The Holy Word divinely inspired by God. And that Jesus is the Messiah and the Son of the Triune Godhead, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who died, was buried, and rose from the dead as the true Sacrificial Lamb who atoned for all the sins of those who believe in Him.

I do not try to force that on you or tell you that you are less for not believing this. You have free will to believe what you like and none of us will know until we die.
 
MRStorm said:
Yes, because I do believe the Bible is The Holy Word divinely inspired by God. And that Jesus is the Messiah and the Son of the Triune Godhead, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who died, was buried, and rose from the dead as the true Sacrificial Lamb who atoned for all the sins of those who believe in Him.

I do not try to force that on you or tell you that you are less for not believing this. You have free will to believe what you like and none of us will know until we die.
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Yes you have free will to believe whatever. If you want to be judged you probably will and should be if that's your belief. I do not believe so I won't be. "Believing" is NOT KNOWING. That's the difference between religion and spirituality. You believe, I know. Simple as that. We all get what we want in the end right?
 
It depends on who is "right" in the end. If what other Christians and I believe is correct, I don't think you will get the "what we want in the end" that you are expecting. And you can say the same thing about us.
 
Arcc said:
But, what makes hating black people wrong and who said we must love unconditionally? Who states what is a good deed? Is shunning the Untouchables a good deed? What about jailing a trouble maker who breaks traditional values and upsets a nation? Does forcing people to do good things count as a good deed?
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The Bible said the children of Ham and Canaan are cursed therefore us non whites are cursed… never forget the curse of Ham
 
Sandbar said:
Yes you have free will to believe whatever. If you want to be judged you probably will and should be if that's your belief. I do not believe so I won't be. "Believing" is NOT KNOWING. That's the difference between religion and spirituality. You believe, I know. Simple as that. We all get what we want in the end right?
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For a guy who doesn’t believe in religious fairy tales you sure do seem to buy into Jewish ones and their justification of Israel
 
MRStorm said:
It depends on who is "right" in the end. If what other Christians and I believe is correct, I don't think you will get the "what we want in the end" that you are expecting. And you can say the same thing about us.
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Again you believe, I know. Why would the creator choose one over the other? Nothing anywhere, in any book points to any religion being "The One". that is just utter nonsense
 
Sandbar said:
Again you believe, I know. Why would the creator choose one over the other? Nothing anywhere, in any book points to any religion being "The One". that is just utter nonsense
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There you go again belittling and talking down to us saying our beliefs are "utter nonsense". I won't do the same to you. We will have to agree to disagree. I respect your right to believe what you believe.
 
MRStorm said:
There you go again belittling and talking down to us saying our beliefs are "utter nonsense". I won't do the same to you. We will have to agree to disagree. I respect your right to believe what you believe.
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I said what you were being taught is nonsense. I'm not belittling you or talking down to you or asking you to defend what you believe but I apologize if I hurt your feelings, it wasn't intentional
 
Sandbar said:
Yes she can be but she never ordered me to kill my enemies. I can show you in your holy book where it does. The great mother has never ordered anyone to sacrifice a child to prove loyalty but I can show you in your holy book where it does. In fact I can show you lots of awful things in your holy book. Mother nature has no book for you to compare. Mother nature is life, that holy book is manmade and open to interpretation which is why you have dozens of them. Would you jump off a cliff if that book told you too? Many of you adhere to it so tightly that I think you would
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Once again, this shows you have ZERO understanding of God, Jesus, Christianity, or the Bible. None. Most of these have been well discussed in the thread (I know, because I personally addressed some of them) so I will not go through them all again. We're all free to believe whatever we want. There is only one reality and truth so we can't all be correct and arrive at the same place.
 
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Once again, this shows you have ZERO understanding of God, Jesus, Christianity, or the Bible. None. Most of these have been well discussed in the thread (I know, because I personally addressed some of them) so I will not go through them all again. We're all free to believe whatever we want. There is only one reality and truth so we can't all be correct and arrive at the same place.
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You didn't address anything. You just confirmed your own Christian bias and YES we can all be correct because there is no one way or one truth on the other side. That's something somebody told you and you "believe it". The real problem with religous people such as yourself is that you insist you are right and everybody else is wrong and THAT is what is nonsense. I could just as easily say you have ZERO understanding of God, Jesus, Christianity or the Bible. I'm not sure if you know this but not all scholars agree within your own religion. That tells me enough
 
If anyone is interested, and I doubt you are there is a gentleman named Paul Wallis who does a great job of breaking down and making a compelling case for why the Bible is misinterpreted and inaccurate if you care to explore further. He is a well known biblical scholar
 
Sandbar said:
Yes she can be but she never ordered me to kill my enemies. I can show you in your holy book where it does. The great mother has never ordered anyone to sacrifice a child to prove loyalty but I can show you in your holy book where it does. In fact I can show you lots of awful things in your holy book. Mother nature has no book for you to compare. Mother nature is life, that holy book is manmade and open to interpretation which is why you have dozens of them. Would you jump off a cliff if that book told you too? Many of you adhere to it so tightly that I think you would
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Based on what? Many say that man is just an animal and acts out what our instincts tell us to do. Considering nature normally is about the conquer the weak by force, then it would be prudent to think that nature told you to do the same correct?

The last sentences are just goofy, because it doesn’t.
 
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Arcc said:
Based on what? Many say that man is just an animal and acts out what our instincts tell us to do. Considering nature normally is about the conquer the weak by force, then it would be prudent to think that nature told you to do the same correct?

The last sentences are just goofy, because it doesn’t.
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No the Navy told me to conquer the weak by force
 
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