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Misc 2020 Banter Thread

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Ollie Williams said:
I heard a loud band, and looked outside to see if the world was ending. Luckily we’re good!
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Went for a super foggy nighttime beach walk and somebody had written creepy messages in the sand. “Leave now” and “you’re gone” and “I kill” so to say I was slightly unnerved is an understatement.
 
Does anyone know when the updated climate normals (1991-2020) are typically released? Is it usually quickly after the new year, or does it take a few months?
 
CyclonicFury said:
Does anyone know when the updated climate normals (1991-2020) are typically released? Is it usually quickly after the new year, or does it take a few months?
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A few months unfortunately, but the raw data is available on nowdata of course ! This set of normals will be the most extensive set ever . There will be multiple kinds of normals that are calculated differently ( they did that a bit for 81-10 I can share those for y’all ) , normals for offshore locations in the mid Atlantic ( hopefully southeast as well) , interpolated normals for more places that don’t have stations and more ! Probably won’t be till the spring at earliest that we see any of it.
 
@Tarheel1 vs onset ice birdman vs not in mby brick vs southeast ridge stew point Stan . Who you got? I think stewpoint Stan comes out on top when he hits everybody with the it can’t snow in March or hit 70 in November card. Could be wrong tho , onset ice birdman might hit everyone with the mega BOOM BOOM WHEN THUNDER ROARDS GO INDOORS CAD. Underdog is brick.
 
Lickwx said:
@Tarheel1 vs onset ice birdman vs not in mby brick vs southeast ridge stew point Stan . Who you got? I think stewpoint Stan comes out on top when he hits everybody with the it can’t snow in March or hit 70 in November card. Could be wrong tho , onset ice birdman might hit everyone with the mega BOOM BOOM WHEN THUNDER ROARDS GO INDOORS CAD. Underdog is brick.
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Brick killed a guy.
 
Based on the NOWDATA, I have calculated the *unofficial* 1991-2020 normals for RDU airport. Interestingly, the 1981-2010 normals on the NOAA website were all 0.3-0.6°F higher than on the NOWDATA website, so it is possible these normals get revised a bit upward (perhaps due to a calibration issue?)

Average high temperature by month (change from official 1981-2010 climo based on NOAA website):
  • January: 51.6°F (+0.7°F)
  • February: 55.5°F (+0.3°F)
  • March: 63.1°F (-0.3°F)
  • April: 72.5°F (+0.1°F)
  • May: 79.7°F (+0.1°F)
  • June: 87.1°F (+0.1°F)
  • July: 90.5°F (+0.3°F)
  • August: 88.4°F (no change)
  • September: 82.2°F (+0.1°F)
  • October: 72.8°F (+0.1°F)
  • November: 62.8°F (-0.8°F)
  • December: 54.5°F (+0.9°F)
Average low temperature by month (change from official 1981-2010 climo based on NOAA website):
  • January: 31.5°F (+0.5°F)
  • February: 33.8°F (no change)
  • March: 40.0°F (+0.1°F)
  • April: 48.5°F (+0.5°F)
  • May: 57.4°F (+0.9°F)
  • June: 65.7°F (-0.1°F)
  • July: 69.9°F (no change)
  • August: 68.5°F (-0.1°F)
  • September: 62.3°F (+0.6°F)
  • October: 50.0°F (+0.2°F)
  • November: 39.6°F (-1.2°F)
  • December: 34.2°F (+0.9°F)
I'll do the calculations for precipitation and snowfall later, but as you would expect in a warming climate, the majority of months' average high and low temperatures increased, with the notable exception of November (likely a result of several recent cool Novembers). Considering the finalized 1981-2010 normals increased from the raw data, it is likely that the climo high and low temperatures for all months will increase for every month except November.
 
CyclonicFury said:
Based on the NOWDATA, I have calculated the *unofficial* 1991-2020 normals for RDU airport. Interestingly, the 1981-2010 normals on the NOAA website were all 0.3-0.6°F higher than on the NOWDATA website, so it is possible these normals get revised a bit upward (perhaps due to a calibration issue?)

Average high temperature by month (change from official 1981-2010 climo based on NOAA website):
  • January: 51.6°F (+0.7°F)
  • February: 55.5°F (+0.3°F)
  • March: 63.1°F (-0.3°F)
  • April: 72.5°F (+0.1°F)
  • May: 79.7°F (+0.1°F)
  • June: 87.1°F (+0.1°F)
  • July: 90.5°F (+0.3°F)
  • August: 88.4°F (no change)
  • September: 82.2°F (+0.1°F)
  • October: 72.8°F (+0.1°F)
  • November: 62.8°F (-0.8°F)
  • December: 54.5°F (+0.9°F)
Average low temperature by month (change from official 1981-2010 climo based on NOAA website):
  • January: 31.5°F (+0.5°F)
  • February: 33.8°F (no change)
  • March: 40.0°F (+0.1°F)
  • April: 48.5°F (+0.5°F)
  • May: 57.4°F (+0.9°F)
  • June: 65.7°F (-0.1°F)
  • July: 69.9°F (no change)
  • August: 68.5°F (-0.1°F)
  • September: 62.3°F (+0.6°F)
  • October: 50.0°F (+0.2°F)
  • November: 39.6°F (-1.2°F)
  • December: 34.2°F (+0.9°F)
I'll do the calculations for precipitation and snowfall later, but as you would expect in a warming climate, the majority of months' average high and low temperatures increased, with the notable exception of November (likely a result of several recent cool Novembers). Considering the finalized 1981-2010 normals increased from the raw data, it is likely that the climo high and low temperatures for all months will increase for every month except November.
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You have to compare the 1991-2020 raw to 1981-2010 raw . Your comparison is raw unadjusted 1991-2020 to adjusted 1981-2010. If we do that RDU actually didn’t warm even a fraction of a degree . However comparing raw 81-10 to raw 91-20 we find the annual mean increased by .7. Here is raw 81-10 vs raw 91-20 which once final normals are published in may , will be the difference between normals 81-10 vs normals 91-20. I made a 1991-2020 box using the raw 91-20 data but with the same changes made to 81-10 to make what I think will likely be close to the final product . Will post it later

High
Jan- +1.1
Feb- +.7
March- +.2
April - +.5
May- +.5
June- +.5
July - +.9
Aug - +.4
Sep- +.6
Oct- +.5
Nov- -.5
Dec- +1.3

Low
Jan- +.9
Feb- +.7
March- +.7
April- +1.1
May- +1.5
Jun- + .5
July - +.6
Aug- +.5
Sep- +1.2
Oct- +.8
Nov- -.5
Dec- +1.4

We find that November only actually cooled by .5 degrees .
 
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