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The number one reason I asked to be a moderator here was because of what I saw happening to SE forum at American. I wanted to help make this forum the best it can be. We can have fun and discuss the weather while keeping the moderating fair and reasonable.
I started out on American. I am not knowledgeable about weather the way you guys are but I have a love and fascination for weather. I dont say much because I dont have anything I can contribute. When I have asked a question it's always been answered kindly. That was not the case on American. Thank you all for tolerating us that dont know a lot but are trying to learn. This is a great forum with so many knowledgeable people. I hope 1 day I will be able to post more and offer an educated dialogue with everyone!
 
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Lol literally this. It's actually crazy in a time few will probably remember in the very beginnings of this place, but 1300m and I during our first few interactions got along quite well but along the way, things went sour (not really sure where) and they only exacerbated with time reaching a precipice here this evening. Btw, I'm not sure if he was the catalyst for this or not, but I know 1300m worked at the climate office a while back and their winter storm database is actually what really gave me the inspiration to do one of my own in more scrupulous detail that I've shown on here from time to time going back to 1895 and available thru 1938 (for now anyways haha :) ) & maybe someday it'll become doctoral thesis.
I've made sure to cross my Ts and dot my Is with many of these analyses and take detailed notes of observational discrepancies, errors, or changes I've made and providing solid reasoning behind said change. Just eyeballing what I have so far based on crude estimates I've made evaluating seasonal snowfall at 300 locations across NC, this winter storm we just saw (even before the ULL tomorrow) probably has already put us ahead of something like 30-50% of ENTIRE winters in the early 20th century. And to think we still have a lot of December, January, & February to go esp in an El Nino winter after all, that's usually backloaded af here and often doesn't snow significantly til January or even February.
https://www.webberweather.com/
 
He uses social media mostly, especially Twitter that's the theme these days
I know Allan Huffman would not come over, but he hardly posts there anymore, either. Matthew East would be a great addition. But I think we can have a great group over here.

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Looks like everyone is a little grouchy. Please get some sleep tonight, LOL. You 2 are both grounded from staying up for the Euro tonight!!
I think we can all agree that this place is far superior to American, and that we need it to consider to prosper. Yall are two of our most knowledgable posters, we need to stay together here.


This place is indeed far superior than American. Why are they so Carolina centric ?

I initially went on there 4 years ago and every single post was focused on Carolina. That's when I switched to talk weather.

I checked today and it's still the same. Just about every poster is from Carolina. It's like the rest of the Southeast doesn't exist to them.
 
This place is indeed far superior than American. Why are they so Carolina centric ?

I initially went on there 4 years ago and every single post was focused on Carolina. That's when I switched to talk weather.

I checked today and it's still the same. Just about every poster is from Carolina. It's like the rest of the Southeast doesn't exist to them.
It's likely because they scared away most of the posters from the other SE states or they pushed them into another part of the board. I'm glad this board has quite a larger variety of posters. I would love to see more Florida posters in addition to Phil, and more from MS, AR, TN, and other states where members aren't as frequently found.
 
I started out on American. I am not knowledgeable about weather the way you guys are but I have a love and fascination for weather. I dont say much because I dont have anything I can contribute. When I have asked a question it's always been answered kindly. That was not the case on American. Thank you all for tolerating us that dont know a lot but are trying to learn. This is a great forum with so many knowledgeable people. I hope 1 day I will be able to post more and offer an educated dialogue with everyone!

Well said - And Amen!
 
It's likely because they scared away most of the posters from the other SE states or they pushed them into another part of the board. I'm glad this board has quite a larger variety of posters. I would love to see more Florida posters in addition to Phil, and more from MS, AR, TN, and other states where members aren't as frequently found.
FS,
Unless I'm very sadly mistaken, this place is about weather, regardless of where someone lives, unless IMBY is really doing something unusual or phenomenal ... and most of the discussion here is more oriented to weather and not local raindrops ... whereas elsewhere ... :confused:; the observations, thoughts and analysis on SouthernWx from Texas about NC, and from GA about Tenn, and from NC about FL and on and on ... are about weather and not ego ... and to one old Curmudgeon, that's the ticket to success ... ;)
 
I know Allan Huffman would not come over, but he hardly posts there anymore, either. Matthew East would be a great addition. But I think we can have a great group over here.
Yeah not sure what happened, but they no longer have Allan's model suite over there. Steve Nelson from FFC would be an awesome addition over here. He posts occasionally on amwx.
 
Lol literally this. It's actually crazy in a time few will probably remember in the very beginnings of this place, but 1300m and I during our first few interactions got along quite well but along the way, things went sour (not really sure where) and they only exacerbated with time reaching a precipice here this evening. Btw, I'm not sure if he was the catalyst for this or not, but I know 1300m worked at the climate office a while back and their winter storm database is actually what really gave me the inspiration to do one of my own in more scrupulous detail that I've shown on here from time to time going back to 1895 and available thru 1938 (for now anyways haha :) ) & maybe someday it'll become doctoral thesis.
I've made sure to cross my Ts and dot my Is with many of these analyses and take detailed notes of observational discrepancies, errors, or changes I've made and providing solid reasoning behind said change. Just eyeballing what I have so far based on crude estimates I've made evaluating seasonal snowfall at 300 locations across NC, this winter storm we just saw (even before the ULL tomorrow) probably has already put us ahead of something like 30-50% of ENTIRE winters in the early 20th century. And to think we still have a lot of December, January, & February to go esp in an El Nino winter after all, that's usually backloaded af here and often doesn't snow significantly til January or even February.
https://www.webberweather.com/
I actually programmed the winter storm database from scratch. It was my idea and the first time I had ever coded in PHP! That's really cool that it inspired you to go even further - there are a lot of things I wanted to add to it before I left but didn't (like more extensive reanalysis data for each storm).

Yeah man, when I first joined I really enjoyed those storms where we were both in unison. I'm not sure where the train went off the tracks, but I know that I didn't handle it the best. I think the Webber 1300m ensemble is a strong one, and that coastal storm where we and delta were on it and it was almost us against the world for snow west of I-95 was a highlight of my winter storm forecasting career haha (besting not only NWP but NWS as well - sucks we got the shaft, but our thoughts were completely legit).

I think where I need to be more mindful is if I don't see a certain aspect of the pattern the same way, stating it or discussing it without being so cut and dry about it. I don't intend to come off like you're a moron for not seeing it my way, but unfortunately I am a pretty cut to the chase kind of poster, and so it must read that way. I actually value when someone as intelligent as Webber is seeing things differently than I am, as it makes me go back and revisit my own analysis to see if I am overlooking something myself.

Again, thanks for the dialog on what the issue was. In the future, if something I say seems to be undermining your thoughts or seems critical, shoot me a PM man. I'm really not that way - I have three other meteorologist colleagues I work with, and all three of them disagreed with me on the amount of Wake County snow with this storm but being able to talk about it in person is just a lot easier than trying to do it all through text. I really think the reason that we have conflict at times is because we are more alike than different, both in our aggressive forecasting style and strong convictions on certain aspects of how patterns should evolve.

P.S. Your snowfall maps inspired me to up my game on my own when making forecast maps!
 
This place is indeed far superior than American. Why are they so Carolina centric ?

I initially went on there 4 years ago and every single post was focused on Carolina. That's when I switched to talk weather.

I checked today and it's still the same. Just about every poster is from Carolina. It's like the rest of the Southeast doesn't exist to them.

It's likely because they scared away most of the posters from the other SE states or they pushed them into another part of the board. I'm glad this board has quite a larger variety of posters. I would love to see more Florida posters in addition to Phil, and more from MS, AR, TN, and other states where members aren't as frequently found.

You guys don't know how happy am I to find a board with a ton of other Metro Atlanta posters to discuss weather with.

I thought it was just me whp noticed that as far as the bolded. :)
 
They should've never spent $100m on Ryan; maybe then they could build a team..
Agreed. Atlanta situation is similar to Green Bay’s also. They spent all that money on Arron Rodgers (which I do think he is top 5 qb of all time). But he has no good supporting cast.
 
Panthers suck.... I'll say it again time to reset. New coach, new QB, O-line, D-backs, time to rebuild

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Agreed with all.

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But they do have a good running in McCarthy.
Another thing that is wrong with Carolina they need some new receivers also.

I went to a titans game earlier in the year. I would like to see Atlanta and Carolina in their stadiums. That would be neat. Probably could get some cheap tickets right now since they are struggling.
 
I actually programmed the winter storm database from scratch. It was my idea and the first time I had ever coded in PHP! That's really cool that it inspired you to go even further - there are a lot of things I wanted to add to it before I left but didn't (like more extensive reanalysis data for each storm).

Yeah man, when I first joined I really enjoyed those storms where we were both in unison. I'm not sure where the train went off the tracks, but I know that I didn't handle it the best. I think the Webber 1300m ensemble is a strong one, and that coastal storm where we and delta were on it and it was almost us against the world for snow west of I-95 was a highlight of my winter storm forecasting career haha (besting not only NWP but NWS as well - sucks we got the shaft, but our thoughts were completely legit).

I think where I need to be more mindful is if I don't see a certain aspect of the pattern the same way, stating it or discussing it without being so cut and dry about it. I don't intend to come off like you're a moron for not seeing it my way, but unfortunately I am a pretty cut to the chase kind of poster, and so it must read that way. I actually value when someone as intelligent as Webber is seeing things differently than I am, as it makes me go back and revisit my own analysis to see if I am overlooking something myself.

Again, thanks for the dialog on what the issue was. In the future, if something I say seems to be undermining your thoughts or seems critical, shoot me a PM man. I'm really not that way - I have three other meteorologist colleagues I work with, and all three of them disagreed with me on the amount of Wake County snow with this storm but being able to talk about it in person is just a lot easier than trying to do it all through text. I really think the reason that we have conflict at times is because we are more alike than different, both in our aggressive forecasting style and strong convictions on certain aspects of how patterns should evolve.

P.S. Your snowfall maps inspired me to up my game on my own when making forecast maps!

Oh ok! I had a really strong feeling for the longest time it was you who did this, and that archive has become one of the big staples of the NC Climate Office, I think now with better reanalysis datasets like ERA-20C being released after your stint at NSCO, something like you've been yearning for can become a reality!

I didn't handle it the best either obviously and I too feel very ashamed this feud dragged on so long but it's better late than never that this is finally over!

"I think the Webber 1300m ensemble is a strong one"

Exactly, I highly doubt the combined effort, knowledge, & forecasting capability/prowess of any other 2 individuals in our neck of the woods on winter storms in NC can match us as a tandem. If nothing else, it's pretty apparent from how most bloggers have reacted to the truce between us this evening that we're probably the 2 biggest dogs this place has in the fight to eventually supersede and (hopefully) someday dismantle americanwx and it's paramount that at the very least we don't destructively interfere with one another from here on out to accomplish this underlying goal. Not to toot our own horn here, but if you go back & look at some of the storms we've seen around here the last few years, there's really or next to nothing that manages to get by both of us (if there is, then we have a problem lol), just look at this storm as an example. While both of us got certain aspects of the forecast wrong (I obviously botched Wake Co and the Triad, but had a good handle on the areas outside the marginal snow-ice zone, and western NC and generally vis versa in your case). If you only took the parts that both or one of us got right and used that in your outlook, you'd be virtually left with a perfect forecast across the state which is actually a pretty scary thought. The big winter storm in the middle of last January is another fine example, we both pretty much locked onto big totals of 4-8"/5-9"+ early in the game in/around RDU when others dragged their feet until it was obviously way too late.

I definitely will message you if I run into a problem! Yeah, you can't beat in-person, face-to-face communication, there's so much that can be misinterpreted or get lost in the translation behind a computer screen s.t. quarrels like the one we've been in for the better part of a couple years can progressively exacerbate and become out of control when the reality is far more tame & very civil.


"I really think the reason that we have conflict at times is because we are more alike than different, both in our aggressive forecasting style and strong convictions on certain aspects of how patterns should evolve."

Totally agree on this. When one or both of us sees something in the storm's evolution that's important or something few, if any other forecasters, outlets, or bloggers will capture, it's exceptionally hard to convince us otherwise and when you put 2 people like that in a room together it's no surprise how a potential problem could arise from that. I too often go back & check/re-evaluate my own ideas when you catch onto something I completely missed, it can be extremely healthy for everyone involved if taken in a synergistic or non-interfering manner which most of the time it was, I just think that our few differences on certain aspects of the storm evolution, pattern, etc. completely overshadowed the places where we agreed on. To quote Austin Powers, where Austin Powers & Dr Evil finally got along, "We're not so different,... you and I" rings very true here.

"P.S. Your snowfall maps inspired me to up my game on my own when making forecast maps!"

Thanks! I use photo editing software and draw up every map essentially by hand and format them the exact same way as my other pre-1938 maps on my site for continuity sake, I've tried my hand coding the maps up, but I still think they're inferior to hand analyses. I could certainly tell your forecast map looked a billion times better this time around and was more visually appealing than at least 90-95% of ones I came across out there (including Huffman's for ex). Nice work!

Also as an additional side note, while I was angry about this for the longest time during our prolonged period of superfluous hostility, and wanted to pull the trigger so many times myself to block you and was pretty upset when you came back a month or so ago, in hindsight, I actually appreciate the fact you didn't block me already by now, decided to stay here anyway in spite of me being a complete jerk to you 24-7, and also how the mods here let us run wild and inadvertently gave some time for the dust to settle (I certainly wouldn't have trusted us to do it lol), affording both 1300m and I a chance to work things out and try to make amends for the betterment of this entire forum in the long-run than in any other scenario where we both got banned, etc. I guess as they say, everything happens for a reason!

Thanks.

Eric
 
So I just wanted to come in an give some props to North Carolina drivers this morning. I drove from Asheville all the way down to US-25 from 9-11AM and the only vehicles out on the road were four wheel drive. We moved smoothly anywhere from 10-45 MPH all the way to the drop coming down into Travelers Rest. As soon as I get past Travelers rest where temperatures were warmer and the roads were were just wet in the travel lane, and wet slush everywhere else, here come the local idiots. One guy in a jeep was seriously driving 15 miles an hour on wet roads like it was the blizzard of 93. Another moron in a mid tier Audi was riding with his flashers on about 15 MPH, on wet roads. One tanker truck sped by in the slush covered lane throwing snow all over them. It was extremely annoying and those people need quit life. There were many more, to many to count, all on WET roads.
 
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I guess we can't call Dallas the Cowgirls anymore. They may not even lose again (until playoffs, which they'll choke)
Dak Prescott leads the NFL in fumbles, so a playoff choke is definitely possible. Gotta give him credit though, he was clutch today in spite of his turnovers.
 
I guess we can't call Dallas the Cowgirls anymore. They may not even lose again (until playoffs, which they'll choke)

crazy how they turned things around regardless of how far they get... a month ago or so when they lost to the Titans people on TV here were demanding firings...
 
Panthers suck.... I'll say it again time to reset. New coach, new QB, O-line, D-backs, time to rebuild

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Definitely need a new coach, new offensive line, new secondary, and better receivers. Not so sure about Cam. He has great stats this year, but also has made some bad throws with the game on the line and a chance to win. I don't know why they threw on 3rd and 4th down when they were on the 5 instead of running with CMC. He and Keuchley are the only ones playing consistently well.
 
Look, if they are not going to do it I WILL. Winter Storm Watch for the potential of 3” or greater from Charlotte to Statesville. Potentially more and more widespread. Watch the EURO. I get there is a warning in place but it is a disservice to taxpayers with the current forecast. Also advisory type with mixing and snow for upstate sc to mount airy west. Hell east to some light accums. This will overpeform. There I said it. It was on my chest for days.
 
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