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Misc 2017 Banter/venting thread

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I'm leaving this site for good. I'm leaving on a good note. I'm just tired of the bickering back and forth, who's right more than the other, which model is better and having those downhill moments every day here. It's so unprofessional for the weather community. It's just not a friendly environment here for me. It's not worth to anyone to be here, if there is bickering back and forth going on every single day. There's no enforcement here from the admins, and things here go out of control way too often. I've been banned from this site already once for no reason last year, things being deleted from my signature, seems like some take sides of one another. I gave it a 2nd chance of being here, and the environment has not changed. All the non sense is a disgrace, and I'm not going to deal with it no longer. Time for me to say goodbye to all here on this site. It was good chatting with you all. Good luck Southern Wx.

Best regards,
Don.
 
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WeatherWatch said:
I'm leaving this site for good. I'm leaving on a good note. I'm just tired of the bickering back and forth, who's right more than the other, which model is better and having those downhill moments every day here. It's so unprofessional for the weather community. It's just not a friendly environment here for me. It's not worth to anyone to be here, if there is bickering back and forth going on every single day. There's no enforcement here from the admins, and things here go out of control way too often. I've been banned from this site already once for no reason last year, things being deleted from my signature, seems like some take sides of one another. I gave it a 2nd chance of being here, and the environment has not changed. All the non sense is a disgrace, and I'm not going to deal with it no longer. Time for me to say goodbye to all here on this site. It was good chatting with you all. Good luck Southern Wx.

Best regards,
Don.
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Actually you are 100% incorrect. You did this last year and we banned you when you asked to be banned. You signed back up and here we are again with your swan song bc the whole site is against you blah blah blah. You were give a more than adequate opportunity but you are banned again so you aren't tempted to come back.
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I think it's pretty funny how stormlover gets his panties in a wad every time there's even a mention of a warm up and automatically assumes I'm talking about climate change lol. Yes we know it's warming, it's a combination of greenhouse gas emissions and natural variability, so is it really our fault? Absolutely not. GHG forcing is more applicable and evident over timescales of at least several decades or centuries and natural variability is capable of even cooling the climate monetarily over periods of several years to a few decades or so but in the long run we will keep warming. Idk what's so religious about this haha. Anyway I guess I'm gonna have to take up storm's idea to drink 30 of these prickly pear margs.
 
Hopefully, the pot stirrer has been eliminated. If someone thinks that @Webberweather53 has any agenda besides discussing his love for weather, they are absolutely wrong. I'm going to just keep reading and learning as much from him as I can. Webber, you talk above my head often, but I'm really glad you are here posting!
 
you actually can't thoroughly discuss these models and patterns without referencing the warming background state of the Earth... you're leaving out very significant parameters because a certain vocal minority segment comes unglued at any mention of it. Imagine it was like this on biology 'discussion boards' in the nineteenth century in threads about fossil record, taxonomy and the tree of life..
 
LetItSnow said:
And please don't forget how warm the ground is; that always messes up everything, not.. lol
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Haha it's definitely not what it's cracked up to be but I can attest to the fact it has an impact for sure. During the last decent snowfall here in central NC last March, nothing stuck to the ground where I was located in Fayetteville, everything pretty much stuck to metal or elevated surfaces and that was about it even though we had decent snowfall rates. Areas further south and west towards upstate SC, or even Wilmington had appreciably accumulation in grassy areas however as did Raleigh w/ less precip so I likely just got unlucky...
 
packfan98 said:
Hopefully, the pot stirrer has been eliminated. If someone thinks that @Webberweather53 has any agenda besides discussing his love for weather, they are absolutely wrong. I'm going to just keep reading and learning as much from him as I can. Webber, you talk above my head often, but I'm really glad you are here posting!
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I always appreciate Webb's comments, even when I don't understand them. Before this site when I lived in Central North Carolina I would always check his twitter page (along with Allan Huffman's) when there was a snow threat. He always would tell it straight regarding the threat. If he was excited about our chances then I knew we might get a good storm.
 
Guys, I really feel the 27th-3rd is the period we need to watch. Although I feel like the first system will cut, but the next storm is the one we need to watch out for. I also would not be surprised to see one sneak up on us on Christmas day, even though the models are not showing it. You also could argue the 27th-5th. I could see a storm occurring every day during that period. :eek::confused:
 
Parker said:
Guys, I really feel the 27th-3rd is the period we need to watch. Although I feel like the first system will cut, but the next storm is the one we need to watch out for. I also would not be surprised to see one sneak up on us on Christmas day, even though the models are not showing it. You also could argue the 27th-5th. I could see a storm occurring every day during that period. :eek::confused:
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Lol!!
 
SoutheastRidge said:
I personally think sun angle is more important than ground temps when it comes to snow sticking.
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So that's why we have our biggest snows in January and Feb, not when the sun angle is the best? That is not a huge factor, it's just not. It might be a bigger factor in melting it off the roads later in the season, that's true, but not sticking to the ground if it's frozen.
 
Stormlover said:
So that's why we have our biggest snows in January and Feb, not when the sun angle is the best? That is not a huge factor, it's just not.
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The sun angle is still pretty low in January and also December of course. I've been screwed countless times in late Feb and March when it comes to snow. Only in March can it snow moderately all day and hardly none of it stick. I really started to question the ground temps theory after James Spann said that ground temps would limit snow to under an inch in this past snowstorm.
 
I'm taking a break. I've had it with the models. They're hardly worth following any more. Even 7 days out they've been horrible. Whatever happened to the monster Arctic high? Was a fake apparently. Whatever happened to the near record -EPO? I don't see predictions like that any more. It was also a fake.
 
Snowfan said:
I think somebody already posted in the thread.
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Just saw it. Looks like an increase from 0z. That’s all we can ask for at this point. Pretty strong signal for the CAD areas at least.

Edit: Slight decrease on the mean, but very similar to 0z.
 
I’m loving the last 24 hours of this thread. There’s Some absolutely insane and ridiculous posts but very entertaining to say the least. And not to beat a dead horse but it’s still December people. Once the 2nd week of January rolls around is when you’ll start to see me move ever so slightly towards the edge of the cliff. Until then as long as there’s no week plus of above normal temps I’m all good.
 
I really do not like the ensemble member MSLP/Wintry maps for the SC areas from the 12z EPS.
 
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