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The Iranian team played in the World Cup tonight on American soil. Did our government let Iranian “fans” into our country to”cheer for their team”? This-looks like a perfect opportunity to get some millitant Muslims embedded into terror networks
 
The Iranian team played in the World Cup tonight on American soil. Did our government let Iranian “fans” into our country to”cheer for their team”? This-looks like a perfect opportunity to get some millitant Muslims embedded into terror networks

LA metro has the largest # of Iranian Americans with ~1/4-1/2 million for those who don’t know.
 
The Iranian team played in the World Cup tonight on American soil. Did our government let Iranian “fans” into our country to”cheer for their team”? This-looks like a perfect opportunity to get some millitant Muslims embedded into terror networks
In addition to GaWx's point, very few (maybe none?) of the Iran World Cup fans were allowed into the US. Most of those in attendance already live here.
 
If the whole $300b thing is true, its Biden leaving Afghanistan full of American weapons stupid level bad, if not worse. Especially, after saying they aren't getting any American money.

Even worse is the 13 US Service members that were killed that day !
 
If the whole $300b thing is true, its Biden leaving Afghanistan full of American weapons stupid level bad, if not worse. Especially, after saying they aren't getting any American money.
- waste military resources
- negatively impact world view
- depleat our oil reserves
- drive inflation though the roof
- hand Iran control of the strait by proving they can shut it down at will
- cause next to 0 internal changes within Iran
- kill Americans
- make the same deal and hand them more for being destroyed by us

None of this made sense to do to begin with when we just are back to square 1 with Iran agreeing the same thing to "not make a nuke" when they feel justified even more to do so now.
 
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- waste military resources
- negatively impact world view
- depleat our oil reserves
- drive inflation though the roof
- hand Iran control of the strait by proving they can shut it down at will
- cause next to 0 internal changes within Iran
- kill Americans
- make the same deal and hand them.mo eu for being destroyed by us

None of this made sense to do to begin with when we just are back to square 1 with Iran agreeing the same thing to "not make a nuke" when they feel justified even more to do so now.
Perfect post here. I agree with every single word of it.
 
- waste military resources
- negatively impact world view
- depleat our oil reserves
- drive inflation though the roof
- hand Iran control of the strait by proving they can shut it down at will
- cause next to 0 internal changes within Iran
- kill Americans
- make the same deal and hand them more for being destroyed by us

None of this made sense to do to begin with when we just are back to square 1 with Iran agreeing the same thing to "not make a nuke" when they feel justified even more to do so now.

I agree completely. This is a terrible deal, and Trump lost a lot of credibility with how he handled this. I am not anti Israel by any means it it almost seems like we were pulled into this conflict, were not prepared for the closure of the Strait, and Trump feels misled so he was looking for any off ramp no matter how terrible it is.
 
I agree completely. This is a terrible deal, and Trump lost a lot of credibility with how he handled this. I am not anti Israel by any means it it almost seems like we were pulled into this conflict, were not prepared for the closure of the Strait, and Trump feels misled so he was looking for any off ramp no matter how terrible it is.

Could be, but the reality is probably darker than we want to think. While I occasionally get lost in our illusions of “choice”, the US is run by a uniparty and global politics is more or less a formal waltz of give and take for the advantage of the powerful.
 
Netanyahoo isn't going to listen to Trump... he'll do whatever he wishes unless the US threatens to cut off aid
I have to hope he doesn't. This is terrible for Israel and all of the "non Twelver Shia Muslims" muslim states in the middle east. We are simply delaying the inevitable for the sake of midterm elections. We will have to one day utterly destroy the present Iranian government, or live under it. Their strategy is prepare for offensive capabilities while stalling our military involvement.....the longer we stall, the more support they receive from China, Russia, and sympathetic muslim countries. If we are truly the world's most powerful nation, why are we even interested in what Iran wants....I say there is nothing to negotiate but surrender from the IRGC !
 
These are both BULL! I'm not so sure about your presentation of the Trump deal, but the Obama deal proved to be useless. To make matters worse he , along with Bush flooded our own nation with Muslim extremist, and his sympathetic attitude to the Muslims made our country more inviting to those with anti-American beliefs. The Trump deal is even more stupid than Obama. You cannot negotiate with terrorist. All you can do is run from them or kill them.
 
Random musings. Putting aside the Obama/Dubya talk. Yea, this deal does NOT look good.

Israel has been quiet lately since the G7...

There’s talk of Vance being setup as the scapegoat if the MOU fails. (short term and long term)
 

I've never heard of someone or nation that had such an overwhelming advantage act like they were the ones getting their butts whipped? Trump is supposed to be a good deal maker? He's foolish to try with those people. He has literally snatched defeated out of the jaws of victory......He must be an Auburn fan like me:mad:
 
Israel needs to look in the mirror. Never bite the hand that feeds you.
Hesbola has already publicly celebrated that Iran is close to sending them large amounts of financial support. only a fool would worry about who feeds him when he has Hezbollah lobbing missiles at you at will. A well fed poodle is still gonna fight when his master tells him no, if his master puts him in a cage with a wolf!
 
Hesbola has already publicly celebrated that Iran is close to sending them large amounts of financial support. only a fool would worry about who feeds him when he has Hezbollah lobbing missiles at you at will. A well fed poodle is still gonna fight when his master tells him no, if his master puts him in a cage with a wolf!
We didn't put the poodle in the cage with the wolf. That was the Brits back in WW1.

We "adopted" the poodle after the Suez crisis in the 50's. That was after the UK/France/Israel launched a successful invasion of Egypt. But we forced the Brits to back off. How?? Threatened to sell off bonds to devalue the british pound, making it hard to afford importing food to the British isles. This despite them still being a power with a nuclear arsenal...

Israel imports 80% of their food from the US/Europe.

Strongly disagree with only a fool would worry about who feeds them. Prior geopolitical history argues otherwise. (Suez being just one example) I'm not sure how this situation is different.
 
We didn't put the poodle in the cage with the wolf. That was the Brits back in WW1.

We "adopted" the poodle after the Suez crisis in the 50's. That was after the UK/France/Israel launched a successful invasion of Egypt. But we forced the Brits to back off. How?? Threatened to sell off bonds to devalue the british pound, making it hard to afford importing food to the British isles. This despite them still being a power with a nuclear arsenal...

Israel imports 80% of their food from the US/Europe.

Strongly disagree with only a fool would worry about who feeds them. Prior geopolitical history argues otherwise. (Suez being just one example) I'm not sure how this situation is different.
What good is food when your house is blown to smithereens???? It is ridiculous to think you would sit on your hands if your country is being attacked! Israel is right, Trump is wrong......would you let someone attack your family if you had means to stop them?
 
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