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Send them to school its safe.........

Yes they are. No positives in my wife school yet but it will happen. No surprise here.
 
Signs of Cardiac Damage Even in Younger, Nonhospitalized COVID-19 Patients
A series of middle-aged patients followed more than 2 months after diagnosis showed that most had abnormal results on CMR.


“There are more signs that COVID-19 may cause damage to the heart that lasts beyond the acute phase, based on an imaging study conducted at a single center in Germany. Despite the fact that 67% of the patients who volunteered for the study never required hospitalization, 78% had abnormal cardiac magnetic resonance (CMR) findings 2 to 3 months after testing positive for the virus.

“These were not the patients that had problems or any cardiac symptoms at all,” lead author Valentina Puntmann, MD, PhD (University Hospital Frankfurt, Germany), told TCTMD, explaining that anyone with a positive COVID-19 test result had been invited to participate through the hospital’s testing clinic. “Quite a few of them did feel shortness of breath but they didn't think it came from the heart, just that they hadn't fully recovered—something was not right.”
 
Chronic Fatigue May Be Long-term Effect of COVID-19


A large number of people who contract the coronavirus don't fully recover in a few weeks, and many of them are experiencing chronic fatigue.
More than a third of those who have tested positive for COVID-19 and have symptoms don't feel like they're back to normal, even weeks later, according to a new CDC report.
"COVID-19 can result in prolonged illness, even among young adults without underlying chronic medical conditions," the CDC COVID-19 Response Team wrote.


Scientists are beginning to study whether the coronavirus may create post-viral issues such as myalgic encephalomyelitis, which is also known as chronic fatigue syndrome. Common symptoms include brain fog, fatigue, pain, immune issues, and malaise after exercise.
 
I signed up for a blood drive next week, so I’ll get an antibody test with that. I don’t expect to test positive for antibodies, but I suppose you never know.
 
“The expectation is this will evolve into the common cold.”

??
Hopefully, because if it's here to stay and lots of people who get it have long lasting mysterious symptoms, many people could be in for a rough ride long-term.
 
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Hopefully, because if it's here to stay Nd lots of people who get it have long lasting mysterious symptoms, many people could be in for a rough ride long-term.
We need to get to long term 1st. Hell it takes me 6 months to get back to feeling right after a stomach ulcer.
 
Can I just say that Australian type rules for a lockdown would drive me nuts?

If I have things to do that are not school or a structured work environment, I'm still kind of spontaneous with that (like today I wanted to get my school physical done and deposit a check and just decided to randomly get up and leave to go get that done at 11:30ish, didn't need to schedule an appointment to get one at this clinic, hopefully it doesn't backfire that I saw a PA).

I mean I did say that I was going to go late morning, but I decided at about 9:00ish in the morning that I was going to.

Heck, when the weather cools off, the times I exercise might not be exact times either.
 
You would think at one point the US was going to do what Australia did after my workplace gave me papers saying I could travel to work if the time came of shutting the roads down.
 
Signs of Cardiac Damage Even in Younger, Nonhospitalized COVID-19 Patients
A series of middle-aged patients followed more than 2 months after diagnosis showed that most had abnormal results on CMR.


“There are more signs that COVID-19 may cause damage to the heart that lasts beyond the acute phase, based on an imaging study conducted at a single center in Germany. Despite the fact that 67% of the patients who volunteered for the study never required hospitalization, 78% had abnormal cardiac magnetic resonance (CMR) findings 2 to 3 months after testing positive for the virus.

“These were not the patients that had problems or any cardiac symptoms at all,” lead author Valentina Puntmann, MD, PhD (University Hospital Frankfurt, Germany), told TCTMD, explaining that anyone with a positive COVID-19 test result had been invited to participate through the hospital’s testing clinic. “Quite a few of them did feel shortness of breath but they didn't think it came from the heart, just that they hadn't fully recovered—something was not right.”
I have noticed I’ve had way more heart palpitations after I had it back in May (was asymptomatic) also notice now if I drink any caffeine I get a extremely fast heartbeat, this is after covid, doctors said it was stress but idk
 
I have noticed I’ve had way more heart palpitations after I had it back in May (was asymptomatic) also notice now if I drink any caffeine I get a extremely fast heartbeat, this is after covid, doctors said it was stress but idk
Bad flus always gave me palpitations for weeks... but that's a long lag time. Probably time to get an EKG, see a cardiologist.. Especially at your age.
 
I have noticed I’ve had way more heart palpitations after I had it back in May (was asymptomatic) also notice now if I drink any caffeine I get a extremely fast heartbeat, this is after covid, doctors said it was stress but idk

I had a resting heart rate of 100 at work spiking up to 130 the 2 weeks after I recovered. I thought it was anxiety, It has sense settled, but I wonder now.
 

I seriously doubt my county goes back (even with the families that might have chosen to) and the county that's north of me is already very quickly on the path to ending up virtual.
 
NC numbers have definitely plateaued and or are beginning to decline. I've noticed that the numbers of tests in the past week are also trending down. Is this because fewer people are needing tests, or do we not know?
 
NC numbers have definitely plateaued and or are beginning to decline. I've noticed that the numbers of tests in the past week are also trending down. Is this because fewer people are needing tests, or do we not know?
It’s gotten bad enough recently they cancelled school last minute after everyone bought supplies and stuff. The Wilkes journal patriot keeps reporting new outbreaks (now at the jail) but health website does not reflect it. It’s been dead here since the major Tyson outbreak but the virus made a comeback. My answer is politics based on what I hear from some of the closed door republican meetings in Wilkes (can’t speak for other areas).
 
NC numbers have definitely plateaued and or are beginning to decline. I've noticed that the numbers of tests in the past week are also trending down. Is this because fewer people are needing tests, or do we not know?
I’m wondering that, too. And the positive rate has been declining, as well. It was just 5% on today’s report, which is the lowest I’ve seen in months.
 
NC numbers have definitely plateaued and or are beginning to decline. I've noticed that the numbers of tests in the past week are also trending down. Is this because fewer people are needing tests, or do we not know?
It's the standard progression. Cases will begin to rapidly drop, followed by deaths.
 
When we cough and breath think of an aresol can being sprayed that's how it spreads...
 
Let’s make it mandatory for those over 60 so it will include all politicians. Then let’s wait 2 years before lowering the age to 50...40. If anything goes wrong those with money can die first or spend their money fixing it for the rest of us.
 

The bulk of the MSM constantly and conveniently ignores the effect of the BLM based protests because the MSM is mainly liberally biased. That double standard is one of the worst I've ever seen. And then they have the nerve to criticize the big motorcycle gathering without also criticizing the protests!
 
I don't think governments should make vaccines mandatory, but workplaces can and I wouldn't be surprised if many will (I would guess they'd still have 2 exceptions, but I'd feel like I was cheating personally if I claimed I am not going to get one for religious reasons). Not just healthcare either. Would guess colleges might too.

I also wouldn't be surprised if many workplaces don't in the southeast because of the general attitude most of the southeast has had all along. So, everyone in the southeast can keep on with doing them.

Either way, if some theories or things thought by scientists I've seen turn out to be true, it probably won't matter by the time one is out. IF it turns out to be true that a mere 15% exposure to the virus can start a burnout that unwinds us to where any new cases can be managed by us, then we really can't be too far from that in the southeast honestly already (which is why I've said that the southeast should monitor how things go for a few more weeks before deciding what's going to happen with CFB). If we need more on the long of 30-50% exposure to the virus for herd immunity, then still, we don't need everyone to take the vaccine (then you can ask why should workplaces make vaccines mandatory, well, ask the ones that do if we do see the pathway I'm talking about).

Your TL/DR here is: Either way you want to play it, from sometime in the spring of 2021 on, we should be starting to get back to normal completely even if you don't want to be homer-ific on your timelines.

I will also add, from what I heard on NPR, looking to try to crush the curve to nothing with long lockdowns that are stricter than what we saw in the US might not be a winning strategy after all. Cases are rising in Europe. Think I heard Germany has now recorded 1000 cases for the first time in a while?

Actually looks like they might be consistently recording that amount over the last week or so.
 
Mayor of the town of Washington right down the road passed from Covid today.....

 
This

This. Right. Here



Guess you didn’t see my actual clinical data post about myocarditis and heart abnormalities found young, healthy, asymptomatic and unhospitalized patients. That sums a non-clinical view and emotional reaction, nothing based on science. We see athletes fall to the ground of cardiac issues during games and they end up dying. Do you want to see that this year? Want to leave it up to the families and a kid who isn’t even 21 yet to decide? This is why there are people in charge of organizations to make a more logical, and not emotional, choice.

You may not understand that an athletes heart beats at peak performance during games 190bpm+ on top of that they’re dehydrated usually all game long. Pair that with unknown and undiagnosed heart inflammation due to an asymptomatic virus, it’s a recipe for disaster. Why risk it for sports? No, football players didn’t accept risk of playing with myocarditis — that ambulance at the stadium is there in case of injury such as ACL, concussion, etc. not literal death.

Look, I love football. But what you’re asking is kids to risk their lives for your enjoyment. I hope it’s delayed or canceled unless they can do CMR scans on players before games.
 
I must have missed all those NBA, MLB, NHL, and European soccer professional athletes who have been dying from these undetected heart ailments post-COVID... they've all been back practicing and competing for a couple months now...

Maybe professional athletes are immune? :rolleyes:

Regardless, the health protocols I saw posted by the Big 12 indicated that athletes would be tested three times a week and those who test positive would not be eligible to return to action until (obviously) they have two consecutive negative tests, an EKG, troponin blood test, echocardiogram, and a cardiac MRI. Seems fairly comprehensive to me...
 
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You can contract myocarditis from other viruses. It's not new news, although from things I've read, if you do contract it, it seems like it can be scary af. I have occasionally had some odd things happen within my chest, and it really sucks to do so.

The much better deal for me would be to see the percentage of recovered young people that contract it. Or the percentage of heart problems in general post-covid.

Edit: which they may have preliminary things here that I saw and it went over my head, or just didn't see.
 
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I must have missed all those NBA, MLB, NHL, and European soccer professional athletes who have been dying from these undetected heart ailments post-COVID... they've all been back practicing and competing for a couple months now...

Maybe professional athletes are immune? :rolleyes:

Regardless, the health protocols I saw posted by the Big 12 indicated that athletes would be tested three times a week and those who test positive would not be eligible to return to action until (obviously) they have two consecutive negative tests, an EKG, troponin blood test, echocardiogram, and a cardiac MRI. Seems fairly comprehensive to me...

Basically what you're saying is we should wait until the athletes start falling dead from heart attacks to actually take any action to protect them from well established and reported post covid-19 ailments. It's the equivalent of saying we shouldn't be prepared for a hurricane until one actually hits us because there hasn't been any yet this season.

Do you actually know what the word precaution means? A measure taken in advance to prevent something dangerous, unpleasant, or inconvenient from happening.

Smh
 
Guess you didn’t see my actual clinical data post about myocarditis and heart abnormalities found young, healthy, asymptomatic and unhospitalized patients. That sums a non-clinical view and emotional reaction, nothing based on science. We see athletes fall to the ground of cardiac issues during games and they end up dying. Do you want to see that this year? Want to leave it up to the families and a kid who isn’t even 21 yet to decide? This is why there are people in charge of organizations to make a more logical, and not emotional, choice.

You may not understand that an athletes heart beats at peak performance during games 190bpm+ on top of that they’re dehydrated usually all game long. Pair that with unknown and undiagnosed heart inflammation due to an asymptomatic virus, it’s a recipe for disaster. Why risk it for sports? No, football players didn’t accept risk of playing with myocarditis — that ambulance at the stadium is there in case of injury such as ACL, concussion, etc. not literal death.

Look, I love football. But what you’re asking is kids to risk their lives for your enjoyment. I hope it’s delayed or canceled unless they can do CMR scans on players before games.

That post looks like just more bait from Jimmy, I wonder if he actually tries to put any effort or a single ounce of thought into his posts in this thread anymore. Of course, the usual suspects on here will eat it up with little, if any thought or research on their end.
 
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