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Poimen said:
To my knowledge there's no such thing as a "cure" for a virus. Maybe I'm wrong. But as we were discussing earlier, once the virus infects a person, it can open the door for secondary infections. It seems beyond comprehension, to me at least, that anyone would ever think there could be a one-size fit-all "cure."

"Oh, you have COIVID. Well then, just take these meds and you'll be just fine."
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Great point but this is just arguing seemantics. She could have said prevent and treat, yes.
 
Snowflowxxl said:
I haven’t followed this thread in the past two weeks. Is there anything positive to report? Or do things still look like poop
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New cases have flatlined or possibly even started to decrease depending on how hard you squint, and the positive case rate has declined over the last week or so. Will that last? We’ll see.

I wouldn’t say things are looking great, but things aren’t exponentially spiraling out of control, either. The hot spot states seem to show signs of leveling, so hopefully they will nose over soon. There will be many more dead to count on the way down, though...

I’m kind of an optimistic person by nature, though (which translates to weenieism in the winter).
 
Rain Cold said:
So for the record, it sounds like we have unanimous agreement, with the exception of far right sources (and of course, those people affiliated with the Trump administration) that hydroxychloroquine is not only ineffective as a treatment for Covid-19, but it could also be harmful and perhaps fatal as well.

Do I have that right?
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There is anecdotal evidence that it has helped some cases. I had a friend who got very sick with Covid and was given it with zinc and z-pak. It didn't help him at all. It might help some but let real science determine that... not a bunch of "doctors" with questionable credentials who have agendas and are driven by political conspiracies
 
I found what the Doctor Summit video was flagged for this morning on Facebook. It was cited “Do not fall for this video because Hydroxychloroquine is not a CURE for Covid-19.”

The only grounds for that video being taken down was because the lady called it a “cure” and not a “treatment”.

Semantics.

This is not a good look for these social media platforms. People feel like they’re trying to censor the truth. Whether that’s true or not doesn’t really matter. The beast is awakened. People are talking which is what’s most important.
 
Whereas until yesterday I hadn’t known anyone with Covid, I have just learned about the death of the first cousin of someone who works for the family (she was only in her 40s to low 50s and didn’t have any major preexisting condition)(her bro and sis both have it, too) and a 97 yo aunt of my stepmom, who was found barely conscious with an O2 level of only 62% in her room (senior home). The family refuse to allow her on a ventilator due to her age. She’s somehow hanging on with room air based O2 back up to 92%. Both live (lived) in E GA. It is getting scarier.
 
I just gave myself a haircut for the 1st time in my life and it was the 1st one I’ve had in 5 months. This was much more than a little trim as I took off up to 3”. I was just winging it but I’ve actually had worse looking haircuts!
 
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SWB said:
Covid is deadly just like any other virus or disease. I really think whole deal is to keep wanna be president and President Trump off stage for any type of debate one on one.
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Yes the entire world is enduring this pandemic and foreigners all agreed to be dead so trump and biden can skip debates.

Jesus wept.
 
SWB said:
Covid is deadly just like any other virus or disease. I really think whole deal is to keep wanna be president and President Trump off stage for any type of debate one on one.
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Ok the entire world dying and creating a pandemic to keep Trump from debating. That’s a neat story. However, it’s after 9pm your bedtime has come and gone sir.


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Jimmy Hypocracy said:
I found what the Doctor Summit video was flagged for this morning on Facebook. It was cited “Do not fall for this video because Hydroxychloroquine is not a CURE for Covid-19.”

The only grounds for that video being taken down was because the lady called it a “cure” and not a “treatment”.

Semantics.

This is not a good look for these social media platforms. People feel like they’re trying to censor the truth. Whether that’s true or not doesn’t really matter. The beast is awakened. People are talking which is what’s most important.
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It’s not semantics. In medicine, treatment and cure are polar opposites. It has large implications to mix the two up, or spread false hope and a false narrative around HCQ. No doctor in their right mind would confuse the two, and to manufacture a video to do so can literally risk lives and cause another drug shortage and high demand for HCQ once again.

How about let the science speak for itself? I can tell you who that video won’t convince is the doctors who know HCQ is clinging on to it’s little benefit it has in improving outcomes. This is laughable and the entire US has a tin foil hat on it appears. The truth is scary, no one wants to believe what we’re seeing and they want a way out...I get it.

Put it this way,

What if a video went viral and the presidents son tweeted it? What if in said video there was a Medical Doctor saying Hydroxychloroquine cured cancer and that all the doctors of the world should listen. What if your mom or father had cancer? What if you immediately wanted to get them HCQ and thought their doctors were quacks because they weren’t being given the cure for cancer?

What if someone online said well, the doctor meant treatment but they said cure, it’s no big deal.

How would you feel?
 
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Some of you might see a Swiss Policy Research website floating around. Looks semi-official...many links and images and sourced information, presented in a very intelligent way (although no author listed it claims it’s to remain transparent aka not transparent at all)

This is the wiki and how we still don’t know what the website is or who the authors are, or even if they’re really Swiss.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Swiss Policy Research - Wikipedia

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It’s making rounds on Facebook but wanted to get ahead of the posts here. In case anyone wanted to discus why they would trust it given said information on the wiki above...
 
Jon said:
It’s not semantics. In medicine, treatment and cure are polar opposites. It has large implications to mix the two up, or spread false hope and a false narrative around HCQ. No doctor in their right mind would confuse the two, and to manufacture a video to do so can literally risk lives and cause another drug shortage and high demand for HCQ once again.

How about let the science speak for itself? I can tell you who that video won’t convince is the doctors who know HCQ is clinging on to it’s little benefit it has in improving outcomes. This is laughable and the entire US has a tin foil hat on it appears. The truth is scary, no one wants to believe what we’re seeing and they want a way out...I get it.

Put it this way,

What if a video went viral and the presidents son tweeted it? What if in said video there was a Medical Doctor saying Hydroxychloroquine cured cancer and that all the doctors of the world should listen. What if your mom or father had cancer? What if you immediately wanted to get them HCQ and thought their doctors were quacks because they weren’t being given the cure for cancer?

What if someone online said well, the doctor meant treatment but they said cure, it’s no big deal.

How would you feel?
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A cancer cure comes through treatment. If I treat my cancer with radiation to the point where my body is cancer free, am I cured?
 
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