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Bloomberg: Washington is ready to financially support Ukraine with 1.5 billion dollars per month throughout the war with Russia.
 
severestorm said:
This proves my above point. Everyone thinks this is some call of duty game. It's not. Nuclear Bombs will destroy the world and cause untold suffering. Ukraine already said they want a regime change in Russia and won't negotiate with Putin, which means this will keep escalating until the inevitable.
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Someone comes into your home rapes, kills, and commits war crimes why should they be negotiated with?
 
Do Ya'll just think Ukraine is gonna run Russia right back to its border, Putin and Russia say Oh shucks, tough loss, end of game? My whole beef with the disastrous weak bended knee Afghanistan debacle and head in the sand leading up to this preventable War is just how nonchalant folks in charge/making policy still are in regards to what we are dealing with here. Oh we are sending Billions with 0 accountability, wearing Ukraine pins on our clothes as a show of support. Sanctioning Russia and causing Europe to fall into financial ruin. We'll show em. Telling you now, if you think Russia brass/Putin are just gonna accept defeat and go home with their heads tucked between tales, you/me/we all are gonna be in for a rude awakening here soon. I hope I'm wrong, but you back a rat into a corner, he's not just gonna roll over belly up. That's what Putin is , A Rat. But a Rat who can hit a few buttons and do the unthinkable on as big a scale as he wishes. Ya'll think the JV team in charge up in DC have a plan of action for a response when this unfolds? We are to busy chasing end of the world climate fairy tales that are nothing more than marketing strategies to line the pockets of elites while at the same time doing more harm to our environment and the common everyday citizens. This aint a hollywood movie here, but that's what its been made out to be, several cashing in big time with all this US taxpayer money being sent over in the Billions with 0 accountability, laundered by who knows. We are teetering here my friend.
 
NCSNOW said:
Do Ya'll just think Ukraine is gonna run Russia right back to its border, Putin and Russia say Oh shucks, tough loss, end of game? My whole beef with the disastrous weak bended knee Afghanistan debacle and head in the sand leading up to this preventable War is just how nonchalant folks in charge/making policy still are in regards to what we are dealing with here. Oh we are sending Billions with 0 accountability, wearing Ukraine pins on our clothes as a show of support. Sanctioning Russia and causing Europe to fall into financial ruin. We'll show em. Telling you now, if you think Russia brass/Putin are just gonna accept defeat and go home with their heads tucked between tales, you/me/we all are gonna be in for a rude awakening here soon. I hope I'm wrong, but you back a rat into a corner, he's not just gonna roll over belly up. That's what Putin is , A Rat. But a Rat who can hit a few buttons and do the unthinkable on as big a scale as he wishes. Ya'll think the JV team in charge up in DC have a plan of action for a response when this unfolds? We are to busy chasing end of the world climate fairy tales that are nothing more than marketing strategies to line the pockets of elites while at the same time doing more harm to our environment and the common everyday citizens. This aint a hollywood movie here, but that's what its been made out to be, several cashing in big time with all this US taxpayer money being sent over in the Billions with 0 accountability, laundered by who knows. We are teetering here my friend.
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So you mean to tell me that because Russia can threaten the world with nukes they should get to invade murder, rape, kill women and children and annex any territory they want because you're too worried where the money goes?

What Russia did are WAR CRIMES and they deserve nothing here but pain.
 
Shaggy said:
So you mean to tell me that because Russia can threaten the world with nukes they should get to invade murder, rape, kill women and children and annex any territory they want because you're too worried where the money goes?

What Russia did are WAR CRIMES and they deserve nothing here but pain.
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Sometimes you have to weigh the larger cost of the "pain" you'd like to administer. I don't think anybody wants to see Putin have free rein to conquer the world, simply because he has nuclear weapons. But at some point, it's possible that the risk of burning it all to the ground outweighs dishing out American might and justice.

We are funding a proxy war with no oversight and no end in sight, with the only goal of removing Putin. We probably assisted with the destruction of the pipeline, if we didn't do it ourselves. The talking head representatives of our leadership are ratcheting up the war rhetoric every day. They want their regime change war, just like always, and it won't stay a proxy war forever.

There are plenty of other atrocities around the world that are equal to or greater than Russia attempting to reacquire the Donbas region, which we (meaning we the government and we the people) curiously have little interest in. But once again, we find ourselves on the verge of a long-duration overseas conflict, that may actually not stay overseas this time.

This is a very high profile, high stakes, undertaking where far more real people run the real risk of losing far more than will be gained by dishing out justice to Putin. Is it worth it?
 
Shaggy said:
Someone comes into your home rapes, kills, and commits war crimes why should they be negotiated with?
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Do you honestly want to see your relatives skin fall off their body and they die a agonizing death if they somehow escaped being vaporized by a Nuke? Do you honestly want a radioactive world? This isn't a damn video game. Billions of people are on the brink of a Nuclear apocalypse. Go ahead and say Putin's bluffing. It won't change reality.

Guess no deal at all:
BREAKING: Zelensky signs decree from the National Security and Defense Council officially stating the "impossibility of holding a negotiation process with Russia under Putin"
 
severestorm said:
Do you honestly want to see your relatives skin fall off their body and they die a agonizing death if they somehow escaped being vaporized by a Nuke? Do you honestly want a radioactive world? This isn't a damn video game. Billions of people are on the brink of a Nuclear apocalypse. Go ahead and say Putin's bluffing. It won't change reality.

Guess no deal at all:
BREAKING: Zelensky signs decree from the National Security and Defense Council officially stating the "impossibility of holding a negotiation process with Russia under Putin"
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Sensationalize much?
 
severestorm said:
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You believe they really don’t know where it is? They know where everything is at all times everywhere. If Russia had anything remotely like the U.S., Zelensky would have been toast way before this conflict started. Russia is bluffing to stop advancements against itself because they are weak and they have been exposed.


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Loganville Winter said:
You believe they really don’t know where it is? They know where everything is at all times everywhere. If Russia had anything remotely like the U.S., Zelensky would have been toast way before this conflict started. Russia is bluffing to stop advancements against itself because they are weak and they have been exposed.


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Are you really that naive? Holy cow.
 
Shaggy said:
So you mean to tell me that because Russia can threaten the world with nukes they should get to invade murder, rape, kill women and children and annex any territory they want because you're too worried where the money goes?

What Russia did are WAR CRIMES and they deserve nothing here but pain.
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If only you had this passion toward the coyites down at our southern border and those in power all out promoting and enabling the culture.

If anti Putin, communism as they come. Im also for National sovereignty, not just in America, Ukraine as well. But I know all this money with 0 accountability/ oversights not ending up where its being advertised as going. But money is money. The consequences this crisis is escalating into is gonna do unrepairable damage.
 
This is the impact of 1 nuclear weapon in Kiev, taking a average of all RU's nuclear yield's. The orange is the thermal radiation parameter, 3rd degree burns and radiation sickness likely in this vicinity. RU has 6,300 total nuclear warheads and 1,588 ready to be fired at any moment.

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Shaggy said:
So you mean to tell me that because Russia can threaten the world with nukes they should get to invade murder, rape, kill women and children and annex any territory they want because you're too worried where the money goes?

What Russia did are WAR CRIMES and they deserve nothing here but pain.
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I dont disagree with this because its unjust, but we must be aware of what consequences may arise either way. It needs to stop, but there could be a price to pay, are we ready?
 
Avalanche said:
I dont disagree with this because its unjust, but we must be aware of what consequences may arise either way. It needs to stop, but there could be a price to pay, are we ready?
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I'm sure all the higher level officials are not as worried. They probably have deep underground shelters and supplies. Everyone above ground is just collateral I guess. Really heartbreaking. I would never wish what the Chernobyl Firemen went through on anyone. It's a hellish death.

This is going to be many people's ending if Nuclear War is carried out

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Screw it, Putin might nuke someone so just let him have Ukraine, and Poland and hell lets give him whatever he wants,, Finland and Norway sorry but yall Russia now....

Seriously though ---- Putin, dont give him ----, and keep sending all that good ole mostly outdated truth be told US hardware to Ukraine to shove right up Putin's ass.

Ukraine with the help of the world is showing Putin that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
 
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