Shaggy
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Poor guy and families
The world should do nothing less than cut every tie to russia over their war crimes.
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The world should do nothing less than cut every tie to russia over their war crimes.
lexxnchloe
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The videos SEEM conclusive but we have seen many faked videos used for Ukrainian propaganda. There 2 explanations. A-It was indeed a Russian atrocity
B-Ukrainians retook the city and posed some dead bodies they found to make it look like an atrocity. Considering all the fake stuff we have seen so far thats at least a possibility.
B-Ukrainians retook the city and posed some dead bodies they found to make it look like an atrocity. Considering all the fake stuff we have seen so far thats at least a possibility.
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severestorm
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yup you were rightLol hopes. Normal weekend peace talk pump
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Downeastnc
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Yeah all those conveniently shot in the head execution style bodies they found, wonder how that happened, the Russians killed them all that is the atrocity, even it they were posed its still the damn Russians that killed them....Bucha fell into Russian hands in the first few days of fighting and has been controlled by the Russians till Mar 31st. Many bodies are bound and shot in the head....tied up women and children raped and beaten then finally shot in the head in houses and basements etc...
Russia is still doing this in areas they occupy, and unfortunately this will just be the first, in village after village in occupied Ukraine the story is going to be the same....
Anything is possible, I suppose, but the Russian military has never given a crap about collateral damage in the past, so none of this is particularly surprising. This is consistent with their past actions in Chechnya and elsewhere. They leave a trail of destruction in their wake.
Cindy131
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Russians in WW2 did a lot of drinking and raping of women/girls (8-80) They would spread eagle the girls on the ground and the Russian soldiers would line up to take their turn. The officer would stand off to side to make sure the rapes were done in an orderly fashion. Some of the soldiers would even use bottles (alcoholic). Some the girls were even begging to be killed but they were told no. The Russians raped all the way into Germany and then raped there for a long time. Estimates stated the number could be up to 2 million. Worse mass rapes in the world history was by Russians. They were taught rape is part of the rewards of war. In the pow camps the Russian soldiers were raping American soldiers.
buckinbronco
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Satellite images show bodies lay in Bucha for weeks, despite Russian claims.
The images rebut Russia’s claim that the killing of civilians in Bucha, near Kyiv, took place after its soldiers had left town.
Shaggy
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Nevermind Russia bombing shelters with children in them. It's such a stretch they would execute people as they leave.
Russia should never be given the time of day by any 1st world nation. F them all the hell
Russia should never be given the time of day by any 1st world nation. F them all the hell
I’m completely with you on condemning Russia, but if we go by this standard, wouldn’t it pretty much cut off business dealings with half of the counties in world?
Sandbar
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Myself and any other vet here who served in Iraq or Afghanistan will tell you flat out that you are going to see some really bad things come out of this. The Russian military doesn't treat civilians the way we do
Downeastnc
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Downeastnc
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What? I imagine that the tank was storing it for farming purposes....unless you thought tank meant like a T-72 versus one of these which is what was hit and exploded....
ForsythSnow
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Says tank storing in the original post so yes it was a storage tank
Downeastnc
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Brutal read on reality for occupied Ukraine.....
www.newstatesman.com
I escaped Russian atrocities in Bucha. My neighbours weren’t so lucky
Mass graves. Murdered civilians. A Ukrainian journalist recounts her final days in the town where Putin’s forces have been accused of war crimes.
www.newstatesman.com
Shaggy
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Shouldn't even be a question.
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Boy sure would be a shame for a coup to happen, for him to flown to the Hague and then to be subsequently executed for war crimes.
A shame, indeed.
Depends on who’s doing the couping. Could always get someone even more extreme in there…
Downeastnc
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Interesting read....world really just needs Putin to die....
the.ink
Is this how Russia ends?
An interview with the writer Masha Gessen about why Putin might dare a nuclear strike on Poland, what democratic leaders don’t grasp that authoritarians do, and what Russia might look like after Putin
the.ink
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GeorgiaGirl
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Worth saying so one more time in relation to what happened in there…play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
So dumb that there were Russian soldiers in the Red Forest digging up trenches. Even if they weren’t alive yet during the Chernobyl accident, that’s something they should’ve known about.
Downeastnc
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lexxnchloe
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I still have my doubts about any propaganda coming from Ukraine
Also, i dont think there was any real justification for what Obama did to Libya. Should he be tried as a war criminal as well as Bush?
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lexxnchloe
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Indeed, should NATO itself be classified as a war crime offender and be prosecuted? You can certainly make the argument NATO, Clinton and Obama should all be imprisoned if not facing the death penaty.
"The Obama administration did not plan to ruin Libya for a generation. But its decision to take on another people’s fight has resulted in catastrophe. Hillary Clinton’s malignant gift keeps on giving. Such is the cost of America’s promiscuous war‐making."
"NATO, led by the U.S., bombed Libyan government forces and installations and backed the insurgents’ offensive. It was not a humanitarian intervention, but a lengthy, costly, low‐tech, regime‐change war, mostly at Libyan expense. Obama claimed: “We had a unique ability to stop the violence.” Instead his administration ensured that the initial civil war would drag on for months—and the larger struggle ultimately for years."
What we did killed many more people than the Libyan dictator did. And it prolonged a civil war with death and misery for Libya.
"The Obama administration did not plan to ruin Libya for a generation. But its decision to take on another people’s fight has resulted in catastrophe. Hillary Clinton’s malignant gift keeps on giving. Such is the cost of America’s promiscuous war‐making."
"NATO, led by the U.S., bombed Libyan government forces and installations and backed the insurgents’ offensive. It was not a humanitarian intervention, but a lengthy, costly, low‐tech, regime‐change war, mostly at Libyan expense. Obama claimed: “We had a unique ability to stop the violence.” Instead his administration ensured that the initial civil war would drag on for months—and the larger struggle ultimately for years."
What we did killed many more people than the Libyan dictator did. And it prolonged a civil war with death and misery for Libya.
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Sandbar
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Oh the tangled web they weave......
lexxnchloe
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Indeed yes. Putin, right or wrong, sees NATO and Ukraine as a threat so he waged war on Ukraine. Obama and NATO saw Libya as a threat and they waged war on Libya. From Putin's perspective he is justified, Obama and NATO think they were justified. The dead dont give a damn. There are many war crimes to go around. Only my opinion, but i feel Obama, Bush, and NATO could easily be sitting in the dock next to Putin.
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