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Zander98al said:
Idk I just see it as a inevitable outcome of Ukraine ultimately losing, if Russia wants to win they can, but at some point you would have to get sick of the senseless killing. Nobody wants war and nobody wins in war, but it's hard for anybody to standby and watch helpless people be killed.
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We gotta let those people get killed for that 1% chance a nuke maybe, just possibly might be launched.
 
Zander98al said:
Idk I just see it as a inevitable outcome of Ukraine ultimately losing, if Russia wants to win they can, but at some point you would have to get sick of the senseless killing. Nobody wants war and nobody wins in war, but it's hard for anybody to standby and watch helpless people be killed.
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Russia can never win in Ukraine, I could see some cities end up surrendering to prevent further bloodshed, even Kyiv, but the Russians could never take Lviv and other major areas in western Ukraine without a massive increase in forces and even then its questionable. Russia can also take and hold Donbass since they people there are less likely to go all Red Dawn on them.
 
severestorm said:
This sounds like a great idea in the United States!
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That would be domestic abuse I'm afraid Thats just not tolerable for stealing and burning buildings... ? I think America would like to continue it's wrist slaps for the millions of dollars being lost in destruction and looting lol
 
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A lot of videos of soldiers surrendering out today. These guys looked like they saw a ghost. Maybe, the video being shown to them, might take the fight out of this group.

 
I’d be transporting those POWs to the western part of the Country and hold them as a negotiating tool.

In accordance with the Geneva Conventions.
 
VegasEagle said:
A lot of videos of soldiers surrendering out today. These guys looked like they saw a ghost. Maybe, the video being shown to them, might take the fight out of this group.

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This is an interesting predicament Russia finds itself in. Tons of artillery, tons of equipment, but the average serviceman has no will to fight. Maybe that is the byproduct of obligated service without an objective. They were uniform wearers, not war fighters.
 
Poimen said:
If only.
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I remain shocked at so many people falling in line with the totally one-sided coverage. If only we attacked Russia. Yea, nothing possibly could go wrong. Our invasion of Iraq was every bit as wrong as Putin's is now. Lets say Russia was Iraq's ally then. How would you feel if Russians decided to wipe out a US military column? Very few things in life or black/white, 100%/0%. I think Putin's demand to keep Ukraine out of NATO was reasonable. His response was unreasonable but when the media is 100% in lockstep cheerleading for war i personally think they are pigs. Alot of people would be alive today had we just told Putin Ukraine will be considered a neutral non-aligned country similar to Sweden or Switzerland in WW2.

The consensus back in 2003 for invading Iraq led us to disaster. Hillary Clinton was one of the warmongers, like she is now.

interesting speech from Hillary. She made it based on a war drumbeat that was deafening and totally one-sided and wrong. Listen to what she says. Everything is either an outright lie or just plain wrong. Yes, im just picking her out because she is a leading warmonger now. Bush was a monster as well. How many Americans died because of her vote? How many Americans in wheelchairs, with artificial limbs, disfigured faces? And we found out later the media and political drumbeat for war was 100% wrong. Oh, and lets not even talk about all the dead Iraqi's for nothing. So, please excuse me for not joining in the chorus for war and death. I pass. So follow Hillary and the warmongering republican neocons. I will not.


 
lexxnchloe said:
I remain shocked at so many people falling in line with the totally one-sided coverage. If only we attacked Russia. Yea, nothing possibly could go wrong. Our invasion of Iraq was every bit as wrong as Putin's is now. Lets say Russia was Iraq's ally then. How would you feel if Russians decided to wipe out a US military column? Very few things in life or black/white, 100%/0%. I think Putin's demand to keep Ukraine out of NATO was reasonable. His response was unreasonable but when the media is 100% in lockstep cheerleading for war i personally think they are pigs. Alot of people would be alive today had we just told Putin Ukraine will be considered a neutral non-aligned country similar to Sweden or Switzerland in WW2.

The consensus back in 2003 for invading Iraq led us to disaster. Hillary Clinton was one of the warmongers, like she is now.

interesting speech from Hillary. She made it based on a war drumbeat that was deafening and totally one-sided and wrong. Listen to what she says. Everything is either an outright lie or just plain wrong. Yes, im just picking her out because she is a leading warmonger now. Bush was a monster as well. How many Americans died because of her vote? How many Americans in wheelchairs, with artificial limbs, disfigured faces? And we found out later the media and political drumbeat for war was 100% wrong. Oh, and lets not even talk about all the dead Iraqi's for nothing. So, please excuse me for not joining in the chorus for war and death. I pass. So follow Hillary and the warmongering republican neocons. I will not.


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How is Putin demanding another country to not join NATO a reasonable request?
 
superjames1992 said:
Isn’t parading POWs in front of cameras a violation of the Geneva Convention? I’ve seen a lot of that in this war.
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It doesn't say that specifically, partially because the article pertaining to this was last revised in 1949, when nobody dreamed of pocket cameras with social media access, uploaded to the world in mere seconds.

What is says is that POW's must be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity, however that applies in the 21st century.
 
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