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buckinbronco said:
Last I saw was 198 Ukrainian deaths, which I 100% believe is wayyyy undercounted. It’s not in Ukraine’s best interest to give real counts, don’t want to damage morale when they are already outmatched on paper.
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Honestly though their number is probably considerably lower, they are better trained and are getting a lot of kills on APC's ( like the BTR 70/80's, and MT-LB ) which hold 7-11 soldiers plus 2/3 crew so a clean kill on one of those could kill 9-13 people and they have killed hundreds of them. Versus the Ukrainians who are using a lot of guerilla type tactics etc.

I would not be surprised if the military personal losses are under 1500-1000 or even less. Right now its bush league versus professionals, also there is the 3:1 rule for defenders versus attackers and Russia is on the losing in of a lot of these attacks because they dont have the numbers and Ukrainian forces are not giving them the fights they want.
 
BlueRidgeFolklore said:
Just my opinion here, but nobody and I mean nobody was threatening to invade the Russian mainland. Nobody. The idea that Putin thinks he is protecting Russia because of it's history of being raided, doesn't explain Crimea, it doesn't explain Georgia, it doesn't explain Ukraine.

Putin is a calculated, cold hearted dictator, who spent two decades working for the KGB. Putin came of age in the Soviet Union's golden years, took over during Russia's bleakest years, and in 1999 when he was first appointed as President, said: "Russia has been a great power for centuries, and remains so. It has always had and still has legitimate zones of interest ............ We should not drop our guard in this respect, neither should we allow our opinion to be ignored."

In his first 4yrs of power, he squashed the Chechen uprising, state media took over where free media existed, and he waged a war on oligarchs which culminated in the arrest of Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky. He took over the media, squashed resistance and arrested anyone with the power to question his authority, all signs of building an authoritarian regime. Vladimir Putin wants and always wanted the USSR back and that alone drives his ambition. He called the fall of the USSR "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe" of the 20th century, of which he blames Gorbachev for being a weak leader. To Putin, that Soviet Union was when "Mother Russia" was at her peak. Sputnik, the hydrogen bomb, Yuri Gagarin, Russia was powerful, Russia was feared and that alone has been his motivating factor since day 1.

That is not say that this is an attempt to get the gang back together, but Putin has long had a history of keeping former USSR nations in line, under his authoritarian thumb.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I personally believe it's still wise to understand why your adversary thinks they're right. We don't have to agree with their ideas.
 
Downeastnc said:
Honestly though their number is probably considerably lower, they are better trained and are getting a lot of kills on APC's ( like the BTR 70/80's, and MT-LB ) which hold 7-11 soldiers plus 2/3 crew so a clean kill on one of those could kill 9-13 people and they have killed hundreds of them. Versus the Ukrainians who are using a lot of guerilla type tactics etc.

I would not be surprised if the military personal losses are under 1500-1000 or even less. Right now its bush league versus professionals, also there is the 3:1 rule for defenders versus attackers and Russia is on the losing in of a lot of these attacks because they dont have the numbers and Ukrainian forces are not giving them the fights they want.
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Just keep in mind that almost all the information we are getting in the West are from Ukrainian sources. Who knows how many similar scenes of Ukrainian forces that are out there that we aren’t seeing. It’s very hard to get a sense of what’s really going on, barring sort of knowing where the frontlines are.
 
Downeastnc said:
Meh Zerohedge is a pro Russia site.....take anything they say with large grain of salt.....
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Yeah, they’ve been co-opted by the Russians for years. That being said, what they discuss is a possibility and is one potential harm of kicking the Russians out of SWIFT. I still think it was the right move, though.
 
Downeastnc said:
Honestly though their number is probably considerably lower, they are better trained and are getting a lot of kills on APC's ( like the BTR 70/80's, and MT-LB ) which hold 7-11 soldiers plus 2/3 crew so a clean kill on one of those could kill 9-13 people and they have killed hundreds of them. Versus the Ukrainians who are using a lot of guerilla type tactics etc.

I would not be surprised if the military personal losses are under 1500-1000 or even less. Right now its bush league versus professionals, also there is the 3:1 rule for defenders versus attackers and Russia is on the losing in of a lot of these attacks because they dont have the numbers and Ukrainian forces are not giving them the fights they want.
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I don’t disagree that the Russia has suffered more casualties than Ukraine. But I simply don’t believe 198 is accurate, it is the propaganda number. What the true number is, I don’t know. Your 1000-1500 estimate seems reasonable.
 
severestorm said:
What evidence do you have to back your claim up? Saudi, India, and China abstained from condemning Russia at the same time China launched a SWIFT alternative

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China’s largest trade partners, BY A LARGE MARGIN, are the United States and the European Union. Killing SWIFT and devaluing its currency standard, would be biting the hand that feeds.
 
BlueRidgeFolklore said:
China’s largest trade partners, BY A LARGE MARGIN, are the United States and the European Union. Killing SWIFT and devaluing its currency standard, would be biting the hand that feeds.
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I hope so. Xi has big plans it seems. When the dollar becomes debased, the currency collapses and becomes paper overnight.

www.cnbc.com

Op-ed: Xi and Putin tout a 'redistribution of power in the world,' and they aren't shy about their ambitions

The two leaders declared that "a trend has emerged towards redistribution of power in the world" – namely toward them and away from the U.S. and its allies.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
BlueRidgeFolklore said:
China’s largest trade partners, BY A LARGE MARGIN, are the United States and the European Union. Killing SWIFT and devaluing its currency standard, would be biting the hand that feeds.
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Right who would you rather have as trading partners the EU and USA or Russia lol.....
 
severestorm said:
I hope so. Xi has big plans it seems. When the dollar becomes debased, the currency collapses and becomes paper overnight.

www.cnbc.com

Op-ed: Xi and Putin tout a 'redistribution of power in the world,' and they aren't shy about their ambitions

The two leaders declared that "a trend has emerged towards redistribution of power in the world" – namely toward them and away from the U.S. and its allies.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
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The China we know today is a byproduct of Western consumerism. Pre-WW2 they were weak and of little to no industry. They can ill afford to screw up that alliance with the West. Sure, they can open a financial avenue for Russia, but it isn’t killing SWIFT because China is largely dependent on who uses SWIFT.
 
BlueRidgeFolklore said:
The China we know today is a byproduct of Western consumerism. Pre-WW2 they were weak and of little to no industry. They can ill afford to screw up that alliance with the West. Sure, they can open a financial avenue for Russia, but it isn’t killing SWIFT because China is largely dependent on who uses SWIFT.
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SWIFT is how financial institutions facilitate cross-border transactions, this is done using the Dollar. If China International Payment System is implemented, this would be the same process except using the Yuan. If OPEC ditches the dollar for the Yuan, this would devalue the dollar even more and cause inflation to skyrocket. Russia is now using the CIPS network and trading in Yuan now.
 
Map looks unchanged except for advancement from the south and east.
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severestorm said:
SWIFT is how financial institutions facilitate cross-border transactions, this is done using the Dollar. If China International Payment System is implemented, this would be the same process except using the Yuan. If OPEC ditches the dollar for the Yuan, this would devalue the dollar even more and cause inflation to skyrocket. Russia is now using the CIPS network and trading in Yuan now.
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You’re not getting it. If they devalue the dollar, they’re weakening the spending power of their largest trade alliance. Sure CIPS can be useful for countries currently not benefiting from SWIFT but it isn’t replacing it.
 
Interesting exchange, seems to me there is a remedy to this, the people of Russia need to take the steps needed to finally move towards a true democracy and self rule....

 
Is there anything the average American can do besides hacking to help Ukraine? Maybe we could sticky something for things to boycott and or donate to? Anything else?
 
BirdManDoomW said:
Is there anything the average American can do besides hacking to help Ukraine? Maybe we could sticky something for things to boycott and or donate to? Anything else?
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Nothing that wouldn't be considered a act of aggression I don't think.
 
severestorm said:
SWIFT is how financial institutions facilitate cross-border transactions, this is done using the Dollar. If China International Payment System is implemented, this would be the same process except using the Yuan. If OPEC ditches the dollar for the Yuan, this would devalue the dollar even more and cause inflation to skyrocket. Russia is now using the CIPS network and trading in Yuan now.
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Your original source appeared to say all this could happen regarding a SWIFT alternative. Not that it would.

It’s beneficial to Russia to promote this (if they are) since they don’t want to be kicked out of SWIFT.
 
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