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This is absolutely gut wrenching to watch. It’s as if you’re in middle school watching a 7’8” 25 year old on steroids beat the living crap out of a 3’5” person. I really hope we can organize a force to swiftly put an end to this soon or else civilian casualties will be massive if they aren’t already.
 
Sandbar said:
We are talking hypotheticals here but sure. The B-52 carries an array of weapons including cruise missles. If the united states were fighting this war we could insure a solid hit on that convoy.......Ukraine unfortunately doesn't have this capability
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Ok... I was thinking of the A10 option in my post
 
Philstorm91 said:
In all honesty though, when was the last time any Russian leader traveled to the US, besides the diplomats at the UN?
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Last state visit by Putin was in 2001, but he’s been in the US many times since for various conferences and UN meetings, as recently as 2015. Nevertheless, it’s mostly symbolic and I’d have to think they’d let him come here for a UN visit still.
 
Cadi40 said:
This is absolutely gut wrenching to watch. It’s as if you’re in middle school watching a 7’8” 25 year old on steroids beat the living crap out of a 3’5” person. I really hope we can organize a force to swiftly put an end to this soon or else civilian casualties will be massive if they aren’t already.
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You cant really just attack russia or put ground forces in ukraine that would just be MAD its pretty much why nothing militarily is even being considered
 
superjames1992 said:
Last state visit by Putin was in 2001, but he’s been in the US many times since for various conferences and UN meetings, as recently as 2015. Nevertheless, it’s mostly symbolic and I’d have to think they’d let him come here for a UN visit still.
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Shoot ... I was gonna take him snipe huntin' ...
 
tempo47 said:
You cant really just attack russia or put ground forces in ukraine that would just be MAD its pretty much why nothing militarily is even being considered
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I wasn’t necessarily insinuating that a military force was the only option. There needs to be much more coordination between countries in order to even have a remote chance of stopping this.
 
Cadi40 said:
I wasn’t necessarily insinuating that a military force was the only option. There needs to be much more coordination between countries in order to even having a remote chance of stopping this.
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My personal opinion, might be controversial, is that we need to just not try to encroach on Russia's borders under the guise of NATO. I feel like this war could be instantly stopped if ukraine just claimed some sort of neutrality that insured that
 
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That's what I was saying Putin is a cornered dog right now. Drastic actions may be taken by Putin just hope nothing stupid happens like attacking Poland or another country then your almost calling for NATOs hand to be played
 
Zander98al said:
That's what I was saying Putin is a cornered dog right now. Drastic actions may be taken by Putin just hope nothing stupid happens like attacking Poland or another country then your almost calling for NATOs hand to be played
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I'd almost say Putin is embarrassed and flustered by the lack of dominance by his military
 
Putin is too deep into this. There's no other option but keep pushing the envelope even if they take Ukraine. This isn't gonna magically stop at Ukraine.
 
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I don’t think Putin will stop short of annexing much of the Black Sea coast and turning the rest of Ukraine into a rump puppet state. If he can do that via diplomacy, then fine, but I have a hard time seeing Ukraine agreeing to basically unconditional surrender at this point.

Also, Russia’s past offers for negotiations have all been lies, so I don’t think I believe them now, either.
 
This guy gonna need a new pair of pants.....also some of these were very close and apparently did little damage to his most likely little car.....so I doubt they do much to Ukraine armor....also not sure what military target they were after right there maybe they just randomly attack intersections hoping to catch soft targets moving....

 
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