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Downeastnc said:
To be fair he did qualify it by saying Europe, which if the Russians go full out into Ukraine would be accurate.
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Yep, though it’s hard to see how this would be bigger than the decade long Balkan Wars.
 
YetAnotherRDUGuy said:
Yea, I think the biggest Europe war since 1945 was Yugoslavia breaking up in the 90's. Nasty war locally if I recall, but didn't have as much global importance. Both sides in this one have more firepower obviously.
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It was a war NATO intervened in, as well. Twice.
 
These appear to be US Apaches, part of a scheduled deployment to Germany in the fall which are being relocated to Poland.



www.stripes.com

Army sending aviation, assistance brigades to Europe

The 4th Security Force Assistance Brigade out of Fort Carson, Colo., and the 1st Cavalry Division Combat Aviation Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, will deploy within the next three months to support two different missions spread across Europe, the Army announced Friday.
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Rain Cold said:
Nobody knows anything, but it doesn't stop them from saying anything.
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Sounds similar to wx forecasting. ?

Speaking of wx, models continue to show the next two weeks to be mainly warmer than normal and also they have drier than normal with BN snowfall. I assume that the +NAO/+AO is a big factor in this tranquil pattern. How this tranquility/relative mildness is or isn’t affecting plans is an unknown to me.
 
lexxnchloe said:
They havent invaded yet?
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Aside from small scale incursions, I think the days are over of surprise invasions. We are ~20 years removed from Operation Iraqi Freedom, US Govt used information as a weapon here, to great effect. Public information sharing just adds to it. Twitter, Facebook and the iPhone did not exist when we invaded Iraq in 2003, food for thought.
 
WeatherNC said:
Aside from small scale incursions, I think the days are over of surprise invasions. We are ~20 years removed from Operation Iraqi Freedom, US Govt used information as a weapon here, to great effect. Public information sharing just adds to it. Twitter, Facebook and the iPhone did not exist when we invaded Iraq in 2003, food for thought.
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We have telegraphed what we knew Russia was doing openly and matter of factly and i think that was meant to send the message that Russia wasn't fooling anyone with false flags and reports of withdrawals. USA has shared lots of intel it previously would not have. I think its been a benefit to some degree here.
 
Breaking.

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New intel adds to US fears that Russia is readying for military action

The US has intelligence indicating orders have been sent to Russian commanders to proceed with an attack on Ukraine, according to two US officials and another source familiar with the US intelligence.
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The US has intelligence indicating orders have been sent to Russian commanders to proceed with an attack on Ukraine, according to two US officials and another source familiar with the US intelligence.

The intelligence regarding the order to tactical commanders and intelligence operatives is one of several indicators the US is watching to assess if Russian preparations have entered their final stages for a potential invasion.

Other indicators, such as electronic jamming and widespread cyberattacks, have not yet been observed, according to some of the sources. The sources cautioned that orders can always be withdrawn or that it could be misinformation meant to confuse and mislead the US and allies.

This story is breaking and will be updated.
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If I’m a Russian soldier and this is a big put on by Putin and we get called back, I’m definitely walking up the the border and peeing into Ukraine.
 
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Speed and maneuver are critical in ground warfare, you want to dictate the operational tempo. We are likely seeing the 130’ish BTGs congealing in to larger task forces, each with it’s own set of objectives. If and when the invasion occurs, task forces will be grouped together along thrust axis, my guess is under 10 axis, hence why we are seeing units joining up. The axis are also your supply routes so critical they stay open.
 
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Meanwhile, this. Putin is sowing chaos here, so who knows what to believe.

EDIT: This might just be the same story from earlier, not sure. Regardless, I wouldn’t trust Putin not to agree to a summit days away, and then order an invasion now anyways. Chaos, information warfare.

 
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Storm5 said:
I'm still a firm believer he goes in then a few days later says he will talk. Putin isn't gonna just back down and look like a clown and the US and NATO will never agree to his demands . Scheduling meetings is one thing , getting there is another


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Agreed, I don’t see how he doesn’t invade at this point in at least some limited fashion. I can’t imagine any scenario where Russia backs down now and doesn’t come out the loser from all of this. Putin isn’t going to allow himself to be made to look like a weak fool here.
 
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GaWx said:
Stock futures currently imply a -1 to -2% open.
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I used to use CNN's website back in late 2019/early 2020 to look at futures but just as a FWIW, it's not useful to use unless you really look into it as it can be inaccurate, and it doesn't look fully accurate today.

Yahoo Finance is the place that I would use, but since the market is closed tomorrow, I don't think they're up. They'd have to be looked for.

Anyway, on topic, I was looking for something to happen early this week, but really, if nothing happens by this week, I'll be skeptical about anything at all. I felt as if you may see an announcement that Russia is going to support those in Donbas.
 
GeorgiaGirl said:
I used to use CNN's website back in late 2019/early 2020 to look at futures but just as a FWIW, it's not useful to use unless you really look into it as it can be inaccurate, and it doesn't look fully accurate today.

Yahoo Finance is the place that I would use, but since the market is closed tomorrow, I don't think they're up. They'd have to be looked for.

Anyway, on topic, I was looking for something to happen early this week, but really, if nothing happens by this week, I'll be skeptical about anything at all. I felt as if you may see an announcement that Russia is going to support those in Donbas.
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I don't have a clue what will happen but Putin is an egotistical maniac. He doesn't care about the cost of war or staging a war, financial or life, he doesn't care how the world views him or what other leaders tell him, he only cares about Putin. He loves attention and right now he is in the spotlight on the world stage, dude is just that insane
 
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