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Exactly. And every second this gets dragged out makes Trump more desperate to cut and run. Iran should hold classes on Negotiations



You mean how they publicly say "We aren't coming to negotiate." Only for the guy to pop in and run to friendly countries?

Yep, masterclass. Hahaha

And can we please cut out the "Trump is desperate and is gonna cut and run" nonsense? He actually seems extremely calm which is very, very weird for him.
 
You mean how they publicly say "We aren't coming to negotiate." Only for the guy to pop in and run to friendly countries?

Yep, masterclass. Hahaha

And can we please cut out the "Trump is desperate and is gonna cut and run" nonsense? He actually seems extremely calm which is very, very weird for him.
I second this 100%….your whining and crying about Iran “winning” and Trump is “begging for a deal” is nothing but trolling. It couldn’t be further from the truth, the mods have warned about it….its time for you to give it a rest or a mod to do it for you.
 
The blockade will only work for so long. What do you think happens when China gets involved. They buy 90+% of the oil Iran sells. China will start to hurt badly before too long and they will NOT just sit back and take it. I think they'll start escorting their ships into the strait so they can get Iran's oil out. What do you think Trump will do then? He will back off and end the blockade, because there is no way we can get into a war with them. THAT is how Iran wins this.

The result is Iran's regime survives, they keep their nuclear program, and the strait is closed forever.
 
The blockade will only work for so long. What do you think happens when China gets involved. They buy 90+% of the oil Iran sells. China will start to hurt badly before too long and they will NOT just sit back and take it. I think they'll start escorting their ships into the strait so they can get Iran's oil out. What do you think Trump will do then? He will back off and end the blockade, because there is no way we can get into a war with them. THAT is how Iran wins this.

The result is Iran's regime survives, they keep their nuclear program, and the strait is closed forever.

China is not gonna do squat besides eventually force Iran to the table.
 
Do you really think they'll do nothing? 20% of their oil cut off is huge.

No, they will do something; eventually force Iran to cut their loses and agree to terms. China is not gonna lift a finger militarily to help Iran beyond weapons under the table.
 
No, they will do something; eventually force Iran to cut their loses and agree to terms. China is not gonna lift a finger militarily to help Iran beyond weapons under the table.
They would foolish not to. Iran may not hold too many cards, but China certainly does even without a military move. The biggest of those cards is rare earth metals. If China cuts those off from us, we are in big trouble.
 
Iran’s advantage from waiting this out is that they have an autocracy that doesn’t have to worry about reelection vs the US’ upcoming midterms with the GOP hurting from this war, it getting worse, and GOP facing likelihood of massive losses.
 
Iran’s advantage from waiting this out is that they have an autocracy that doesn’t have to worry about reelection vs the US’ upcoming midterms with the GOP hurting from this war, it getting worse, and GOP facing likelihood of massive losses.

This is true, but historically the majority party has lost the midterms anyways. The difference is Trump isn't gonna be up for reelection. If he wants that "middle-east" peacemaker badge he clearly desires, he will not relent.

Sure, the GOP could try to check him, but that would definitely send their chances down the toilet.
 
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