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GaWx said:
1. Money ($1.7B) was sent to Iran (nobody is debating that), but it wasn’t a gift. It was based on legally settling something going way back to the 1970s as was stated. That’s why the interest was >3 times the principal. Evidently, the settlement could have been much higher per what Iran requested.

2. What you’re saying sounds good and I wish that could have been done, but how would the US have been able to get the $ directly to the citizens opposing the evil mullahs even with them making up the majority of citizens? Don’t you think Obama would have had that done that if it were feasible? Why wouldn’t he?
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That was purely a tongue in cheek statement, about Obama's insincere reason he gave, saying that it was already owed to a regime that never really paid for it. It was just an excuse to help his friends the Islamist terrorist. He knew we didn't owe them that money and he knew they would use it for terror against the U.S. and Israel. Or does anyone think he was that big of a fool?
 
weather nerd said:
this here is wild. he seems like a liar to me. we can add "extends to ceasefire deadline indefinitely" to the end of this chart.

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Truth is Iran has weaponized our economy against us. They know the US citizens don't have the stomach for higher prices and that is to their advantage. Walk away from talks and the oil skyrockets and markets crash . Trump HATES that and they are using it against trump now.
 
weather nerd said:
iran literally said they were not showing up to a meeting to negotiate. trump would have been forced to "follow through" on his threats, and he backed down. that's what it looks like to me.
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I mean it could definitely look like that to you, but the blockade is the far more damaging option. Had he backed down on it, I'd be in agreement with you, but honestly, this just tells me his generals got in his ear.

Why expend more energy and money if you've literally got the enemy by the nuts and their arms are broken. IMO, the blockade should have been placed weeks ago.
 
Arcc said:
I mean it could definitely look like that to you, but the blockade is the far more damaging option. Had he backed down on it, I'd be in agreement with you, but honestly, this just tells me his generals got in his ear.

Why expend more energy and money if you've literally got the enemy by the nuts and their arms are broken. IMO, the blockade should have been placed weeks ago.
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he could just stop looking weak and threatening things he has no intention of doing. it's been his whole process both terms. "bully" people so they listen to what he says. this time around, iran called his bluff and has been sticking to it.

i guess have fun at the gas pumps?
 
Shaggy said:
Truth is Iran has weaponized our economy against us. They know the US citizens don't have the stomach for higher prices and that is to their advantage. Walk away from talks and the oil skyrockets and markets crash . Trump HATES that and they are using it against trump now.
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Dude, the US Navy has the economic engine of a country absolutely shut down. If Iran is weaponizing that, it's like trying to drown your enemy in blood after you cut your own throat.
 
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weather nerd said:
he could just stop looking weak and threatening things he has no intention of doing. it's been his whole process both terms. "bully" people so they listen to what he says. this time around, iran called his bluff and has been sticking to it.

i guess have fun at the gas pumps?
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I mean, I guess he could shut up some, and probably should, but please tell me what more damaging thing other than dropping a nuke could the US be doing?

I'll hang up and listen.
 
Arcc said:
Dude, the US Navy has the economic engine of a country absolutely shut down. If Iran is weaponizing that, it's like trying to drown your enemy in blood after you cut your own throat.
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aside from this never needing to happen at all, now we need regime change. empower the people to take control. it's that simple. that is the only way this ends permanently.
 
weather nerd said:
aside from this never needing to happen at all, now we need regime change. empower the people to take control. it's that simple. that is the only way this ends permanently.
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Then you have to invade, boots on the ground or attack the money and get them fighting among themselves.
 
I’m in support of ending the terror those protesters had to endure, and the threat of nuclear weapons. It’s now Armageddon with them. This fight we have to set precedence who is the bigger threat. No way to end it other than that. If Iran had a plan of having ballistic missles capable of hurting the western world, then we had to act, if not, then this is in vain.
 
lexxnchloe said:
Or Trump will blink and extend the ceasefire which would be a huge victory for Iran
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Trump blinked yet again. I keep hearing from FOX and Trump we won the war. Then why in the Hell are we waiting for IRAN to tell us what they are going to do. String us along and drag this out till Trump caves on everything
 
lexxnchloe said:
Trump blinked yet again. I keep hearing from FOX and Trump we won the war. Then why in the Hell are we waiting for IRAN to tell us what they are going to do. String us along and drag this out till Trump caves on everything
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Obviously if he did what me and you want most on this board would be very upset over the cost of it and the extended fuel costs.
 
Avalanche said:
I’m in support of ending the terror those protesters had to endure, and the threat of nuclear weapons. It’s now Armageddon with them. This fight we have to set precedence who is the bigger threat. No way to end it other than that. If Iran had a plan of having ballistic missles capable of hurting the western world, then we had to act, if not, then this is in vain.
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Its going to be in vain. We are the ones desperate to negotiate.
 
GaWx said:
And more importantly more people killed and wounded as well as more destruction
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45,000 protestors wasnt enough? End it now or Iran will continue planning more murders of Jews, executing opposition, funding terror, and getting a nuke
 
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Avalanche said:
Some people think they’re in “the know”.

Maybe Sandbar can elaborate on this phenomenon…
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I tried but my elaborations aren't worthy of serious discussion :) You won't know what all this is really about until it's really over. AWARENESS is very important here. Things being uncovered and dug up and exposed bring AWARENESS and when awareness increases people start questioning EVERYTHING they have been taught and those types of things start spreading like wildfire. The craziness is just getting started.

I'm not one of the people in the know I just have a unique ability to recognize patterns. Lots of Vets who gave their best years in those BS wars are starting to "see it" now that we aren't in the middle of it. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the show.......
 
lexxnchloe said:
45,000 protestors wasnt enough? End it now or Iran will continue planning more murders of Jews, executing opposition, funding terror, and getting a nuke
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45K protestors was 45K too many. They’re evil to the core. But I wish what you’re saying were that easy!
 
lexxnchloe said:
I called it. I knew he was going to cave yet again. If we won like he says then WE dictate terms and dont wait on them
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I did not think he would cave this time, and I'm not ashamed to admit I was wrong. Now, that he has caved here and not set a deadline tells me this is over and that Iran has very unfortunately won.
 
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