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Folks,
I'm not a Trump fan at all but I'm also certainly not an Obama fan. But I couldn't stop LMAO at this guy, a spot on Obama impersonator repeating some very well-known Trump lines in a serious manner on Bill Maher's show. This is one of the funniest things I've heard in years. I'm putting this out there for pure entertainment rather than to take sides:

 
Well I don't know why I came here tonight,
I got the feeling that something ain't right,
I'm so scared in case I fall off my chair,
And I'm wondering how I'll get down the stairs,
Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the middle with you.
 
So just to play devil's advocate here and to stir the political pot...... :)

I'm no Trump fan (although I personally approve of some of his agenda, getting Gorsuch to the SCOTUS a win imo) and I know Trump is not the best orator by a long shot but what did he do wrong over the weekend? He called out hate groups, sure he said both sides, which is not entirely incorrect. He came out Monday I believe and named the groups by name which obviously wasn't enough... As I recall Obama never called out groups on the left, for example BLM, in fact he invited it's leader to the White House. Shouldn't all violence, all hate groups regardless of their political affiliation or beliefs be called out?
Not to mention I think it's funny that Neo-Nazi groups are somehow "connected" to conservatives, last time I checked they are Hitler supporters (socialist), they despise Jews (similar to radical Islamic terrorist who by the way if you call them that your a racist), they are communist supporters which is the exact opposite of conservatism and I assure you someone will read my comments and thank that I'm sympathizing with the white supremacy groups which I am not.

Oh and while I'm at it why is Nationalism so bad, why has this been connected to racism now.... Nationalist are people of all race, religions, backgrounds, etc that have a love for their country, it's offensive to me as a conservative, white male, that every day I have to hear that conservatives are racist. That somehow or another because I have conservative views I "relate" to the despots of the world that spew hatred and violence such as those white supremacy groups did over the weekend.

All hatred needs to be called out and all violence, no matter the cause, must not be tolerated
 
metwannabe said:
So just to play devil's advocate here and to stir the political pot...... :)

I'm no Trump fan (although I personally approve of some of his agenda, getting Gorsuch to the SCOTUS a win imo) and I know Trump is not the best orator by a long shot but what did he do wrong over the weekend? He called out hate groups, sure he said both sides, which is not entirely incorrect. He came out Monday I believe and named the groups by name which obviously wasn't enough... As I recall Obama never called out groups on the left, for example BLM, in fact he invited it's leader to the White House. Shouldn't all violence, all hate groups regardless of their political affiliation or beliefs be called out?
Not to mention I think it's funny that Neo-Nazi groups are somehow "connected" to conservatives, last time I checked they are Hitler supporters (socialist), they despise Jews (similar to radical Islamic terrorist who by the way if you call them that your a racist), they are communist supporters which is the exact opposite of conservatism and I assure you someone will read my comments and thank that I'm sympathizing with the white supremacy groups which I am not.

Oh and while I'm at it why is Nationalism so bad, why has this been connected to racism now.... Nationalist are people of all race, religions, backgrounds, etc that have a love for their country, it's offensive to me as a conservative, white male, that every day I have to hear that conservatives are racist. That somehow or another because I have conservative views I "relate" to the despots of the world that spew hatred and violence such as those white supremacy groups did over the weekend.

All hatred needs to be called out and all violence, no matter the cause, must not be tolerated
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:p:D:cool:

You and I are about old enough to remember when tension was not hate ... but was somehow positive ... ;)
 
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Trump is here blowing his trumpet for Luther Strange (what a strange name) in Huntsville tonight. Got to see Air Force 1 fly over my house!!
 
metwannabe said:
So just to play devil's advocate here and to stir the political pot...... :)

I'm no Trump fan (although I personally approve of some of his agenda, getting Gorsuch to the SCOTUS a win imo) and I know Trump is not the best orator by a long shot but what did he do wrong over the weekend? He called out hate groups, sure he said both sides, which is not entirely incorrect. He came out Monday I believe and named the groups by name which obviously wasn't enough... As I recall Obama never called out groups on the left, for example BLM, in fact he invited it's leader to the White House. Shouldn't all violence, all hate groups regardless of their political affiliation or beliefs be called out?
Not to mention I think it's funny that Neo-Nazi groups are somehow "connected" to conservatives, last time I checked they are Hitler supporters (socialist), they despise Jews (similar to radical Islamic terrorist who by the way if you call them that your a racist), they are communist supporters which is the exact opposite of conservatism and I assure you someone will read my comments and thank that I'm sympathizing with the white supremacy groups which I am not.

Oh and while I'm at it why is Nationalism so bad, why has this been connected to racism now.... Nationalist are people of all race, religions, backgrounds, etc that have a love for their country, it's offensive to me as a conservative, white male, that every day I have to hear that conservatives are racist. That somehow or another because I have conservative views I "relate" to the despots of the world that spew hatred and violence such as those white supremacy groups did over the weekend.

All hatred needs to be called out and all violence, no matter the cause, must not be tolerated
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Over at the political board for American, I'm constantly called "TeenNazi" along with other insults such as self-hating because I'm a non-white person who dares to voice right-wing and nationalist views.
 
SimeonNC said:
Over at the political board for American, I'm constantly called "TeenNazi" along with other insults such as self-hating because I'm a non-white person who dares to voice right-wing and nationalist views.
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I haven't posted at American in over 2 years and likely will never again. I'm not just talking about the political side. Their wx forum is the only one I've ever decided to completely stop posting at since I started on the Prodigy wx forum in the early 1990s,

I've seen the absolutely nasty treatment you've received in their political forum. The best word to describe that forum: nauseating. If you're not lock step with the heavily dominating ultra liberals there, you're treated like crap. Opposing views aren't tolerated, which means they're hypocritical.

Over there they rightfully speak out about bigotry. Yet, they're bigots, themselves, and therefore, hypocrites. Whites (especially males), older people, younger people like you (calling you an ignorant "kid" or "teenager"...why is that tolerated?), conservatives, Republicans, and even moderates and independents are demonized there as groups. They constantly talk about generalizing being terrible and yet they do just that with regard to the groups they don't support..."white privilege", "mansplaining", etc.! There's one poster there who calls many who oppose her sexists.. Yet, she refers to "mansplaining" all the time and says that it isn't possible to be a sexist against males or a racist against whites because they're "in power". How convenient! Almost everything they talk about regards one's identity. Most of the moderators are biased liberal and don't treat conservatives equally. (I'm moderately conservative overall).

The reason they're dominated by liberals there: a large portion of the members are in the NE US and are Millenials, which are two demographics heavily favoring liberals.

***Edit: Simeon, I added a comment above regarding them picking on you because of you being a teenager. Also, I have nothing against someone just because they're liberal or even socialist. Even I have a few liberal views. And I do have liberal friends and relatives and get along very well. But I do have a lot against someone who's liberal and spews hatred against moderates and conservatives as a group. The same goes for conservatives doing likewise to liberals.
 
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GaWx said:
I haven't posted at American in over 2 years and likely will never again. I'm not just talking about the political side. Their wx forum is the only one I've ever decided to completely stop posting at since I started on the Prodigy wx forum in the early 1990s,

I've seen the absolutely nasty treatment you've received in their political forum. The best word to describe that forum: nauseating. If you're not lock step with the heavily dominating ultra liberals there, you're treated like crap. Opposing views aren't tolerated, which means they're hypocritical.

Over there they rightfully speak out about bigotry. Yet, they're bigots, themselves, and therefore, hypocrites. Whites (especially males), older people, younger people like you (calling you an ignorant "kid" or "teenager"...why is that tolerated?), conservatives, Republicans, and even moderates and independents are demonized there as groups. They constantly talk about generalizing being terrible and yet they do just that with regard to the groups they don't support..."white privilege", "mansplaining", etc.! There's one poster there who calls many who oppose her sexists.. Yet, she refers to "mansplaining" all the time and says that it isn't possible to be a sexist against males or a racist against whites because they're "in power". How convenient! Almost everything they talk about regards one's identity. Most of the moderators are biased liberal and don't treat conservatives equally. (I'm moderately conservative overall).

The reason they're dominated by liberals there: a large portion of the members are in the NE US and are Millenials, which are two demographics heavily favoring liberals.

***Edit: Simeon, I added a comment above regarding them picking on you because of you being a teenager. Also, I have nothing against someone just because they're liberal or even socialist. Even I have a few liberal views. And I do have liberal friends and relatives and get along very well. But I do have a lot against someone who's liberal and spews hatred against moderates and conservatives as a group. The same goes for conservatives doing likewise to liberals.
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Yeah, I don't have any hatred for people just because of their political affiliation. In fact lot of my friends and family members are to the left of me and I don't mind at all.

Also, I was given the "liar" tag and five-posted just because I made a joke post lol.
 
I've heard the political section over on AmWx is not "user friendly" to put it lightly. I've never read or posted in it in all my 6 1/2 years of being a member there. I'm a black, almost 25 year old male Bernie-crat. I have a feeling my political views won't be liked by many over there. lol

It's unfortunate people from all political sides make so much unnecessary noise because there's a lot of policy ideas most Americans actually agree on, but it just gets lost in translation.
 
Weatherlover92 said:
I've heard the political section over on AmWx is not "user friendly" to put it lightly. I've never read or posted in it in all my 6 1/2 years of being a member there. I'm a black, almost 25 year old male Bernie-crat. I have a feeling my political views won't be liked by many over there. lol

It's unfortunate people from all political sides make so much unnecessary noise because there's a lot of policy ideas most Americans actually agree on, but it just gets lost in translation.
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It's just unfortunate that no matter who you are are what your bent is, that some folks want to castigate you ... :(
 
Weatherlover92 said:
I've heard the political section over on AmWx is not "user friendly" to put it lightly. I've never read or posted in it in all my 6 1/2 years of being a member there. I'm a black, almost 25 year old male Bernie-crat. I have a feeling my political views won't be liked by many over there. lol

It's unfortunate people from all political sides make so much unnecessary noise because there's a lot of policy ideas most Americans actually agree on, but it just gets lost in translation.
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They had to break it off itnto it's own thing, lol. It gets rowdy! They're going to end up with a bigger success than their weather forum with it I would assume.
 
Weatherlover92 said:
I've heard the political section over on AmWx is not "user friendly" to put it lightly. I've never read or posted in it in all my 6 1/2 years of being a member there. I'm a black, almost 25 year old male Bernie-crat. I have a feeling my political views won't be liked by many over there. lol

It's unfortunate people from all political sides make so much unnecessary noise because there's a lot of policy ideas most Americans actually agree on, but it just gets lost in translation.
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That's putting it VERY mildly. This was one of the things that made it a huge turnoff for me as it aided in the formation of strong cliques that subtlely oozed there way into the wx section, which made it so easy to stop posting there cold turkey nearly 3 years ago. The staff did little to try to reverse the formation of these cliques. If anything, they encouraged their proliferation!

Speaking of agreement, RIP Barbara Bush! She was loved by many folks of both major parties.
 
I'm a lefty, and banned from there... put that in your sock and smoke it.. lol
 
Q to Admins: can I start a Death Penalty thread.. or should that discussion be placed in this 'all encompassing one' here?
 
whamby said:
Q to Admins: can I start a Death Penalty thread.. or should that discussion be placed in this 'all encompassing one' here?
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Personally I say just roll with it in here, some would certainly argue it's political and besides no chance of it getting "lost" in here since there is so little traffic in this thread.
 
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