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Wintry Machine Learning Mauler 1/30-2/1

GSP is buying it

Small possibility of snow next weekend with development
of coastal low pressure to our east or southeast. If snow were to
fall, it could easily reintroduce or worsen travel impacts due to
the cold temperatures prior to onset.

Upper low associated with polar vortex wobbles into the Atlantic
late Friday or Saturday. Models generally agree that a well
developed shortwave will encircle the low and swing across the
forecast area in that timeframe. A few ensemble members depict a
compact low pressure system spinning up near the SE US coast via
the shortwave, with vertical profiles over our area remaining very
cold due to the deep cold air which will have settled in behind
the fronts earlier in the week. The depicted position of the sfc
low could position the precip shield for us to see light snowfall
develop over the Piedmont. There appears a somewhat stronger signal
that the shortwave will produce light NW Flow snow as it passes
the mountains, and/or for some light snow to be carried east of
the mountains without a surface low forming, though snow east of
the mountains in that scenario is often overforecast. As a nod to
both possibilities, we end up with a slight chance of snow over
much of the CWA Saturday and over some of our far southeast zones
Saturday night. Given that most of the area will rise only slightly
above freezing Saturday and in the days prior, light snow would
have a greater than usual chance of sticking and causing a return
of slippery conditions on roads that have been cleared following
the early week event.
 
I tend to lean towards the idea that what was just laid down along the eastern half of the country today will have a substantial impact on on what happens next weekend. And I’m sure modeling tries to account for that but how well can it at this lead..stay tuned
 
Here's NWS RAH...

Next weekend, another system may form over the east coast, bringing
another chance of snow. Models vary greatly in the timing and
strength of the trough and whether a low is able to form or not.
While ensemble data and cluster solutions are showing that snow may
be possible Saturday and Sunday, confidence remains low at this
time.
 
I can't remember when we had a week of high temperatures that didn't reach the forty degree mark at RDU. If we don't reach forty tomorrow,
the odds are good this will happen. Even if the potential snowstorm late next weekend is a bust, the cold in and of itself is noteworthy.
 

During the morning of March 2, snow was falling across Alabama, Georgia, north Florida, eastern Tennessee, South Carolina, North Carolina, and southern Virginia. The precipitation in Eastern North Carolina started as sleet around noon on March 1, creating icy roads. It was during the afternoon and evening on the 2nd, when the very heavy snowfall occurred across eastern North Carolina as the surface low rapidly strengthened offshore to 999 mb by 00Z March 3. At 250 mb, eastern North Carolina was in the area in the right rear entrance region of a jet streak across the northeast, and also in the left front exit region of the jet streak across Florida (Figure 7). This maximized lift over the region with a large area of strong 250 mb divergence (Figure 8). This strong upper divergence corresponded well with the heaviest snowfall amounts. As the surface low continued to move away from the area late on March 2 into early March 3, it “bombed”, creating sufficient instability to produce rare “thunder snow” over the Outer Banks. Gusty winds also accompanied the storm with blizzard like conditions observed. Wind gusts in excess of 60 mph caused not only snow drifts up to 8 feet, but also very cold wind chills.
 
This could end up being like March 1980

I remember fondly the March 2, 1980 snowstorm well. Highs did not get out of the teens that day and I measured 15 inches of snow when I was living just east of Raleigh. The snowdrifts were over my waist in places.
 
Idk… I am worried for Alabama. It seems super suppressed and lacking moisture.. what needs to happen for the moisture to “bloom” over Alabama? Would less suppression also move the moisture?
Dec 2017 looked identical at 120hr+. Trust the NW trend, esp in this setup (miller A)
 
not an alabama storm this go round, sorry
So now all the sudden you can predict what will happen one week out? Lol what changed between this weekend storm and now? A week out on the last storm, you guys thought it was gonna be a historical snow storm just to end up losing it to the north. I asked what would have to happen for Alabama to become involved
 
It truly wouldn’t shock me if we tried to pinch something off. I mean that just happened with this storm in the northern plains with this last system, peice of TPV energy pinched off. It screwed us last time, but in this situation it would be beneficial. It wouldn’t shock me either because with strong -NAOs, wavelengths typically like to shorten and slow IMG_3384.gif
 
So now all the sudden you can predict what will happen one week out? Lol what changed between this weekend storm and now? A week out on the last storm, you guys thought it was gonna be a historical snow storm just to end up losing it to the north. I asked what would have to happen for Alabama to become involved

I do think it's strange for a meteorologist to make definitive statements like that 5-6 days out especially after what we just saw with this last storm. While it does look like Alabama is not currently favored based on modeling, I don't think anyone should say anyone is 100% out of the game yet or "it's not their storm".
 
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