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Wintry Machine Learning Mauler 1/30-2/1

Looks like the Op Euro is delayed…
Best to keep the bad news at bay for a little longer (I would assume it will shift in line with its AI counterpart, but who knows).

And to be clear the AIFS is warning criteria snow for most of NC, so it’s really a great run, but we are shooting for the stars here now. 😂
 
Best to keep the bad news at bay for a little longer (I would assume it will shift in line with its AI counterpart, but who knows).

And to be clear the AIFS is warning criteria snow for most of NC, so it’s really a great run, but we are shooting for the stars here now.

Can you show the run I don’t have access to it please


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Fwiw, I just told my family in NC to prepare for up to a foot of snow, even tho i also told them the most likely outcome is probably several inches or so right now.

Could easily be a whole lot less but I’d rather be over than underprepared. This is one of those storms where you could literally be snowed in for days because nc has bad infrastructure for dealing with snow lol. And everyone is gonna flip out tomorrow and rush the grocery stores when they see those snow maps on TV with big numbers

Does this seem like a

“6-10 with Localized 12” or more “ TV forecast ? For WRAL / Triangle?

Charlotte - 3-6” Localized 6+


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I never dreamed I would see any model forecast 48 hours away from a potential storm with over two feet of snow over Wake County. It's the GFS but it is uncharted ground none the less.
I’ve seen it before but never with temps/warm nose not being an issue
 
Can you show the run I don’t have access to it please


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This is 10:1, so you can probably times it by 1.5-2x. So you're looking at 6-8" in the Charlotte area, 4-6" in the Triad, and 3-5" in the Triangle. Not bad, not historic. Really good down deep into SC, though (CAE!). And another generational storm for the OBX.

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If I’m Atlanta and I like snow, I’m optimistic here. This is going to be a dynamic event. A shift in wind here or there as this thing comes together from 3 seperate directions off the Carolina coast is going to make it snow in a lot of places along the edge of the forecast area
I'm a lot more confident on snow where i'm at/ne ga than atlanta. But one would think if a track like the canadian panned out with the upper low core near freaking columbus to savannah, north ga would get hit really good. The other models aren't bad either..one would think some nice meso effects would cause locally really good totals. But As gulf low said though, it would be nice if just once atlanta/georgia as a whole was in the heart of one instead of watching huge ones in every direction. It's nice to get a couple of inches but even thats brutal to take if the entire eastern half of the carolinas get a foot plus. They always either amp too early or amp too late. it's wild honestly.
 
Western carolinas holding steady

Yeah the floor for this event out over the western Piedmont from about Charlotte and points west into the upstate is higher because of the upper low and possible mesolow that develops in SC. Good chance of at least a moderate sized event even with some synoptic tweaks.

From RDU and points east it’s much more dicey. Those folks really need the coastal to go 🦍 💩
 
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My favorite snowstorm of all time! I remember walking in the woods in the snow and temperatures in the teens on the small farm in Wake County I grew up on beholding at all. I've got a little stretch of woods behind my current residence. I might have to see if I can bring back some good memories.
 
So with the euro delay that means someone in say Arizona is looking for their modeled weather is waiting too? All because of the SE storm data loads?
 
This is 10:1, so you can probably times it by 1.5-2x. So you're looking at 6-8" in the Charlotte area, 4-6" in the Triad, and 3-5" in the Triangle. Not bad, not historic. Really good down deep into SC, though (CAE!). And another generational storm for the OBX.

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I would be very happy with 3-5” for the triangle of course I would love more but would be satisfied.


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Does this seem like a

“6-10 with Localized 12” or more “ TV forecast ? For WRAL / Triangle?

Charlotte - 3-6” Localized 6+


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I just saw ABC11 they said 70-90% chance of major impact from this storm for most in Central NC and Winter Storm Warning Likely

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12Z Euro looks to still put down a moderate to heavy event for most. No substantial changes in snow footprint so far other than the heaviest axis shifting significantly eastView attachment 190681
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Broadening back west at 12z similar to AIFS
 
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12z CMC ensembles improved from 0z
 
Back and forth we go. Bad trends all day and hopefully bounce back tonight. 12z AIFS ensemble matches the op and dries out more. I think maybe with the ULL being so far south that we are losing some dynamic enhancement?
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Not sure if it's "drying" out per se. But with the weird back and forth we see from the AIFS modeling the off hours and on hours, 18z likely bounces back. It's been something we've seen for the last 6 to 8 cycles now.
 
Back and forth we go. Bad trends all day and hopefully bounce back tonight. 12z AIFS ensemble matches the op and dries out more. I think maybe with the ULL being so far south that we are losing some dynamic enhancement?
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Need an expert here to answer, but looking at the 500mb maps there's very little major movement. Some back and forth tweaks is all I see. Best to stick with a blend for precip forecast.
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Need that ULL as strong and as SW as possible. These things usually have a way of leaking north or northeast and weakening as we approach game day. Just small changes in that will have large ramifications on the pretty snowfall maps.
 
Not sure if it's "drying" out per se. But with the weird back and forth we see from the AIFS modeling the off hours and on hours, 18z likely bounces back. It's been something we've seen for the last 6 to 8 cycles now.
And the only trend I see with that is it is consistently back and forth.
 
Need an expert here to answer, but looking at the 500mb maps there's very little major movement. Some back and forth tweaks is all I see.
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Position is ever so slightly west and the strength look similar, but the tilt looks a tad worse. Small changes, big differences, I guess. No expert disclaimer.
 
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