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Wintry January 3rd-6th, 2018 Winter Storm The ARCC/Xtreme Weather Special

Maybe it's just me, but when GSP gets bullish in their discussion, I will take it serious versus others calling people like Eric out for his early call map when they were too much a b* to release one to begin with.
 
Well it's pretty obvious, all the short range models are going back East. Pretty terrible handling by all models with this thing.. Makes everyone look bad. Wow.
 
Maybe it's just me, but when GSP gets bullish in their discussion, I will take it serious versus others calling people like Eric out for his early call map when they were too much a b* to release one to begin with.
I agree with you Shawn, when GSP gets bullish, it's telling to say the least, being as conservative as they are generally.
 
Well it's pretty obvious, all the short range models are going back East. Pretty terrible handling by all models with this thing.. Makes everyone look bad. Wow.

"modeling".
 
This thread goes from being super jacked up to super depressing in about a 30 minute time frame. man oh man...
 
But yall are right, personally, I'm done with the models. Radar watching from here on out.
 
This thread goes from being super jacked up to super depressing in about a 30 minute time frame. man oh man...
It's crazy. An hour ago everything pointed to the precip being further west because the system was going negative tilt sooner. But the models still show the precip being further east, but the placement of the low doesn't match up with where it actually is. Hard to know what will really happen.
 
NWS is driving me to drink, I believe I need to watch the sky, went from 30% to 20% for today now 30% today and 20% tonight. If anyone can give me a clue for this area it would be great. Please remove if I am in the wrong area. Thank you
 
It's crazy. An hour ago everything pointed to the precip being further west because the system was going negative tilt sooner. But the models still show the precip being further east, but the placement of the low doesn't match up with where it actually is. Hard to know what will really happen.

The Nam, just like every model has the dual low idea. Unfortunately, it takes the low that's closest to the coast, diminishes it and the low farther offshore takes over. Every model is showing this. It's hard to believe they can all be wrong at this stage. I guess they can, but it's getting harder to believe. It's just like those Miller Bs that reform and dry slot us. That's not exactly what's happening here (in modelland), but the effect is the same. Precip min inland as the new low takes over offshore.

I'd like to believe that the models are just clueless, but I'm starting to think they are not.
 
I get that, but do we trust the NAM if it has the low placement wrong to begin with, and if things go negative tilt sooner than the NAM shows?
 
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