18z GFS coming on shore in LA as a weak area of Low Pressure!!
Huh??? The gfs hasn't even finished yet18Z GFS ensembles clustered around Mobile
from what, 12Z? how did you get the 18Z ensembles so fast18Z GFS ensembles clustered around Mobile
It's amazing how the GFS and Euro and their ensembles are worlds apart . We are talking landfall Saturday .......
water vapor strongly suggests such a surface low, fwiw ... thanks, Larry!As I assume you've noticed, the key is that the gfs is developing a surface low from the system now near the FL Straits and the Euro isn't. This leads to a weaker system hitting LA instead of a stronger storm further east. Who is right? Some people think a low is forming. Others don't. But if it does form, it may ultimately save the NE GOM coast from a big hit kind of like when Jose saved the SE US from Maria,
WowUh, yeah....this is not good...at least it's just one run so far.
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I say between all modles, MS/Al has best shot, as of now.HWRF just shifted way west to Central Louisiana was east of New Orleans at 12z
Crazy the spread on the models considering it's really not too far off
IMO it is due to the fact that Nate has not really started a motion/vector for the models to get a grasp on. Hence they are all going their various "paths".. A thought with this is to see how each model derives their solutions and compare.Crazy the spread on the models considering it's really not too far off
Precisely ... and having posted that so many times this year, it's great to see someone else on board! ...IMO it is due to the fact that Nate has not really started a motion/vector for the models to get a grasp on. Hence they are all going their various "paths".. A thought with this is to see how each model derives their solutions and compare.
You think gfs is too far west? Maybe not?18z GEFS even further west now![]()
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Until the UKie and Euro or the Ukie or Euro ensembles bend to it, yes.You think gfs is too far west? Maybe not?
Yes, way too far east . but i also think the euro is too far eastYou think gfs is too far west? Maybe not?
Ukmet already made a big west shift at 12z and is now near Mobile. Question is does it stick with that or shift back east . It loves jumping around latelyUntil the UKie and Euro or the Ukie or Euro ensembles bend to it, yes.
I think the Ukie is a good bet right now. If I had to push my chips all in I'd say Pensacola to Mobile. But a lot to iron out in next 48. My stomach gets queezy at the notion of hedging bets for a GFS/CMC camp.Ukmet already made a big west shift at 12z and is now near Mobile. Question is does it stick with that or shift back east . It loves jumping around lately
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Agreed , the post I saw about the ukmet being near Mobile wasn't correct . Looks like it's west of the Euro but closer to Pensacola. So while it was a west shift , it wasn't as a big of a shift as previously thoughtI think the Ukie is a good bet right now. If I had to push my chips all in I'd say Pensacola to Mobile. But a lot to iron out in next 48. My stomach gets queezy at the notion of hedging bets for a GFS/CMC camp.
No doubt. You can clearly see the two campsThe spread is crazy being what 3-4 days till landfall![]()
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I wouldn't say outlier. The NHC track is essentially the cluster to the east. Then you have anothe cluster near S LA. Two camps right now.official track is an outlier now
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I'm in SD's camp, whatever model blanks the Carolinas, with no rain, take it to the bank! So as of now, GFS looks correct, based on that!
I saw outlier, from the 0Z tropical run showing on thereI wouldn't say outlier. The NHC track is essentially the cluster to the east. Then you have anothe cluster near S LA. Two camps right now.
Those are gfs based of course they are gonna be westI saw outlier, from the 0Z tropical run showing on there