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Misc Historic solar cycle minimum coming (1 Viewer)

GaWx

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The spotless streak ended at 24 days due to a very short lived tiny spot part of yesterday. Now it is spotless again and a new streak has started.
 

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There's a lot we have yet to learn about the solar cycle/climate connection. Saying it's pseudo-science is premature imo.
 

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There's a lot we have yet to learn about the solar cycle/climate connection. Saying it's pseudo-science is premature imo.
Definitely true. Science is always changing. What we see as true today could very well not be tomorrow. New things are always being discovered. Also, just because it doesn't seem to be connected based on current information and perspective doesn't mean it shouldn't be studied further and classified as false.
 

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Definitely true. Science is always changing. What we see as true today could very well not be tomorrow. New things are always being discovered. Also, just because it doesn't seem to be connected based on current information and perspective doesn't mean it shouldn't be studied further and classified as false.
Yep, good post.
 

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yeah, if AGW is 'voodoo', solar cycles affecting climate is doodoo.
I have two problems with this graph:
1) It doesn't take lag into account. When there is a sunny day and no front coming through, the average time of the high of the day is several hours after when the sun is highest in the sky. Also, the ocean is warmest about two months after the summer solstice and land is warmest about one month after it. So, the globe won't cool immediately after the solar cycles start weakening. 1950-2000 was the most active 50 year period ("Modern Maximum", a grand maximum) for the sun in at least 400 years and quite possibly in 2000 or more years. Do you think that the globe can instantly cool back down after that? The oceans, which cover over 2/3 of the Earth's surface, store an enormous amount of heat. It is hard to imagine global temperatures turning on a dime and cooling right when the solar cycles start weakening. There has to be a lag and it is likely not short.

2) This chart only goes back to 1850, which is well after the last grand minimum, Dalton. So, it won't show the relationship between grand minima and global temps. If this had gone back at least several hundred more years, it may have painted a different picture.
 

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Sorry, guys.. I was drunk and being a bit troll-y with my comments in this thread... I'll try to argue better in the future.
 

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