Iceagewhereartthou
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1776 Christmas Snow Campaign. Washington led troops in battle against the British. I've read accounts of them marching in snow that was measured in feet around Greenville and the upstate.
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it would be interesting to know what is possible on a long enough timeline. Given some of the improbable weather events that have happened in just the last century, you’d have to think some really bizarre stuff that we’d think is impossible has happened in the 1,000-10,000-year timeframe. A Miami blizzard, maybe?
Not even worthy of banter, but here is the 0z CFS for late Christmas Eve:
Thor
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Tracking Mid Atlantic storms like the good Ole days
WolfpackHomer91
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Solid Windows Open in a Hoodie day here in the Office. 36 and Aesthetic Rain. Call me a moron …. My fav days are below 40, Rain or Cloudy with windows open and a candle burning on the desk.
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WolfpackHomer91
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Also…. Storm the Husky loves it. She sits here all day and just stares out the window. She’s still waiting on the mix but I doubt it happens here in Mooresville
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Book it!
More snow than I've seen in s single event since like 2014
GoDuke
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Man, that phase 8 rain just hits different.
I’m
Brent
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Exactly why I haven't moved further north
I really don't care for extreme cold anyway
it never snows correctly here and we've tried it every year I've been hereAlso February 2021 sucked by the third day. I was begging to go back to work
Of course people ask why they live here in August....
Makeitsnow
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Although the odds are very low in any given year I always ponder could we get one of those once in a few hundred year winter events. Although it's normally laughable on its face there is a non zero chance. And if you add up the odds over the course of your lifetime the odds add up...well I'm still waiting so I feel like each year I have a better shot lol.
C-Money
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I mean I once would’ve thought double digit snowfall totals were borderline impossible in Florida, then we saw 10” of snow fall in parts of the panhandle last winter. So who knows. I suspect on a long enough timeline, some truly crazy stuff has happened.
Brent
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1895 in Louisiana for sure.... Supposedly was 2 feet somewhere
Bigedd09
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Looks like green bean casserole.
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Bigedd09
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what in the hell kind of green bean casserole are you eating
Bigedd09
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I can’t figure out the EURO AI . I feel like it can be a good model but sometimes it’s awful
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its 360 hours out and i highly doubt the mjo is a big factor in its algorithm at this point
I don't eat it. I eat stuff like pizza, chicken tenders, pizza rolls, dino chicken nuggets & boiled hotdogs.
dont forget the boiled hotdog water after
Bigedd09
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WolfpackHomer91
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Maybe you’d get some snow if you’d eat your Vegetables Mitchell
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I really don't eat like that ( I use too ) I eat pretty darn clean now. But the only vegetables I eat is a sweet potato. I don't enjoy eating them though.
GoDuke
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I’d have to agree on the green bean casserole. Fried onions, mushroom soup, green beans. Yeah I been passing on that last few holidays. Just give me some regular green beans. Just meh.
@RainlessSnowless & Grumpy I want to say hang it up. But something just feels like it’s going to happen in a big way this winter to me. That being said if it doesn’t I’ll probably be scarred for winters to come and will never be positive again lol
Trasitional means we can slowly transition them out
I kinda agree. One year snowless is hard, but it happens now. Never thought 2 in a row would happen, until it did! Then surely not a chance in hell of 3! But, then it kinda did. Surely no way it happens again this winter!
To avoid disappointment, don't believe modeling outside of 24 hours for major events.
You cannot rely on your local forecasters anymore, because they want cash via comments/views on their social media.
Follow climatology. If a storm system doesn't match up to your region historically getting a big event, throw the idea away.
For me this is:
- Arctic front has come through and in place
- High pressure providing plenty of cold air
- Storm track no further north than North-Central Florida
- Real strengthening not occurring until well off the SC coast
This is not the same for Upstate/NC. But until I see that for my area, with model consensus, I will always remain pessimistic for a major event of +SN for my back yard.
If you guys just look at the historic storms, not the outliers (like the crusher) you will see that 9/10 times, these models are not lining up with history when they put you under a foot of snow in a marginal setup.
You cannot rely on your local forecasters anymore, because they want cash via comments/views on their social media.
Follow climatology. If a storm system doesn't match up to your region historically getting a big event, throw the idea away.
For me this is:
- Arctic front has come through and in place
- High pressure providing plenty of cold air
- Storm track no further north than North-Central Florida
- Real strengthening not occurring until well off the SC coast
This is not the same for Upstate/NC. But until I see that for my area, with model consensus, I will always remain pessimistic for a major event of +SN for my back yard.
If you guys just look at the historic storms, not the outliers (like the crusher) you will see that 9/10 times, these models are not lining up with history when they put you under a foot of snow in a marginal setup.
I remember my Grandpa talking about the February, 1899 Great Arctic Outbreak that snowed in New Orleans and produced ice floes down the Mississippi River.
Iceagewhereartthou
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There have truly been changes in the snow patterns of the SE. Many of us remember the days when we used to watch snow storms track from TX all the way to the Carolina's. I cannot remember the last one we saw like that; Jan 2011? It used to be that the snow grade was more North and South; ex. North of I40, North of I85, etc. Now it is West to East; almost everything is the mtns of NC/VA and West. With this, we have seen places like Dallas, LA, MS, AL, and even the FL panhandle get more snow than the Carolinas; last year was just the latest example. I remember a few years ago every state in the Union had recorded snowfall except... SC. We really are the new FL when it comes to snowfall. Sure, we can get cold enough; but it never matches up with the precipitation anymore. It has always been a timing issue for us but with the overall patterns we can't get the timing to ever work. I can't help but hope this is cyclical and that we could eventually flip back; but we have to get out of this pattern where the SE ridge seems to dominate. Everything is a cutter or a late bloomer, that gets the coastal areas, but leaves the piedmont out either way. Pretty painful.
SnowNiner
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Nice and cool seasonal, but .....
I'd say a lot of the problem is a lack of a -NAO. I know the PNA is just as important, but most of our cold recently has been EPO driven. And with that we fight a SER or either Vodka cold that suppresses everything and shears out. Its a very fine line. And when they're not suppressed they are late bloomers like you said. That is what usually happens with northern stream garbage as I call it. There is almost no room for error with those. They either dig just right and tilt just right at the right time or you lose. This area needs a -NAO and and active STJ and stout PNA ridge. Unpopular opinion but the La Ninas can take a hike