Overall at this range I’ll take that look I mean at the end of the day we’re always going to have to deal with some sort of warm nose here comes with the territory unfortunately
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Yeah it'll be hard for us to get into the meaty stuff in this setup. Initial moisture surge and upper trough passage would be our only real chance to score. I'd be full of rage but in the end it would snow so you can only be so disappointed
Need help from the nao or the western ridge to be a little more east. We've done well in similar setups this past decade but when not many miles east/west of the western ridge axis or north/south on the amplitude making a huge difference we are going to win some lose some
Stephenb888
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The thing that sucks tho is after big +PNA events like that, we love to retrograde the pacific into a dumpster fire
Here it comes on the gefs 
I’m not holding my breath on this system. The GFS is the only model that agrees on something + it’s 10-12 days out. There’s so much uncertainty that unless we get a wide agreement, then it’s just noise.
The euro probably would have had something past D10 but it likely would have been west/Miller b. Until the initial trough gets ironed out the rest like you said is just noise
ForsythSnow
Moderator
What is consistent is the ensembles showing a strong cold blast. They're strengthening as each run happens on the GEFS. It's just down to energy really.
Big difference in the GFS vs GEFS
Gefs is more shallow with the western ridge, which would probably mean a quicker exit, but a cleaner cold shot
Not bad 
Canadian kind of does a similar thing .. I think what we also need to look for is that initial dump of cold air out ahead of the system .. if we can get that high pressure system stronger than this could be a much bigger CAD deal
Sheesh … if the euro jumps on board .. maybe this could warrant an actual thread soon .. I mean every model cycle were all just going to be glued to this time period 
The pac could be a little better but you cant hate on the TPV/EC trough connection, if we get a better ridge towards B.C/NW territories then we could have a legitimate shot at pushing the TPV further south 
Might be a regional battle on the board incoming. Taller ridge like the op gfs has favors Al/ms/ga/upstate due to SER response. Shorter more w-e ridge like the gefs mean probably favors NC with less SER response. TN and the nc mountains win either way.
You guys play nice over the coming days
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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December to Remember.
Gefs snow totals through 252 think just about all scenarios are covered
